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Message 1034194 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 21:38:50 UTC

In a way this sounds like the construction of a Battleship under the old Washington Treaty, They couldn't exceed this or that and so there were limits, Like It couldn't exceed 35,000 tons and shouldn't have more than 14" guns, Unless some country didn't want to sign the later London Treaty which had an escalator clause built in that allowed for 16" guns. I think no matter how this server is equipped It will be or should be fairly robust and yes I'd love to donate some, But currently I'm mostly broke, So I can only offer verbal support currently.
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Message 1034198 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 21:55:15 UTC - in response to Message 1034190.  

Well, Gary.....
As I don't see that you posted anything about it when making the donation, it was not noted here. Correct me if I am wrong.

Server was playing yo-yo with the A/C then so no previous post.

Also, I'm told, coming from non-setizen at Trader Vic's is a check, amount unknown.

I was wondering about that Gary. Once it happens, we know who to thank.
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Message 1034200 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:08:05 UTC - in response to Message 1034180.  

I don't know who is keeping the tally on this effort
BUT
getting 1T drives vs 2T drives are over $120 a piece difference when it comes to hi speed server SAS type drives that are need

Yes 2T vs 1T drives are a better bang for the buck but $500 will not cover the cost
difference for 12 of the hard drives that are needed

Yes 6/2T are more cost effective than 12/1T for the same total

Maybe there is something not taken into account here
Maybe the raid controller or replacement/spare's cost or what they have

Just don't write it off as taken care of for $500

The $500 would more than cover 8/2T versus 12/1T, an increase in raw storage and decrease in power usage.

But when a 2TB drive fails the RAID recovery takes longer, plus higher replacement cost for a new drive, etc. The project staff has mentioned advantages with larger number of spindles on more than one occasion, too.
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So it would appear that the best option might be to add more 1T drives to maximize raid performance and fill the bays rather than make the 12 drive complement 2T units.

And, Joe......
Your unflagging support of this project not only with your pocketbook but your time as well is viewed with much admiration here.

Hopefully we can get a little more input from those who are making the decisions so we know if our choices are good ones.

I will continue to monitor the thread and will probably tally things up tomorrow morning to give another status report.

Thank you sooooooooooo much to all who have already donated and those who are going to (hint, hint).

We ARE gonna make this happen...
Correct that, we ARE making this happen.
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Message 1034202 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:15:44 UTC

Here is the current tally.

$100 Tim Norton
$500 MarkJ
$200 Helli
$100 Lupo
$400 SciManStev
$100 MSattler
$200 Soft^Spirit
$150 Gary Charpentier


$4,000 Joe Segur, for general purposes
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Message 1034203 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:19:13 UTC - in response to Message 1034202.  
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Here is the current tally.

$100 Tim Norton
$500 MarkJ
$200 Helli
$100 Lupo
$400 SciManStev
$100 MSattler
$200 Soft^Spirit
$150 Gary Charpentier


$4,000 Joe Segur, for general purposes

Ok I did some math and that's $1750 from the contributors above Joe, All the above though is $5750.00 for all contributors.
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Message 1034205 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:32:49 UTC - in response to Message 1034202.  
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Here is the current tally.

$100 Tim Norton
$500 MarkJ
$200 Helli
$100 Lupo
$400 SciManStev
$100 MSattler
$200 Soft^Spirit
$150 Gary Charpentier


$4,000 Joe Segur, for general purposes

Thank you Uli!

So, we have a total of $1750.00 earmarked for upgrades to the existing specs.

I would apply the first $637.00 for the warranty and spares that I started the fund drive with.

That would leave $1113.00 in the pot.

My own feeling is to work on the processor upgrade next, as right now the drive question is a wild card.......upgrade to 2T or more spindles of 1T.

The processor upgrade, as I stated before would give us the following.....
The current processors are 2 Xeon E5620s...
We could upgrade to 2 Xeon E5650s.

Takes us from 8 cores total to 12.
Raises core clock from 2.4GHz to 2.66GHz.
Increases QPI data bus rate from 5.86GT/s to 6.46GT/s.
And raises the RAM speed from 1066MHz to 1333MHz.

Would be a LOT more horsepower under the hood.

That upgrade is $1406.00, which would leave us $293.00 short of that goal, of which I have pledged $50.00 if we meet it. $243.00 left.
Unless MarkJ would not like his donation applied that way and would rather we wait to use his $500.00 when that issue is decided.
MarkJ, please advise your wishes.

So, let's work on the $243.00 whilst we are awaiting MarkJ's response and some additional input on the drive issue from the powers that be.

Meow meow.

EDIT....
Keep in mind that with the warranty upgrade we have 6 years of coverage, during which, I am sure we could not be mucking about upgrading processors at a later date. Hence I believe it is wise to do that upgrade now rather than try to wait out price declines on the processors later.
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Message 1034207 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:38:47 UTC - in response to Message 1034205.  

Here is the current tally.

$100 Tim Norton
$500 MarkJ
$200 Helli
$100 Lupo
$400 SciManStev
$100 MSattler
$200 Soft^Spirit
$150 Gary Charpentier


$4,000 Joe Segur, for general purposes

Thank you Uli!

So, we have a total of $1750.00 earmarked for upgrades to the existing specs.

I would apply the first $637.00 for the warranty and spares that I started the fund drive with.

That would leave $1113.00 in the pot.

My own feeling is to work on the processor upgrade next, as right now the drive question is a wild card.......upgrade to 2T or more spindles of 1T.

The processor upgrade, as I stated before would give us the following.....
The current processors are 2 Xeon E5620s...
We could upgrade to 2 Xeon E5650s.

Takes us from 8 cores total to 12.
Raises core clock from 2.4GHz to 2.66GHz.
Increases QPI data bus rate from 5.86GT/s to 6.46GT/s.
And raises the RAM speed from 1066MHz to 1333MHz.

Would be a LOT more horsepower under the hood.

That upgrade is $1406.00, which would leave us $293.00 short of that goal, of which I have pledged $50.00 if we meet it. $243.00 left.
Unless MarkJ would not like his donation applied that way and would rather we wait to use his $500.00 when that issue is decided.
MarkJ, please advise your wishes.

So, let's work on the $243.00 whilst we are awaiting MarkJ's response and some additional input on the drive issue from the powers that be.

Meow meow.

EDIT....
Keep in mind that with the warranty upgrade we have 6 years of coverage, during which, I am sure we could not be mucking about upgrading processors at a later date. Hence I believe it is wise to do that upgrade now rather than try to wait out price declines on the processors later.

I agree on all the points made here, If It can be done, I'd do It, rather than not.
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Message 1034211 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:48:02 UTC

I so wish I could do more, but my kitty bowl is empty. To me it is almost an addiction to give to SETI, and I get frustrated when I can't. Common,,,, lottery!

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Message 1034215 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:51:02 UTC - in response to Message 1034211.  
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I so wish I could do more, but my kitty bowl is empty. To me it is almost an addiction to give to SETI, and I get frustrated when I can't. Common,,,, lottery!

Steve

No apologies from you, mister. Your donation was mighty fine.
But I know how ya feel....wish I was in a position to contribute at Joe's level as well.

But we all do what we can, and all is appreciated.

So, come on folks.....don't be shy. You don't have to have a c-note to be appreciated in this endeavor.
$10.00, $20.00, $50.00....whatever. We are happy to add it to the total, and it will all count.
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Message 1034217 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:54:19 UTC

Jeff had written
"Except for a couple of minor details, we have decided on the new science database machine. We again want to thank the donors very much for making this purchase possible! We received $9K in donations earmarked for this server. We received another $1K during the donation drive period that was not earmarked. We're calling it $10K donated for the server. The machine we are getting is around $13K with tax and shipping.
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This still appears to me as a 3K shortfall. If that is correct, then we are about $1,250 short of the original quote( not including the 4K.. which I am sure is desperately needed and an amazing donation).

I am all for getting them the best server possible. I do not favor spending more and more funds they do not have. So unless we get confirmation they HAVE the 13K.. I believe we have a bit of a ways to go. But not bad for a bunch of nerds on a saturday.


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Message 1034218 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:57:40 UTC - in response to Message 1034217.  

But not bad for a bunch of nerds on a saturday.


Darn straight, it's not.

Meow meeow!!!
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Message 1034219 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 1034211.  

I so wish I could do more, but my kitty bowl is empty. To me it is almost an addiction to give to SETI, and I get frustrated when I can't. Common,,,, lottery!

Steve


You already did today Steve. Ya did good.
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Message 1034220 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 22:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 1034215.  
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I so wish I could do more, but my kitty bowl is empty. To me it is almost an addiction to give to SETI, and I get frustrated when I can't. Common,,,, lottery!

Steve

No apologies from you, mister. Your donation was mighty fine.
But I know how ya feel....wish I was in a position to contribute at Joe's level as well.

But we all do what we can, and all is appreciated.

So, come on folks.....don't be shy. You don't have to have a c-note to be appreciated in this endeavor.
$10.00, $20.00, $50.00....whatever. We are happy to add it to the total, and it will all count.

If the Mortgage I applied for gets approved by the USDA Rural Development, Sure I could spare $250.00 for Seti@Home, But at the moment I can't even afford some ice cream.

Nerds? What Nerds? I see only Geeks...
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Message 1034226 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 23:05:55 UTC

I am amazed and totaly speechless with what this thread has accomplished. My small donations pale when compared to Joe's and others here. If I were not disabled and forced into early retirement I would certainly be able to contribute much more financial support than I have. Perhaps the lottery will come in for me tonight.

Mark, perhaps you should go into full time fund raising for SETI!
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Message 1034243 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 23:36:58 UTC

We don't want to burn Mark out. It is the impromtu ones, that make it special.
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Message 1034244 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 23:37:11 UTC

Dear John Hansen,

Thank you for your gift of $243.00 via Visa on 09/18/2010.
You gift was assigned to the following areas:

SETI@home - $243.00

Your confirmation number is:
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Message 1034246 - Posted: 18 Sep 2010, 23:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 1034244.  

Dear John Hansen,

Thank you for your gift of $243.00 via Visa on 09/18/2010.
You gift was assigned to the following areas:

SETI@home - $243.00

Your confirmation number is:
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Thank you John!!

We now have the warranty and processor upgrades covered.
Unless MarkJ wants to save his $500.00 for hard drives.

And please do note that I am dealing in donation totals.
I have not forgotten that Berkeley takes a cut before the funds are transferred to the project. But for this fund drive's purposes, I feel this is close enough.
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Message 1034253 - Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 0:03:10 UTC

Thank you for your gift of $1,000.00 via Mastercard on 09/18/2010.
You gift was assigned to the following areas:

SETI@home - $1,000.00

Your confirmation number is:
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Message 1034254 - Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 0:10:22 UTC - in response to Message 1034253.  

Thank you for your gift of $1,000.00 via Mastercard on 09/18/2010.
You gift was assigned to the following areas:

SETI@home - $1,000.00

Your confirmation number is:
63001

Oh wow, Jon.....
Another OMG moment brought to you by yet another generous participant in the Seti adventure.

That brings us to.......drum roll, please........

$2993.00 so far.
This will help towards the drive upgrade, whatever that may be decided is best.

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Message 1034257 - Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 0:17:35 UTC

Oh wait.....this just in.

Squirrel, Tigger II, Bandit, and Purrball have just kept their promise and scratched together their last bits of spare kibble to make their donation.



Thank you for your gift of $50.00 via Visa on 09/18/2010.
You gift was assigned to the following areas:

SETI@home - $50.00

Your confirmation number is:
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Total so far, $3043.00

You folks have been simply inspiring.

Don't stop now......
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