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Message 1029467 - Posted: 29 Aug 2010, 17:07:19 UTC

Met some really neat people last night.. And from what I can remember had a great time. I think I dropped the check off too.


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Message 1029599 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 3:54:48 UTC - in response to Message 1029467.  

Met some really neat people last night.. And from what I can remember had a great time. I think I dropped the check off too.


Lol, you did Janice, there were enough independent witnesses, plus a pic or two.
Also thank you for the additional $100 toward some RAM.

Thank you so much to Steve and Thomas for the additional funds. So far you all have contributed $1,100 towards the needed RAM and of course the $7,000 towards the new server.

Look for more specifics once Pappa get's the info. Plus I secured a promise to get some pics in here, once the order arrives.

You guys and gurl are fantastic.
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Message 1029623 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 6:45:16 UTC

Well Uli the Ram money I picked back up post Raccoon attack (inside joke) but Hopefully I can provide some assistance soon. I did leave a small amount for a non-controlled purpose with someone that might be able to accomplish that purpose.. But it was not an additional seti donation. Just got the 1K to SETI.

So if the 1K arrived safely and it was not a drunken hallucenation.. it is all good.


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Message 1029643 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 10:58:24 UTC

Good morning.

Does anyone know how much RAM is needed at this point? Also need a shipping address.

Take care and have a good day.

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Message 1029790 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 22:11:03 UTC - in response to Message 1029467.  

Met some really neat people last night.. And from what I can remember had a great time. I think I dropped the check off too.




I handed the check and the "coffee upgrade account" to Matt today. Thanks much for coming down our way! We had fun at dinner. Angela's sorry you didn't get to meet the babies.

And many thanks to all the other donors, too. This server is going to help out a lot. Regarding additional RAM, I'll have to ask Matt and Jeff what they can afford at this point. The target was 48 (minimum) to 96 GB.

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Message 1029794 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 22:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 1029790.  

Eric, I'm not sure but it looks like Rich-E is asking how much RAM you need and where he should send it. Or at least as much of it as he can. :-)


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Message 1029797 - Posted: 30 Aug 2010, 22:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 1029790.  

Met some really neat people last night.. And from what I can remember had a great time. I think I dropped the check off too.




I handed the check and the "coffee upgrade account" to Matt today. Thanks much for coming down our way! We had fun at dinner. Angela's sorry you didn't get to meet the babies.

And many thanks to all the other donors, too. This server is going to help out a lot. Regarding additional RAM, I'll have to ask Matt and Jeff what they can afford at this point. The target was 48 (minimum) to 96 GB.

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Finally back to my little corner of the world.. Whee I have working computers(forgot to pack my mouse, so between the oopsie double posts, 1 bar signal, etc... it was almost no computer for me)

I will let everything shake itself out a bit.. including me. It was a great trip, and I like to think I left with a better understanding of some things. Fair warning.. I have more "thoughts". Some times they are useful.. some times they are not.

If the additional ram(overbuild.. it lasts longer) is not already covered.. I will come up with some. If it is covered.. well the list goes on for what is needed... and I will stay tuned. And soon I will figure out how to get the raccoon pictures I did get up in the cafe.
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Message 1029836 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 3:05:48 UTC
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Hello all - I am going to up the ante for the processors that I will donate to the project since there has been such a dilligent effort to make this the best server that it can be. I have two Intel Xeon X5560's (2.8ghz 4 Cores 8 threads) This would be an upgrade over the E5620's I originally had spoke of.

I'm not using them at the moment but I know that they perform perfect because I had them in my home workstation that also ran S@H 24/7. Never been overclocked or otherwise abused and would be a better place to have them instead of my shelf at that office.

Specfications can be found here -->http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=37109

Pappa - PM me if you want them over the E5620's.

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Message 1029849 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 4:00:19 UTC

I am with you Todd, Pappa wake up.
I am the go to girl when it comes to Cash donation issues and pretty clueless about hardware needs. But I can tell you, that the wish list server is about $3,000 under the current donations.
I have secured a promise that pics are will be posted once the new hardware hits the Seti Lab. Maybe the folks will we kind enough to let us know, what else will be needed to totally make this a Seti Volunteer Cruncher/Server etc pp.
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Message 1029854 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 4:21:48 UTC - in response to Message 1029849.  

I am with you Todd, Pappa wake up.
I am the go to girl when it comes to Cash donation issues and pretty clueless about hardware needs. But I can tell you, that the wish list server is about $3,000 under the current donations.
I have secured a promise that pics are will be posted once the new hardware hits the Seti Lab. Maybe the folks will we kind enough to let us know, what else will be needed to totally make this a Seti Volunteer Cruncher/Server etc pp.


Careful .. I told you I get thoughts. Here is another one. I know people
build and retire megacrunchers all the time. And sometimes they get retired
for the simple reason someone built bigger/stronger/faster and they need the room. Potentially if people are willing to donate parts from those.. huge pools of parts could be formed, although most likely GPU heavy. If some of the
server hardware could be reconfigured to run on that it could blow the doors
off of possibility lists. This would not eliminate hardware needs, but it could greatly extend how far cash donations carry.
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Message 1029860 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 4:47:17 UTC

Janice, keep those thought coming, but I think the time has come for some new stuff, not leftovers. You saw the parts department ;)

Now how about the pic I send you. If I don't hear a NO, I might get weak and post it. ROTFLMAO
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Message 1029861 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 4:50:44 UTC

That is the primary reason that I am now offering the X5560's - I upgraded to the X5670's (Hex-Core 2.93Ghz) in my workstation and now these are just taking up space on the shelf. I would like to see them put to good use and there is no question that they would go a long way toward getting us a very powerful server.

The current server does have 24 processors cores but I believe that they are the Dunnington E7450's http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36941 and these are decidedly old technology. The socket 604 platform is long since retired and going beyond the current needs of the project. At the time that they were given to the project I'm sure that they we grateful to receive them because they were the pinnicle of performance at the time. However memory transfer was lacking and that is what is bogging down the server at this point.

Even with less true cores and using Hyperthreading the performance of the X5560's will exceed the current server by a factor of 2 at minimum. Memory transfer will be much much faster and that will facilitate increased performance overall. Right off the bat memory performance will go from 533Mhz to 1066Mhz and an integrated controller in the cpu.

I will be happy to part with them if they can be put to good use for the project.

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Message 1029864 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 5:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 1029860.  

Janice, keep those thought coming, but I think the time has come for some new stuff, not leftovers. You saw the parts department ;)

Now how about the pic I send you. If I don't hear a NO, I might get weak and post it. ROTFLMAO


Yes.. I saw the parts department. It looks like my storage. And a "send all your old stuff to:xxxxx" would be a bad idea. Most cases would not fit in
a relay rack format, and 1,001 other things. But some things may.
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Message 1029867 - Posted: 31 Aug 2010, 5:22:45 UTC - in response to Message 1029861.  

That is the primary reason that I am now offering the X5560's - I upgraded to the X5670's (Hex-Core 2.93Ghz) in my workstation and now these are just taking up space on the shelf. I would like to see them put to good use and there is no question that they would go a long way toward getting us a very powerful server.

The current server does have 24 processors cores but I believe that they are the Dunnington E7450's http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36941 and these are decidedly old technology. The socket 604 platform is long since retired and going beyond the current needs of the project. At the time that they were given to the project I'm sure that they we grateful to receive them because they were the pinnicle of performance at the time. However memory transfer was lacking and that is what is bogging down the server at this point.

Even with less true cores and using Hyperthreading the performance of the X5560's will exceed the current server by a factor of 2 at minimum. Memory transfer will be much much faster and that will facilitate increased performance overall. Right off the bat memory performance will go from 533Mhz to 1066Mhz and an integrated controller in the cpu.

I will be happy to part with them if they can be put to good use for the project.

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Please keep the donations coming.
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Message 1030111 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 2:02:55 UTC

Thank You All for your patience. I was able to catch Eric and have a bit of news.

Rich, you have a PM with the shipping Address. Thank You

Todd as was explained to me, at this time they do not have a Serverboard that they would feel confident in dropping the CPU's into and having them work. As has been stated the Intel Machines are mostly "preproduction." They would prefer they find a good home rather than sit on a shelf. Thank You

I know that a few others have offered various items via the PM button. In some cases you may have gotten a response. In some cases it is burried behind what Eric has to do.

Eric stated that after conversation with Matt and Jeff they have a rough wish list. There are events events currently happening which are ahead of finalizing that list.

Thank You All, for the support.

Lest I forget, Thank You Mark for starting this thread.


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Message 1030112 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 2:23:19 UTC

Thank you for the update Pappa. I sure hope to see some pics soon, when the beast finally arrives at the Lab.
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Message 1030128 - Posted: 2 Sep 2010, 4:19:48 UTC - in response to Message 1030111.  

Pappa, my thought on those CPU's is.. if they are fairly standard then perhaps getting a spare server out of them.. you guys order the board you wish that takes fairly standardized parts.. then open up to the hardware donations to fill it in. A couple of the existing servers are on borrowed time (although some new fans might extend one ;) ) and having one moderately healthy server on the shelf might be an excellent result. dropping newer chips into an older server might not be the best thought to put things like that to use.

So the principle would be buy bare board and appropriate case/power supply. Let us know what parts you want in it, then people can either come up with them out of their own goodie baskets or start sending them, whether new or slightly used.
But JUST the parts you can make good use of.
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Message 1030395 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 8:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 1029849.  
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I am with you Todd, Pappa wake up.
I am the go to girl when it comes to Cash donation issues and pretty clueless about hardware needs. But I can tell you, that the wish list server is about $3,000 under the current donations.
I have secured a promise that pics are will be posted once the new hardware hits the Seti Lab. Maybe the folks will we kind enough to let us know, what else will be needed to totally make this a Seti Volunteer Cruncher/Server etc pp.


I hope this will help towards the goal of the extra needed RAM or whatever you guys see fit to use it for.

I've gone for an early renewal of my green star for the worthwhile cause of this fundraiser.

Thank you for your gift of $1000.00 for the SETI@home via Mastercard on 09/03/2010.

Your confirmation number is: 62764

I hope you manage to get exactly what you need.


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Message 1030402 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 8:23:22 UTC

Excellent Questor! A shinning example of true community leadership for all.

On another note - what is the rough specification for the proposed server? This might be helpful for people to know if they have sources for equipment - this would benefit me at least because I do have access to stuff from Intel that might fit the bill. I already have suggested options for two different pairs of Xeon CPU's but I don't know if these are being considered.

Maybe someone could share their thoughts here so we might be more informed.

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Message 1030403 - Posted: 3 Sep 2010, 8:23:43 UTC

Woohoo, thank you John.
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