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Jeff Cobb ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 122 Credit: 40,367 RAC: 0 ![]() |
We are beta testing a change whereby VLAR WUs are not scheduled onto GPUs. We hope to move this to the main project next week. |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 ![]() |
Thanks for the update Jeff, Claggy |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jan 01 Posts: 649 Credit: 275,335,635 RAC: 597 ![]() ![]() |
This is indeed a good news, thanks Jeff. ![]() Who the hell is General Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?¿ |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 ![]() |
thank you thank you thank you for testing it first!!! :D Janice |
Cruncher-American ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 ![]() ![]() |
We are beta testing a change whereby VLAR WUs are not scheduled onto GPUs. We hope to move this to the main project next week. Excellent! Thank you so much! Good job. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 ![]() |
We are beta testing a change whereby VLAR WUs are not scheduled onto GPUs. We hope to move this to the main project next week. Thank you very much! *thumb up* BTW. Which BOINC version at least is needed for this function? Or is the BOINC version not important? [EDIT: This means 0.12x+ ARs only to GPUs?] ![]() |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 ![]() |
... It's a BOINC server code change. BOINC core client doesn't matter. Edit: Yes, the criteria is at 0.12 AR. Joe |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Excellent!! Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
Wedge009 ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 451 Credit: 431,396,357 RAC: 553 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for this. Just a question about the 0.12 upper AR limit, though. I had a bunch of WUs a short while back that were about 0.18 AR, and they were quite slow on the GPU as well. Well, I suppose even if the limit is hard-coded, it's still better than the current state of allowing VLAR WUs through to the GPU. Soli Deo Gloria |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 ![]() |
thank you thank you thank you for testing it first!!! :D Yes, please test the heck out of it. |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Of course, this change will mean that we non-GPUers' will suffer, won't it? Actually the question is whether we non-GPU hosts will get a fair credit for dealing with the more difficult wu's. Conversely, will there be enough wu's produced to keep the GPUers' happy, because the VLAR bottleneck will essentially vanish? And, finally, does this change have any implication for the AP crunchers? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Of course, this change will mean that we non-GPUers' will suffer, won't it? Doens't it mean that the VLARs will only go to CPUs? That should mean a larger pool of WUs for us non-GPU crunchers to chase. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Of course, this change will mean that we non-GPUers' will suffer, won't it? Actually the question is whether we non-GPU hosts will get a fair credit for dealing with the more difficult wu's. Actually after my calculations VLARs are the best paid WUs on CPU. Here example for my AthlonXP 2000+: - VLAR (< 0.013): about 350 CPU-seconds / 1Cr - AR ~ 0.38: about 365 CPU-seconds / 1Cr - AR ~ 0.4x: about 470 CPU-seconds / 1Cr - VHAR: about 500-700 CPU-seconds / 1Cr ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Woohoo! Send me your VLARS please. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Actually after my calculations VLARs are the best paid WUs on CPU. Here example for my AthlonXP 2000+: Are these figures, really all from your AthlonXP 2000+ , on my Q6600's, it's vice versa. OTOH, I never crunch VHAR's on CPU. Ehh, sorry I didn't pay attention to the credits per seconds, not really interrested in credits, only processing time, credits have a low priority, in my crunching ability/scheme. And you've little influence on the Angle Range of WU's sended to you, maybe this will change if the new AR-Function-Scheduler, is in place and works as it supposed to. Then you would be able to ask only work for CPU (<0.013 AR) or GPU (>0.013 AR). ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Of course, this change will mean that we non-GPUers' will suffer, won't it? Actually the question is whether we non-GPU hosts will get a fair credit for dealing with the more difficult wu's. Seems most of us with GPU's also have CPU's in our machines...Why would you do all the hard work? Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ![]() |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Obviously, I'm addressing the relative amount of work for the host in total. |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Of course, this change will mean that we non-GPUers' will suffer, won't it? Not understanding this reply. There are cpu only and gpu+cpu crunchers. If the VLAR's are blocked from the gpu's, then the non-VLAR wu's will be sopped up by the gpu's, leaving the cpu's with a strongly biased ratio of VLAR's. I suppose it's a sh.ty job, but someone has to do it. |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 ![]() |
BTW. Nice to know that the admins have an opened ear for suggestions of the members for to make better the project (for to get the max performance of all hosts for accelerated science).. Who said this won't work? X-D O.K., now I can switch on again my PC.. :o) ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 ![]() |
Current I can't post some examples of my E7600, because the new Cr.-System isn't finished balanced. But, AFAIK, the VLAR WUs get more Cr./hour on CPU, than normal AR WUs. So CPU only (and of course CPU & GPU) hosts will have increased RAC. This isn't well? ![]() |
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