New outage schedule....

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JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 1009748 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 14:15:58 UTC Is it old habit they have the normal Tuesday morning 3-4 hour outage on the front page? ID: 1009748 ·

Qui-Gon Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11	Message 1009761 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 14:58:04 UTC I'm all out of work and the servers are SNAFU, so it looks like no work until at least Friday. ID: 1009761 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51527 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1009772 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 15:20:49 UTC I think I have enough on most rigs to keep up to speed until the first of the extended outages is over. I can only hope that when the system comes back online things have been untangled enough that the servers can handle the load without crashing right away. And that the Boinc changes have been corrected so the quota works without dropping like a stone any time a simple Cuda WU error occurs. And the DCF thingy doesn't keep whacking one or two of my rigs into thinking a 10 minute Cuda job is gonna take 2 days.......LOL. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1009772 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6662 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1009777 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 15:29:13 UTC - in response to Message 1009772. The other day I was just watching BOINC as it changed the completion times, jumped be high priority and normal, and abandoned wu's that were 99% complete to start a new one. It would do all of this is just a few minutes. Quite comical actually, but I have a feeling a cache is not as big as the number of days says it is. The last time I looked, it had my cuda tasks completing in 45 minutes, rather than the 7 to 10 it actually takes. Times would bounce up and down with me just looking at it. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1009777 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 1009788 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 15:53:21 UTC I hope I have enough but doubt it. The estimated completion times kept me in High Priority mode most of the time limiting downloads. Changed DCF but it would change back when I downloaded so some CPU units showed they could finish in 1:25 while others showed 56:35:24.... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 1009788 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51527 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1009790 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 15:55:31 UTC - in response to Message 1009777. The other day I was just watching BOINC as it changed the completion times, jumped be high priority and normal, and abandoned wu's that were 99% complete to start a new one. It would do all of this is just a few minutes. Quite comical actually, but I have a feeling a cache is not as big as the number of days says it is. The last time I looked, it had my cuda tasks completing in 45 minutes, rather than the 7 to 10 it actually takes. Times would bounce up and down with me just looking at it. Steve That's probably the DCF adjustment thingy I was referring to....which was put into place and then retracted when it was found out how whacko it was. It would be nice if that was worked out during the outage. But we probably won't know until it suddenly appears again and Richard or Joe can comment on how it is working out. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1009790 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1009793 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 16:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 1009790. Last modified: 29 Jun 2010, 16:12:39 UTC I have no SETI WUs to run. I do not know what is happening to me but on a quad processor I get 2 SETI running, along with Rosetta, and no more SETI WUs will download. This is not a new thing. When one of the WUs finishes another will be requested and will download. Which means I will shortly be out of SETI WU to run during the outage. I do nothing to BOINC, just let it run as in the past it always seemed to run. My daily numbers, and that is not just SETI, but totals have been falling for a month now. I can not figure it out as nothing else has changed. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1009793 ·

Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0	Message 1009794 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 16:21:30 UTC - in response to Message 1009790. That's probably the DCF adjustment thingy I was referring to....which was put into place and then retracted when it was found out how whacko it was. It would be nice if that was worked out during the outage. But we probably won't know until it suddenly appears again and Richard or Joe can comment on how it is working out. For all of us running anonymous platform it will have a similar up-front effect as last time it was turned on, getting much more work than requested. After that, it will take at least a day or two on fast hosts to know if they have the averaging working OK. My 200MHz Pentium MMX won't stabilize before late August at best. I agree it would be nice if they can get it worked out during the outage, then most hosts will have recovered before the next week's outage. And if it does a good enough job of fitting estimates to the host app version then it will turn out to have been one of the most helpful BOINC changes in recent times. Joe ID: 1009794 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51527 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1009797 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 16:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 1009794. That's probably the DCF adjustment thingy I was referring to....which was put into place and then retracted when it was found out how whacko it was. It would be nice if that was worked out during the outage. But we probably won't know until it suddenly appears again and Richard or Joe can comment on how it is working out. For all of us running anonymous platform it will have a similar up-front effect as last time it was turned on, getting much more work than requested. After that, it will take at least a day or two on fast hosts to know if they have the averaging working OK. My 200MHz Pentium MMX won't stabilize before late August at best. I agree it would be nice if they can get it worked out during the outage, then most hosts will have recovered before the next week's outage. And if it does a good enough job of fitting estimates to the host app version then it will turn out to have been one of the most helpful BOINC changes in recent times. Joe Joe.... I'm afraid it did not have that effect for me the last time around, because the silly-ass new quota system kept quashing my work requests..... That must be fixed as well.....it is not right to cut the quota back to 100 on a high performing rig just because of a Cuda error here and there. The number of errors has to be reconciled with the amount of valid work returned. 5 errors on a host returning several hundred valid results a day should not be cut back that far, if at all. 5 errors on a host that does 10 WUs a month might mean something different. And the system needs to be able to differentiate between the two situations. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1009797 ·

Qui-Gon Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11	Message 1009830 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 18:19:05 UTC What? No outage this week? It's past 11:00 am in California and everything is still running. The front page messages are just confusing. ID: 1009830 ·

Qui-Gon Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 2940 Credit: 19,199,902 RAC: 11	Message 1009833 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 18:24:13 UTC I haven't tried uploading, because I have nothing to upload, but the status page shows everything running and over 100,000 work units ready to send out. Also, here we are posting in NC, which we could never do during prior outages. ID: 1009833 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51527 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1009834 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 18:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 1009830. Last modified: 29 Jun 2010, 18:31:23 UTC What? No outage this week? It's past 11:00 am in California and everything is still running. The front page messages are just confusing. It's a 'new age' outage....LOL. Last I checked, all uploads were still working for me, but no reporting of results or downloading any new work. Matt had posted that they intend for the forums to stay up and stats exports to continue working...although that doesn't help much if reporting work is not possible. Maybe that is just a temporary thing...who knows? OR maybe it's an outage within an outage. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1009834 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 1009843 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 19:26:38 UTC Weekly Outage Every Tuesday morning (Pacific time) we begin a 3 day data distribution outage to focus on database/server maintenance and internal development. The upload/download servers and some web pages are offline during this time. 29 Jun 2010 19:06:03 UTC ID: 1009843 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 1009850 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 2:39:20 UTC Yea they got us going! Good job. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 1009850 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0	Message 1009856 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 2:53:31 UTC one box will run dry tomorrow here. The slower one might have enough. It is that "new math" keeping me from loading up enough. Ahh well. Janice ID: 1009856 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 1009867 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 3:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 1009856. one box will run dry tomorrow here. The slower one might have enough. It is that "new math" keeping me from loading up enough. Ahh well. Same problem here, their "new math" just doesn't work. I might sqeek thru. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 1009867 ·

[B^S] madmac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Feb 04 Posts: 1175 Credit: 4,754,897 RAC: 0	Message 1009910 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 7:45:51 UTC I am having upload problems, it looks like the have not switched it on so it is mainly a few that are working including the forum ID: 1009910 ·

Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0	Message 1009911 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 8:24:54 UTC Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 8:29:47 UTC guess who came back two days ago and read luckily about the new weekly outage, and forgot to change cache from one day to at least five? yep. ID: 1009911 ·

DJStarfox Send message Joined: 23 May 01 Posts: 1066 Credit: 1,226,053 RAC: 2	Message 1010025 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 15:51:22 UTC - in response to Message 1009504. Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 15:51:40 UTC I can see it now. Server comes back and everyone hits the update button at once. Server goes down for the rest of the week ... If they are going to use the outage time to reconfigure/repair the upload server, then sounds good to me. But if they can leave the upload server up even during part of the outage window, that would really help. ID: 1010025 ·

Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0	Message 1010044 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 18:26:09 UTC - in response to Message 1010025. Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 18:26:49 UTC Ya now all your computers can keep checking if seti@home is there rather than work to see if they can find ET HA HA ID: 1010044 ·

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