If there are problems to fix that require an outage...then i say...bring on the outage!...The science and our WU's will just have to wait...We are invited to participate in this project and will have to wait when necessary when the project has repairs and changes to make...

If you refuse to crunch anything but SETI...then there are times that you will simply be out of luck...Sometimes it pays to have something besides credits on your mind...Diversify and do some other science...for the real reason...Because it's there!

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PROUD TO BE TFFE!

I'm a lurker :)

1) mainly because seti has been around that long, most questions have been asked one way or another, and answered. If no one else asks a question, it's probably my fault. F'rinstance, when my little 8800 GTS started throwing computation errors, I realised I was probably short of card memory, so I removed my desktop backgrounds on my dual monitor setup. Seems to have sorted.

2) It's informative, and frequently entertaining in unexpected ways.

3) My sense of humour is far too sarcastic and ironic, and would get me into no end of bother :)

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Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on serversite 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on serversite 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

LOL....
Helli, you are elaborating on the scenario I worried about in my first post when I started this thread.....



"I can see the worst case.....
Outage Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday....
Come back up on Friday....bandwidth maxed out with rigs trying to report 3 days worth of work and trying to replenish depleted caches....
Servers crash Saturday, nothing available until Monday morning...bandwidth maxed out again.

Lather, rinse, repeat."


The hope is that they will have had enough time to sort things on the servers somewhat and they may come back up in a healthier state than when the outage started.

I have my doubts, but I have told all of the kitties to wear their ruby slippers tonight and tomorrow.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

If you're worried about your uploads, imagine what I have stored up here......

I am hoping for the best, but prepared for the worst.

And will carry on for the project the best I can, in any case.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

Hey Helli, I was about to propose that Dexter's laboratory should take over the project. I believe that your Quadraplex T-3000 is up to the challenge :-)

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Who the hell is General Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?¿

If everyone keeps their sticky little fingers off the "update" and the "retry now" buttons things might go through a bit smoother. Most of us have built up a pretty hefty backoff by now. If we just let the BM ask for work when it is ready we should be pretty well spread out and hopefully there will be enough work built up to get us back in the game.

Oh, and by the way, I finally finished my last WU so you can open up the gates any time now!! :-)

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Hey Helli, I was about to propose that Dexter's laboratory should take over the project. I believe that your Quadraplex T-3000 is up to the challenge :-)
...

hehe :-)

Yes, Dex's Lab would easily handle the Load.

LOL

Helli

If everyone keeps their sticky little fingers off the "update" and the "retry now" buttons things might go through a bit smoother. Most of us have built up a pretty hefty backoff by now. If we just let the BM ask for work when it is ready we should be pretty well spread out and hopefully there will be enough work built up to get us back in the game.

Oh, and by the way, I finally finished my last WU so you can open up the gates any time now!! :-)

I set the schedule on the network activity for the same period as the planned outage. That way I don't get thousands of error messages. However this mean that I will have 20 machines all pounding at the door at the same time until each machine starts it backoff.

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Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on serversite 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

LOL....
Helli, you are elaborating on the scenario I worried about in my first post when I started this thread.....
"I can see the worst case.....
Outage Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday....
Come back up on Friday....bandwidth maxed out with rigs trying to report 3 days worth of work and trying to replenish depleted caches....
Servers crash Saturday, nothing available until Monday morning...bandwidth maxed out again.

Lather, rinse, repeat."

The hope is that they will have had enough time to sort things on the servers somewhat and they may come back up in a healthier state than when the outage started.

I have my doubts, but I have told all of the kitties to wear their ruby slippers tonight and tomorrow.

Y'all are forgetting something.....

It's a holiday weekend in the US.

Holiday weekends are bad juju for S@H servers. Get out the beads, dolls, Gris Gris Bags, Potion Oils, Candles & Ritual Kits....

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Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

i was really hoping they where not going to take down the upload server for that very reason. the slow machines who get all the work.

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Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on server site 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorrow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

this is a given, but i did notice one problem. day 7 is a holiday, no staff in lab!

And I just adopted a BLACK Cat... Mwuhahaha

Seriously, I did.

nobody adopts a cat; they adopt you, and you are their servant!

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And I just adopted a BLACK Cat... Mwuhahaha

Seriously, I did.

Pics are required in a kitty thread in the Cafe.....

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Would be interesting to know outage time in UTC cause here friday morning already and no signs of life still :)

@Raistmer I think they were talking about 9 Am PST or so.

@To the kitty lovers, stay on topic please.

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Pluto will always be a planet to me.

Seti Ambassador
Not to late to order an Anni Shirt

What's the Seti outage schedule on other planets?

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Rig name: "x6Crunchy"
OS: Win 7 x64
MB: Asus M4N98TD EVO
CPU: AMD X6 1055T 2.8(1,2v)
GPU: 2x Asus GTX560ti
Member of: Dutch Power Cows

my farm already run out of wu~:(

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a 3 day outage every week will only encourage people to run deeper queues ... now weren't people complaining about that before ...

i have 1 box dry already and another one about to go dry ... get ready for the *&^% fight that's about to happen for WUs and bandwidth ... and lets not forget about wu limiting ... more WUs further out means that peoples daily limits are going to fall ... i can hear the screams now ...

prediction: this is going to turn into a really big ugly mess....

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The funny part is that things will work themselves out. Users will adjust and WU's will get to You and Results will be returned.

Regards

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