Has the Boinc version unleashed upon Seti been released for updating by other Boinc projects? And if so, has it caused the gnashing of teeth elsewhere too?

Or was it just foisted upon us here until it works correctly?

Perhaps. I used to often have 15 to 20 MilkyWay WUs at a time in my queue, and often downloaded a dozen or more at a time on my daily update request. But recently got a message like "maximum of 12 tasks allowed", and then received 2 new WUs. Now I have 2 to 4 MW max in my queue at any one time, get a new one or two when I complete and upload one or two (this happens several times a day, all by itself). Just like SETI has been doing to me recently.

No gnashing of teeth here, or in their Forums.

Milkyway has it set so you can have 6 WU per CPU core, this is done to relieve the stress on the server. My Quad can have 24 WU at a time, an I7 with hyperthreading can have 48 (that is also the max).

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Milkyway has it set so you can have 6 WU per CPU core, this is done to relieve the stress on the server. My Quad can have 24 WU at a time, an I7 with hyperthreading can have 48 (that is also the max).

1. Is this recent? A few weeks ago I often had 15 to 20 WUs on my 2 core machine.

2. Maybe S@H should try this to relive the stress on their servers.

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Nope, it has been in place for at least a year.

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guess who came back two days ago and read luckily about the new weekly outage, and forgot to change cache from one day to at least five?
yep.

ME?

you too? wonderful.

Amazing how many people this outage brought out of lurking mode. Seems in the news thread there are lots of people with a post or 2.....

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Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

Amazing how many people this outage brought out of lurking mode. Seems in the news thread there are lots of people with a post or 2.....

I sometimes wish that users' account pages showed how many posts they have read..... (forum by forum)

(and I don't mean how many posts their browser has accessed, LOL)

1. Is this recent? A few weeks ago I often had 15 to 20 WUs on my 2 core machine.

2. Maybe S@H should try this to relive the stress on their servers.

The 6 unit per core limit is in place at least since I started using my GPU for MilkyWay and that was 18 months ago.
A side effect is that every finished unit is reported immediately by Boinc to keep the buffer filled and I'm not sure whether that would help relieving the stress on the S@h servers...

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Amazing how many people this outage brought out of lurking mode. Seems in the news thread there are lots of people with a post or 2.....

i came back after almost year away on monday, had little too much time to be aware new things here.
changes, i hate changes.

Everyone has to start somewhare. Those of you who have been posting nonstop for years, at one time were posting virgins. There was something that caught your fancy and caused you to write your very first post. Most people prefer to keep their thoughts private most of the time.

If there are problems to fix that require an outage...then i say...bring on the outage!...The science and our WU's will just have to wait...We are invited to participate in this project and will have to wait when necessary when the project has repairs and changes to make...

If you refuse to crunch anything but SETI...then there are times that you will simply be out of luck...Sometimes it pays to have something besides credits on your mind...Diversify and do some other science...for the real reason...Because it's there!

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PROUD TO BE TFFE!

I'm a lurker :)

1) mainly because seti has been around that long, most questions have been asked one way or another, and answered. If no one else asks a question, it's probably my fault. F'rinstance, when my little 8800 GTS started throwing computation errors, I realised I was probably short of card memory, so I removed my desktop backgrounds on my dual monitor setup. Seems to have sorted.

2) It's informative, and frequently entertaining in unexpected ways.

3) My sense of humour is far too sarcastic and ironic, and would get me into no end of bother :)

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Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on serversite 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on serversite 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

LOL....
Helli, you are elaborating on the scenario I worried about in my first post when I started this thread.....



"I can see the worst case.....
Outage Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday....
Come back up on Friday....bandwidth maxed out with rigs trying to report 3 days worth of work and trying to replenish depleted caches....
Servers crash Saturday, nothing available until Monday morning...bandwidth maxed out again.

Lather, rinse, repeat."


The hope is that they will have had enough time to sort things on the servers somewhat and they may come back up in a healthier state than when the outage started.

I have my doubts, but I have told all of the kitties to wear their ruby slippers tonight and tomorrow.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

If you're worried about your uploads, imagine what I have stored up here......

I am hoping for the best, but prepared for the worst.

And will carry on for the project the best I can, in any case.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Well, I believe it will run in such way:

Day 1: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 2: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 3: Project is down, no upload or download
Day 4: The Gates are open, 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 50,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 5: The Line is slow because 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) try to upload their results and fill their Caches
Day 6: Something crashes on serversite 175,000 User with 270,000 Hosts (and 45,000,000 Results) cannot upload their results or fill their Caches
Day 7: Staff in Lab, asks themselves if they should repair the system now - or tomorow because --> go to Day 1.

hehe :-)

Helli

LOL....
Helli, you are elaborating on the scenario I worried about in my first post when I started this thread.....



"I can see the worst case.....
Outage Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday....
Come back up on Friday....bandwidth maxed out with rigs trying to report 3 days worth of work and trying to replenish depleted caches....
Servers crash Saturday, nothing available until Monday morning...bandwidth maxed out again.

Lather, rinse, repeat."


The hope is that they will have had enough time to sort things on the servers somewhat and they may come back up in a healthier state than when the outage started.

I have my doubts, but I have told all of the kitties to wear their ruby slippers tonight and tomorrow.

I have a bucket of Water ready to toss at a wicked Witch(aka: Witch Solvent). ;)

Hopefully this won't happen with Seti...

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Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST

Yes, reads itself funny. But it isn't. I believe i will not able to download 4,000 Workunits to refill my Cache
because i have to upload my Results first, and the Splitters will not be fast enough to handle the massive requests.

Helli

Hey Helli, I was about to propose that Dexter's laboratory should take over the project. I believe that your Quadraplex T-3000 is up to the challenge :-)

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Who the hell is General Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?¿

If everyone keeps their sticky little fingers off the "update" and the "retry now" buttons things might go through a bit smoother. Most of us have built up a pretty hefty backoff by now. If we just let the BM ask for work when it is ready we should be pretty well spread out and hopefully there will be enough work built up to get us back in the game.

Oh, and by the way, I finally finished my last WU so you can open up the gates any time now!! :-)

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Hey Helli, I was about to propose that Dexter's laboratory should take over the project. I believe that your Quadraplex T-3000 is up to the challenge :-)
...

hehe :-)

Yes, Dex's Lab would easily handle the Load.

LOL

Helli

If everyone keeps their sticky little fingers off the "update" and the "retry now" buttons things might go through a bit smoother. Most of us have built up a pretty hefty backoff by now. If we just let the BM ask for work when it is ready we should be pretty well spread out and hopefully there will be enough work built up to get us back in the game.

Oh, and by the way, I finally finished my last WU so you can open up the gates any time now!! :-)

I set the schedule on the network activity for the same period as the planned outage. That way I don't get thousands of error messages. However this mean that I will have 20 machines all pounding at the door at the same time until each machine starts it backoff.

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