New outage schedule....

Author	Message
kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1009834 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 18:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 1009830. Last modified: 29 Jun 2010, 18:31:23 UTC What? No outage this week? It's past 11:00 am in California and everything is still running. The front page messages are just confusing. It's a 'new age' outage....LOL. Last I checked, all uploads were still working for me, but no reporting of results or downloading any new work. Matt had posted that they intend for the forums to stay up and stats exports to continue working...although that doesn't help much if reporting work is not possible. Maybe that is just a temporary thing...who knows? OR maybe it's an outage within an outage. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1009834 ·

JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 1009843 - Posted: 29 Jun 2010, 19:26:38 UTC Weekly Outage Every Tuesday morning (Pacific time) we begin a 3 day data distribution outage to focus on database/server maintenance and internal development. The upload/download servers and some web pages are offline during this time. 29 Jun 2010 19:06:03 UTC ID: 1009843 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 1009850 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 2:39:20 UTC Yea they got us going! Good job. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 1009850 ·

soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0	Message 1009856 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 2:53:31 UTC one box will run dry tomorrow here. The slower one might have enough. It is that "new math" keeping me from loading up enough. Ahh well. Janice ID: 1009856 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 1009867 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 3:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 1009856. one box will run dry tomorrow here. The slower one might have enough. It is that "new math" keeping me from loading up enough. Ahh well. Same problem here, their "new math" just doesn't work. I might sqeek thru. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 1009867 ·

[B^S] madmac Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Feb 04 Posts: 1175 Credit: 4,754,897 RAC: 0	Message 1009910 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 7:45:51 UTC I am having upload problems, it looks like the have not switched it on so it is mainly a few that are working including the forum ID: 1009910 ·

Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0	Message 1009911 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 8:24:54 UTC Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 8:29:47 UTC guess who came back two days ago and read luckily about the new weekly outage, and forgot to change cache from one day to at least five? yep. ID: 1009911 ·

DJStarfox Send message Joined: 23 May 01 Posts: 1066 Credit: 1,226,053 RAC: 2	Message 1010025 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 15:51:22 UTC - in response to Message 1009504. Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 15:51:40 UTC I can see it now. Server comes back and everyone hits the update button at once. Server goes down for the rest of the week ... If they are going to use the outage time to reconfigure/repair the upload server, then sounds good to me. But if they can leave the upload server up even during part of the outage window, that would really help. ID: 1010025 ·

Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0	Message 1010044 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 18:26:09 UTC - in response to Message 1010025. Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 18:26:49 UTC Ya now all your computers can keep checking if seti@home is there rather than work to see if they can find ET HA HA ID: 1010044 ·

Dena Wiltsie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26	Message 1010048 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 18:41:57 UTC - in response to Message 1009911. guess who came back two days ago and read luckily about the new weekly outage, and forgot to change cache from one day to at least five? yep. I came back from a week vacation and didn't see the message till after the server went down on tuesday. I had less than half a days work when I should have had a full day and I am now on empty. I shut down Boinc when I am on vacation so the UPS will keep the system up longer if the power fails. Oh my aching RAC. At least World Community Grid is still up. ID: 1010048 ·

SciManStev Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6658 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0	Message 1010052 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 18:58:01 UTC - in response to Message 1010048. I came back from a week vacation and didn't see the message till after the server went down on tuesday. I had less than half a days work when I should have had a full day and I am now on empty. I shut down Boinc when I am on vacation so the UPS will keep the system up longer if the power fails. Oh my aching RAC. At least World Community Grid is still up. I hope you had a great vacation! Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1010052 ·

Dave Cummings Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 May 09 Posts: 219 Credit: 1,193,729 RAC: 0	Message 1010100 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 21:19:17 UTC - in response to Message 1009911. guess who came back two days ago and read luckily about the new weekly outage, and forgot to change cache from one day to at least five? yep. ME? ID: 1010100 ·

gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0	Message 1010103 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 21:27:09 UTC Ran my cache down to get rid of all the vlar's that needed to be done on CPU. Set to 'Allow new tasks' once the system was almost clear and have managed to snag ONE WHOLE GPU unit since. That took a whole 9 minutes to run, and I've been without work on this machine since... Other machine has got work, but I'm beginning to think Seti doesn't want/need my help any more... Never crunched anything else, and not sure I wanna start. Bit pissed off with it... Giz. *A proud GPU User Server Donor!* ID: 1010103 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1010109 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 21:34:29 UTC - in response to Message 1010103. Ran my cache down to get rid of all the vlar's that needed to be done on CPU. Set to 'Allow new tasks' once the system was almost clear and have managed to snag ONE WHOLE GPU unit since. That took a whole 9 minutes to run, and I've been without work on this machine since... Other machine has got work, but I'm beginning to think Seti doesn't want/need my help any more... Never crunched anything else, and not sure I wanna start. Bit pissed off with it... Giz. Seti needs YOU....and me, and everybody else. Let's just wait and see what happens when they turn the spigot back on Friday. If certain issues have not been addressed, I'll be right here commenting about it. But I am not about to give up. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1010109 ·

bloodrain Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 8 Dec 08 Posts: 231 Credit: 28,112,547 RAC: 1	Message 1010131 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 22:46:06 UTC - in response to Message 1010109. overall this does suck but. BOINC software is being used by alot of people now other then seti crunching ID: 1010131 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1010132 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 22:50:20 UTC - in response to Message 1010131. overall this does suck but. BOINC software is being used by alot of people now other then seti crunching Yes it is.... Which brings up an interesting question...... Has the Boinc version unleashed upon Seti been released for updating by other Boinc projects? And if so, has it caused the gnashing of teeth elsewhere too? Or was it just foisted upon us here until it works correctly? "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1010132 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0	Message 1010136 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 23:05:21 UTC - in response to Message 1010132. Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 23:08:05 UTC Has the Boinc version unleashed upon Seti been released for updating by other Boinc projects? And if so, has it caused the gnashing of teeth elsewhere too? Or was it just foisted upon us here until it works correctly? Perhaps. I used to often have 15 to 20 MilkyWay WUs at a time in my queue, and often downloaded a dozen or more at a time on my daily update request. But recently got a message like "maximum of 12 tasks allowed", and then received 2 new WUs. Now I have 2 to 4 MW max in my queue at any one time, get a new one or two when I complete and upload one or two (this happens several times a day, all by itself). Just like SETI has been doing to me recently. No gnashing of teeth here, or in their Forums. ID: 1010136 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 1010140 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 23:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1010136. Has the Boinc version unleashed upon Seti been released for updating by other Boinc projects? And if so, has it caused the gnashing of teeth elsewhere too? Or was it just foisted upon us here until it works correctly? Perhaps. I used to often have 15 to 20 MilkyWay WUs at a time in my queue, and often downloaded a dozen or more at a time on my daily update request. But recently got a message like "maximum of 12 tasks allowed", and then received 2 new WUs. Now I have 2 to 4 MW max in my queue at any one time, get a new one or two when I complete and upload one or two (this happens several times a day, all by itself). Just like SETI has been doing to me recently. No gnashing of teeth here, or in their Forums. I would think that perhaps Joe or Richard might know for sure how the Boinc update process works for other projects and whether in fact this code has gotten out to them. Hopefully somebody that knows for sure will chime in soon. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 1010140 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 1010152 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 23:39:33 UTC - in response to Message 1010140. Has the Boinc version unleashed upon Seti been released for updating by other Boinc projects? And if so, has it caused the gnashing of teeth elsewhere too? Or was it just foisted upon us here until it works correctly? Perhaps. I used to often have 15 to 20 MilkyWay WUs at a time in my queue, and often downloaded a dozen or more at a time on my daily update request. But recently got a message like "maximum of 12 tasks allowed", and then received 2 new WUs. Now I have 2 to 4 MW max in my queue at any one time, get a new one or two when I complete and upload one or two (this happens several times a day, all by itself). Just like SETI has been doing to me recently. No gnashing of teeth here, or in their Forums. I would think that perhaps Joe or Richard might know for sure how the Boinc update process works for other projects and whether in fact this code has gotten out to them. Hopefully somebody that knows for sure will chime in soon. I haven't had time the last few days to keep up, and I certainly know far less than Joe about how all this is supposed to work. But I do observe from the outside, and try to make sense of what I see. There are two versions of the BOINC server code available for projects to use: 1) "Server Stable" - supposedly tested, reliable, ready to use. This is essentially the state of play as at 04 November 2009 (almost eight months ago), plus two bugfixes. 2) "Trunk", which where every loony toon gets thrown. Some of the typos are so obvious even I can spot them! There have been almost 2,000 changes to the 'trunk' code since the last 'server stable' copy was made - although that figure will include client-only, website. translations, and all sorts of other changes. The trouble is that projects who want to use recent innovations like GPUs probably can't make do with the elderly 'server stable': they will have to use some or all of 'trunk'. Big, well-resourced projects like Einstein - who have updated their code within the last month - can afford to examine the source and pick and choose what they want. As Jorden told us in another forum, they have taken most of the nice website goodies, but left behind all the 'CreditNew' code (and they had a whole spare server to set it up and test on, complete with a temporary copy of their entire BOINC database). Other projects like CPDN take everything that is on offer at 'update day', spend ages customising it to suit their house style, and then find that they've picked up some slack code as well as the good stuff they wanted. And yet others, like AQUA, just grab a job lot and run it 'as is', warts and all. ID: 1010152 ·

Aurora Borealis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 3075 Credit: 5,631,463 RAC: 0	Message 1010157 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 23:51:37 UTC Last modified: 30 Jun 2010, 23:53:16 UTC And some projects... LHC being the prime example, haven't updated their code for so long they still have the \\' bug in their forum. It\\'s a pain to read. Can\\'t even set an avitar. ID: 1010157 ·

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