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Message 1007884 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:04:09 UTC

There's something in the news today, that probably some (most ?) of you won't like...
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Message 1007887 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:19:33 UTC - in response to Message 1007884.  
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There's something in the news today, that probably some (most ?) of you won't like...


One of the concerns that has come up in all the threads about the recent outages and "upgrades" is that the capabilities of the active S@H participants has far exceeded the capabilities of the S@H servers to keep up with our productivity.

Short of a major upgrade/expansion to the S@H servers, this may be one of the few options available to them. But if it makes the servers more stable and less apt to crash when they are processing our upload/download requests, I can live with that.

This will probably impact the high-volume crunchers the most. So the question becomes: how will they adjust to the extra days of server outage? (Besides screaming and yelling and threatening to leave) (8{)
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Message 1007888 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:23:37 UTC - in response to Message 1007819.  

So upload, and grab 'em while you can, this won't last for long.

Astropulses, get 'em while they are hot!

Got 3 APs the last 1½ hour, got one downloaded but the servers are busy so it's not going fast :)
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Message 1007890 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:27:38 UTC - in response to Message 1007887.  

So the question becomes: how will they adjust to the extra days of server outage? (Besides screaming and yelling and threatening to leave)

Daddy always told me "Figure out what your good at and stick with it."
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Message 1007891 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:29:24 UTC

Gee, if only there was some way to download enough work to see you through scheduled outages....

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Message 1007892 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:30:29 UTC - in response to Message 1007891.  

Gee, if only there was some way to download enough work to see you through scheduled outages....

Yeah... yeah.... something like a...a...a cache
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Message 1007896 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:41:44 UTC

Guess they won't have to send E-mails asking folk to come back....
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Message 1007900 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:47:24 UTC
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Is this why I am getting no work? Been out for awhile...

6/24/2010 1:45:55 PM SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
6/24/2010 1:46:01 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
6/24/2010 1:46:01 PM SETI@home Message from server: No work sent
6/24/2010 1:46:01 PM SETI@home Message from server: No work is available for SETI@home Enhanced
6/24/2010 1:46:01 PM SETI@home Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your project preferences on the web site.

EDIT: Are the lunatics apps no longer welcome?
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Message 1007901 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:51:48 UTC - in response to Message 1007900.  

right now.. it is hit and miss. get 0 jobs, get 3 jobs, 0 jobs 0 jobs 13 jobs 0 jobs.. And I think the master/replica servers are pushing their limits. Downloads sometimes abort.

It does seem to be catching up.. slowly. But there is a long down time it is still struggling to make up for.

If everything stays up hiamps.. it seems to be getting better at the moment.



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Message 1007904 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1007901.  

right now.. it is hit and miss. get 0 jobs, get 3 jobs, 0 jobs 0 jobs 13 jobs 0 jobs.. And I think the master/replica servers are pushing their limits. Downloads sometimes abort.

It does seem to be catching up.. slowly. But there is a long down time it is still struggling to make up for.

If everything stays up hiamps.. it seems to be getting better at the moment.



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Message 1007906 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:55:32 UTC - in response to Message 1007904.  

nope.. sorry. No answers from me re: lunatics. Box stock on both machines.
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Message 1007907 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:56:36 UTC - in response to Message 1007906.  

nope.. sorry. No answers from me re: lunatics. Box stock on both machines.

May have to rename my boinc and see if I can get standard work. Will give it a bit and see if I get an answer.
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Message 1007908 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:57:04 UTC - in response to Message 1007901.  
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right now.. it is hit and miss. get 0 jobs, get 3 jobs, 0 jobs 0 jobs 13 jobs 0 jobs.. And I think the master/replica servers are pushing their limits. Downloads sometimes abort.

It does seem to be catching up.. slowly. But there is a long down time it is still struggling to make up for.

If everything stays up hiamps.. it seems to be getting better at the moment.




I got several downloads, but they hung up. I have just a few more CPU units to crunch, so I hope I can reload before another outage. I think that in the long run, the new scheduled outages will benefit the science. I did just set my rig for a 10 day cache instead of three. Three days really lasted only one day. I do keep getting the -12 errors, so I hope I am able to load up quickly.

I am using optimized apps, except for the GTX 480's. There may be so many requested downloads, that the system can't keep up.
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Message 1007911 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:58:11 UTC - in response to Message 1007908.  

right now.. it is hit and miss. get 0 jobs, get 3 jobs, 0 jobs 0 jobs 13 jobs 0 jobs.. And I think the master/replica servers are pushing their limits. Downloads sometimes abort.

It does seem to be catching up.. slowly. But there is a long down time it is still struggling to make up for.

If everything stays up hiamps.. it seems to be getting better at the moment.




I got several downloads, but they hung up. I have just a few more CPU units to crunch, so I hope I can reload before another outage. I think that in the long run, the new scheduled outages will benefit the science. I did just set my rig for a 10 day cache instead of three. Three days really lasted only one day. I do keep getting the -12 errors, so I hope I am able to load up quickly.

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Message 1007912 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 1007900.  
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EDIT: Are the lunatics apps no longer welcome?

Yes they are, I'm getting WUs here and there.

I have about 30 WUs downloaded and about 40 trying to download.
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Message 1007913 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 22:59:03 UTC - in response to Message 1007912.  

EDIT: Are the lunatics apps no longer welcome?

Yes they are, I'm getting WUs here and there.

Thanks then I will wait and see. Never know what they are likely to do nowadays.
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Message 1007923 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 23:09:45 UTC - in response to Message 1007893.  

Hmmm, I wondered that.

Have to admit, that would put a bit of a dent in my lurking fixation :)

My little machine wouldn't suffer too much - it's prompted to me to check my prefs, which for as long as I remember, I'd thought was set for 3 days - it was actually set for 2.. I'll bump that up a couple of days I guess.

My worry isn't so much for toddle-alongs like me. It's the machines at the lab who are going to get those extra requests from toddlers like me, who think "Aye up, better increase that cache". I suspect there's an cumulative lots.

Overall - I think it's a good call to chop a few days from the week. I'm optimistic things will adjust. Eventually.


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Message 1007926 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 23:13:57 UTC

All is well as can be LOL Sure wish they would clear up the messages...

6/24/2010 4:11:17 PM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 9 new tasks

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Message 1007931 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 23:15:17 UTC

I was able to pick up ~130 MBs late Friday and early Saturday with ak_v8. There were a lot of "got 0 tasks; no tasks available", but no messages about my app_info.

Also since I ran my MB cache down, I'm..working on trying to go back to AP-only. Need one more to have the four cores busy, and then the cache building starts. Getting almost nothing but "project has no tasks". Kind of seems like the feeder either isn't working properly, or just can't keep up. Probably the latter.
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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 1007933 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 23:18:36 UTC - in response to Message 1007913.  

EDIT: Are the lunatics apps no longer welcome?

Yes they are, I'm getting WUs here and there.

Thanks then I will wait and see. Never know what they are likely to do nowadays.

Sounds like a plan. I've managed to snag a few (AK_V8 and AP) though they are very slow in coming through.

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