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Message 1007563 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 22:14:50 UTC - in response to Message 1007558.  

But maybe computers sold in other countries aren't equipped with such luxuary item as an off button.

There's always the breaker. Or the plug. If all else fails, there's usually a window (works best if you're not on the ground floor).
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Message 1007585 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 22:40:53 UTC - in response to Message 1007551.  


Well, I'm a SETI only person, and despite that I never run out of jobs. Keeping a reasonably high cache gets me through even outages that would last for a week or so (which never happens).

There's no reason whatsoever to get upset if I don't down or upload for a week.

And finally, should I run out of jobs totally, I know where my off buttons are located :-)


I was a SETI only person for quite a while, till I got interested in other projects that kept popping up. Your exactly right, a higher cache does weather through most, if not all, outages, unless SETI goes down for an extended period of time, like it has in the past.

And I totally agree with your last sentence, if nothing is flowing, shut it off. It will come back eventually. :-) I see no reason to be upset either my friend. :-) Happy crunching!
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Message 1007629 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 0:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 1007517.  
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i agree with you 100% it does no good to get upset when things don't go right,i've been with SETI since 07 i leave my computer running 24/7 with SETI running in the backround and go about other things checking in to see how things are going or not going once or twice a day.
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Message 1007720 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 11:01:53 UTC

I know the upload server is down, but shouldn't Boinc be able to connect to the project?

24/06/2010 12:58:17 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
24/06/2010 12:58:17 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
24/06/2010 12:58:18 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
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Message 1007721 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 11:06:30 UTC - in response to Message 1007720.  

I know the upload server is down, but shouldn't Boinc be able to connect to the project?

24/06/2010 12:58:17 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
24/06/2010 12:58:17 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Couldn't connect to server
24/06/2010 12:58:18 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

In Matt's latest Technical News posting yesterday the 23rd, he said;

In any case, the main culprit was our disks filling up, so as I write this we're keeping the project down until major queues drain and the constituent workunit/result files can be deleted.

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Message 1007730 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 12:22:38 UTC - in response to Message 1007722.  

Both upload and download servers are down, as well as the feeder.i686. I guess you can't connect to the project when that happens.

No reason to be able to connect when you can't perform any actions I guess.

But both scheduling server and process are running (according to Server status), so I'd expect
23/06/2010 13:32:45|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
23/06/2010 13:32:45|SETI@home|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
23/06/2010 13:32:45|SETI@home|Project requested delay of 3600.000000 seconds
as in the beginning of this outage. I like this message (and the delay) much more than the error messages and random delay.

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Message 1007752 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 14:45:57 UTC
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Neat aspect of having such a long downtime is that we can see how much bandwidth the forums and website alone use: avg 1.60 Mbits/sec
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I do hope they get the upload server enabled for a few hours before enabling the whole project... sort of a slow start-up. They'll easily max out bandwidth once fully online.
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Message 1007753 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 14:49:21 UTC

I dunno where the bottleneck is, but unless they can temporarily get some more validator horsepower online, this is gonna take a while.
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Message 1007754 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 14:51:43 UTC - in response to Message 1007753.  
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Looks like the assimilation queue is real the bottleneck:
Workunits waiting for validation	      0     0	9m
Workunits waiting for assimilation	963,789	5,141	9m
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Message 1007758 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 14:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 1007754.  

Assimilation rate is some 50k/h, judging from scarecrow's graphs. So around 10 UTC on Friday till they've caught up.
Validation of WU rate seemed about 10 times higher.
On the upside there are more than 20k AP units ready to send.
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Message 1007759 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 15:00:23 UTC - in response to Message 1007754.  
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Looks like the assimilators are punching out ~55,000/hour.
Data Table, last 7 days
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Message 1007761 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 15:08:37 UTC

Ahhh....
So that horsepower needs to be launched in a little different direction then....

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Message 1007762 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 15:09:54 UTC - in response to Message 1007754.  

Looks like the assimilation queue is real the bottleneck:
Workunits waiting for validation	      0     0	9m
Workunits waiting for assimilation	963,789	5,141	9m


That Queue is dropping(939,681 now)and suspect it will be way done before they turn the upload server back on
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Message 1007764 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 15:17:56 UTC

Wonder how many of those 4.6 million results out in the field will hit the upload server when it comes back online?

Ok everybody, fingers off the buttons!! Let BOINC and SETI do there job when it comes time!! :-)


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Message 1007769 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 15:25:54 UTC - in response to Message 1007764.  

Wonder how many of those 4.6 million results out in the field will hit the upload server when it comes back online?

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Message 1007782 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 16:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 1007764.  

Wonder how many of those 4.6 million results out in the field will hit the upload server when it comes back online?

This number slowly decreases also:

As of 24 Jun 2010 14:50:09 UTC
Results ready to send				158,484		21,179
Results out in the field			4,618,405	72,475
Results returned and awaiting validation	6,473,085	75,090
Workunits waiting for validation		0		0
Workunits waiting for assimilation		947,649		5,141
Workunit files waiting for deletion		46		0
Result files waiting for deletion		140		0
Workunits waiting for db purging		937,110		21
Results waiting for db purging			1,981,623	914

As of 24 Jun 2010 15:45:08 UTC
Results ready to send				161,415		22,761
Results out in the field			4,615,486	72,475
Results returned and awaiting validation	6,385,568	75,090
Workunits waiting for validation		0		0
Workunits waiting for assimilation		903,271		5,141
Workunit files waiting for deletion		11		0
Result files waiting for deletion		98		0
Workunits waiting for db purging		981,631		21
Results waiting for db purging			2,072,158	914

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Message 1007805 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 17:13:07 UTC

Uploads going in Just now started flowing!


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Message 1007807 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 17:18:06 UTC

Quick! Server Disk Space! Fill It Up!
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Message 1007808 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 17:25:52 UTC
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Results received in last hour 61,673 1,272 0m Wasn't this 0 just a couple of minutes ago?


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Message 1007817 - Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 17:50:27 UTC
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Rig on a Bench just started to upload about 1000 jobs hope there is some left to dowmload when it has finished.
Going to put kettle on for a cuppa and wait.
Shame Italy are going home but it was a good match.

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