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Message 1006251 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 16:17:00 UTC

Up to over 900 tasks now, Mark. Still coming too.

Better get em while there hot!
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Message 1006254 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 16:21:15 UTC - in response to Message 1006242.  

Mark I think you're being far far too dramatic. Just be patient.


Wouldn't be the same without some drama llama! :)


Well, better he vents his frustration here than, say, shooting up the local Government office building or sending an envelope of white, powdery substance to Dr. A in Berkeley ......

I'm not a fan of the big "cruncher farms", or wingmen with multiple gpus that run 1000+ WU caches that take 8 weeks to process and report while I have Pending WUs that are 3 and 4 months old, but I do see that many of the complaints Mark and others have raised are valid.

The recent software changes WERE handled poorly. There SHOULD have been some advance notice of what was being changed (and how and why), what effects we expected to see, so we could watch and report problems, and to avoid the unpleasant "Surprises" and the firestorm of complaints we saw here. To not do that was a very poor MANAGEMENT decision.

It was probably also a mistake to implement so many changes at once. I learned long ago, working with electronics and industrial controls that the more things you change, the more likely you are to have unexpected effects, cause additional problems, and make your troubleshooting that much more difficult.

I know that Matt, Eric, Jeff, and the rest work very hard keeping this project (and all the others they work on) up and running. But they could do a better job if they did just a little more to keep us Users in the loop, so we can HELP, and not be surprised/upset/angered when things don't go as expected.

For whatever reasons, we are all here because we WANT to be. We want to be a part of this, we want to help. We have knowledge, skills, and experience that could be more useful to the project if we know what is going on, what changes are coming.

We are here to help. Let us.

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Enough drama now..........

Yes, I am here because I wanna be here.

That should be evident.

And I piss and moan that things COULD be better than they are........
And that is very evident too.
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Message 1006371 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 23:12:10 UTC - in response to Message 1006282.  

I know that Matt, Eric, Jeff, and the rest work very hard keeping this project (and all the others they work on) up and running. But they could do a better job if they did just a little more to keep us Users in the loop, so we can HELP, and not be surprised/upset/angered when things don't go as expected.


They are far too busy firefighting. DC computing is what it is, sometimes hit and miss, sometimes there and sometimes not. You take it or leave it as it is. If people spent as much time fighting global warming as they do here moaning about down time (not you), the planet would be a better place.


Let me rephrase that for clarity - But they could do a better job if Management/BOINC Developers did just a little more to keep us Users in the loop, so we can HELP, and not be surprised/upset/angered when changes don't go off as expected.

I have nothing but respect for Matt, Eric, and Jeff - they work real hard to keep everything working and a steady flow of data for us to crunch and return. But they are not in charge. Giving us a "Heads-Up" when changes are coming down is a MANAGEMENT responsibility.
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Message 1006377 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 23:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 1006371.  

Let me rephrase that for clarity - But they could do a better job if Management/BOINC Developers did just a little more to keep us Users in the loop, so we can HELP, and not be surprised/upset/angered when changes don't go off as expected.

I have nothing but respect for Matt, Eric, and Jeff - they work real hard to keep everything working and a steady flow of data for us to crunch and return. But they are not in charge. Giving us a "Heads-Up" when changes are coming down is a MANAGEMENT responsibility.


I have to agree 100% with this.


Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
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Message 1006393 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 0:25:54 UTC - in response to Message 1006037.  


I'm back for just 2 weeks and seen nothing but trouble...



hahah, you and me both. I haven't crunched seti in maybe 3 years. but someone gave me a gtx 260, so I thought I'd give it a shot again. I think seti has crashed every day since I rejoined.


The KittyMan's leaving and comments like the above quote are saddening.
Reason being, I have also shut down my i7 because of recent events.
I've been doing this for 10 years, and the "fun factor" has taken a severe nose-dive in the past few years.

Was going to just wait it out, let the storm pass, etc etc, but I'm obviously not the only one feeling the dissatisfaction. So I'm leaving it off.

I just reached 500K and clocked 10 years.

That is awesome in my opinion, and a perfect time to print out the certificate and call it done.

Sign me: one of the anonymous faces.
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Message 1006401 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 1:08:18 UTC

Kittyman has reconsidered......again.

Still here crunching them up.

You know I could not stay away very long..........
I have 4 rigs not crunching to try to save power bills to attempt to pay for my upcoming eye surgery.

But the 4 Cuda rigs are doing their best to keep up the legacy.
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Message 1006402 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 1:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1006401.  

Excellent!

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Message 1006404 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 1:26:18 UTC - in response to Message 1006402.  

Excellent!

Steve

Naw.......just me.

I passed my excellent years long ago.

Now I just get by.

But thanks for the thought, Steve.
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Message 1006415 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 2:03:55 UTC - in response to Message 1006401.  


I have 4 rigs not crunching to try to save power bills to attempt to pay for my upcoming eye surgery...


you getting a "bionic" eye?

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Message 1006422 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 2:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1006415.  


I have 4 rigs not crunching to try to save power bills to attempt to pay for my upcoming eye surgery...


you getting a "bionic" eye?

That's what they tell me.........scared, I am.
I hope it's not as buggy at Boinc is.
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Message 1006468 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 7:00:30 UTC

Nice to see you're progressing again Mark :).

I bet many people are wanting to say this, but hope it's not a BOINC-ic eye ;).
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Message 1006622 - Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 17:16:58 UTC - in response to Message 1006401.  

Kittyman has reconsidered......again.

Still here crunching them up.

You know I could not stay away very long..........
I have 4 rigs not crunching to try to save power bills to attempt to pay for my upcoming eye surgery.

But the 4 Cuda rigs are doing their best to keep up the legacy.


Told ya :)
We can´t stay away of the things that make our hearts beat faster, no matter what it is. Motocross, SETI, Johnnie Walker and Red Bull and girls are my problems. I don´t know the proper order. Can´t leave any of them without being depressed. And come back fast as soon as I can harder than before. No jokes LOL.
Yeah I know... poor me :(


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Message 1007191 - Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 6:14:28 UTC

Almost done here.

hit 50K.. I will run it till 100K. I was going to shoot for my first 1 mil.

Got into the top 80% of crunchers in all time, top 20K of of RAC{boinc wide).

There is no respect for doing this within the project, and it means nothing outside of the project. But I will take it to 100K.

I hear people talking about 2 million people crunching. My nearest guess is that 1.8 million have stopped already. Most of the people I am passing have RAC of 0/0/0. Just guessing, but it seems under 200,000, perhaps 100,000 involved in BOINC over all currently.

It is just not worth being treated like this to accomplish more.

Quite the Achievement.

They have about 30K units to change my mind. I do not expect it.
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Message 1007249 - Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 13:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 1006636.  

Motocross, SETI, Johnnie Walker and Red Bull and girls are my problems. I don´t know the proper order.


You wanna get that sorted out mate ! :-))


Nah... I try to do it before, but its pointless. I need them all and won´t fight against it anymore, its just lost of energy. Energy that I shall put on all to be on top always (my god no joke again) LOL.

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Message 1007257 - Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 13:55:33 UTC - in response to Message 1007249.  

Motocross, SETI, Johnnie Walker and Red Bull and girls are my problems. I don´t know the proper order.


You wanna get that sorted out mate ! :-))


Nah... I try to do it before, but its pointless. I need them all and won´t fight against it anymore, its just lost of energy. Energy that I shall put on all to be on top always (my god no joke again) LOL.


"Energy that I shall put on all to be on top always"
I like that, I bet you set your World on fire, don't ever stop.
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Message 1007327 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 9:54:35 UTC

The way i see it, the Seti team is under no obligation at all to keep us in work, or provide amusement for us. It's their project, they can run it as they see fit.

They aren't answerable to us, they don't owe us anything. If one doesn't want to crunch, there's always someone new to come along and replace them.
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Message 1007329 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 10:06:00 UTC - in response to Message 1007327.  

The way i see it, the Seti team is under no obligation at all to keep us in work, or provide amusement for us. It's their project, they can run it as they see fit.

They aren't answerable to us, they don't owe us anything. If one doesn't want to crunch, there's always someone new to come along and replace them.


Yes, and that attitude explains the shrinking numbers of crunchers, the complete and total lack of treating this as a "production" project. And the utter contempt of anyone that does not kowtow to the whim.

We do not owe them anything. And they are throwing wrenches into finding ET.



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Message 1007333 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 10:22:06 UTC

Yes, and that attitude explains the shrinking numbers of crunchers, the complete and total lack of treating this as a "production" project. And the utter contempt of anyone that does not kowtow to the whim.


Production project? I thought it was the Seti@home project. Run by Seti@Home staff. Staff who volounteer their time, for their passion. The same staff you expect to be awake and sitting there watching the servers 24 hours a day, regardless of anything else they may wish to do with their lives. Kowtow'ing to YOUR whim, and what YOU want.

The staff aren't here to serve YOUR needs.

If the servers go offline for a few days, is there nothing else you can do with your time other than sit there looking at the server status page?

Take a walk, go see a friend, call a family member and say g'day.
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Message 1007334 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 10:46:04 UTC - in response to Message 1007333.  

Yes, and that attitude explains the shrinking numbers of crunchers, the complete and total lack of treating this as a "production" project. And the utter contempt of anyone that does not kowtow to the whim.


Production project? I thought it was the Seti@home project. Run by Seti@Home staff. Staff who volounteer their time, for their passion. The same staff you expect to be awake and sitting there watching the servers 24 hours a day, regardless of anything else they may wish to do with their lives. Kowtow'ing to YOUR whim, and what YOU want.

The staff aren't here to serve YOUR needs.

If the servers go offline for a few days, is there nothing else you can do with your time other than sit there looking at the server status page?

Take a walk, go see a friend, call a family member and say g'day.


Yes, "production" project. If you look at the list in BOINC.. this project shows in PRODUCTION, as opposed to BETA or... as is more honest here. ALPHA testing.

I came to help find ET. Not test their software over and over and over.


Oh.. and not to worry. I will be taking a walk shortly. And you can go right on cheer leading.

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Message 1007335 - Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 10:54:56 UTC
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I came to help find ET. Not test their software over and over and over.


You just chose a very bad time to join - bad luck to you.

If you feel so inclined, then I'd suggest you take a break for a month and come back then. Maybe you'll find a mostly working project, which is what happens most of the time - to the point that I don't recall the last outage of this length.

Still, you could have joined LHC. Welcome to a project that has work about as much as this project doesn't. LHC is (or at least was) in production too.
Stats site - http://www.teamocuk.co.uk - still alive and (just about) kicking.
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