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Message 997899 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 14:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 997847.  

You need to tell this in alpha or dev BOINC mail lists perhaps (but w/o any guaranties it will change anything ;) )


For one year or something, I wrote in the BOINC devs forum about: BOINC V6.6.20 + big WU cache -> increasing CUDA calculation (longer calculation time).
I wrote only with a forum mod (got response). And he thought I'm a stupid guy, I felt like, because of his replies.
Then I made a ticket, and after a short time it was deleted, because of 'useless infos'.
So now I'm shy* to write again there, or to an other place because of BOINC.


Maybe you, as a part of the optimizer crew and as 'officially SETI@home supporter' ;-) , would like to write there? You have more experiences for to write there. And I guess they have more 'respect' for you.
The whole SETI@home community would appreciate it very much.

Maybe if not in/as stock client, then maybe they would make it possible via cc_config.xml file for advanced user..

Thank you in advance. :-)


[* In other words - I don't want, if it's not needed.. :o)]

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Message 997900 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 14:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 997844.  

But hey it is weekend after all, and we need to get used to.

And in the UK at least, it's a gloriously hot, sunny first weekend of summer.

Time to cool the GPUs and warm the skin.


OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

Keeping on topic, the uploads server is still disabled.

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Message 997907 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 15:08:39 UTC - in response to Message 997900.  

OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

If we're going to be tribal about it, I can only speak for Yorkshire (central northern England)....

I don't have a thermometer myself, but local media are saying 25 C / 77 F. Over the county line in Lancashire, Rochdale (about 20 miles south of me), is reporting 27 C / 80 F.

Believe me, that's glorious round these parts, especially for mid-May.
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Message 997920 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 15:33:55 UTC - in response to Message 997907.  

OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

If we're going to be tribal about it, I can only speak for Yorkshire (central northern England)....

I don't have a thermometer myself, but local media are saying 25 C / 77 F. Over the county line in Lancashire, Rochdale (about 20 miles south of me), is reporting 27 C / 80 F.

Believe me, that's glorious round these parts, especially for mid-May.


Glad my old wet County is getting some good weather. Now we are up in Scotland, much the same and maybe affecting cruncher performance!.

So far no one has switched uploads back on. Much traffic ahead for Bruno!

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Message 997939 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 16:38:08 UTC

Is there a back door that some are using???

Results received in last hour....................
MB = 6,290
AP = 146

How is this possible with the upload server disabled???
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Message 997940 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 16:46:01 UTC - in response to Message 997939.  

Is there a back door that some are using???

Results received in last hour....................
MB = 6,290
AP = 146

How is this possible with the upload server disabled???

Results can be reported (automatically) up to 24 hours after being uploaded, and even later than that if you suspend networking manually.

When I got up this morning, I found that uploads had stopped overnight (UK time). But one host hadn't needed to fetch any new work overnight, and hadn't bothered to make a special call to report the work which had (successfuly) uploaded during the early part of the night. I've subsequently reported it manually: Anakin is still running.

Perhaps the language on the SSP should be changed to 'Results reported in last hour...'.
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Message 997945 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 16:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 997940.  
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Thanks Richard for the info.

That would also explain why my pending was reduced by 10K overnight even though I was unable to upload.
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Message 997949 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 17:17:30 UTC - in response to Message 997907.  
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OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

If we're going to be tribal about it, I can only speak for Yorkshire (central northern England)....

I don't have a thermometer myself, but local media are saying 25 C / 77 F. Over the county line in Lancashire, Rochdale (about 20 miles south of me), is reporting 27 C / 80 F.

Believe me, that's glorious round these parts, especially for mid-May.

80F is indeed toasty for mid-May! I hope that it is as nice in Gwynedd, where my tribe is from.

...and still no uploads.

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Message 997951 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 17:17:47 UTC

I woke up to find that I've got plenty of work. Enough for ~5 days, actually, with only two uploads waiting to go through, so at least for another day, I can still request work, as long as I stay below 8 uploads.

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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 997953 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 17:29:16 UTC - in response to Message 997949.  
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OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

If we're going to be tribal about it, I can only speak for Yorkshire (central northern England)....

I don't have a thermometer myself, but local media are saying 25 C / 77 F. Over the county line in Lancashire, Rochdale (about 20 miles south of me), is reporting 27 C / 80 F.

Believe me, that's glorious round these parts, especially for mid-May.

80F is indeed toasty for mid-May! I hope that it is as nice in Gwynedd, where my tribe is from.

It's been about 25°C here on Anglesey today, Scorchio as they say round here :)

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Edit: for you who don't know where Anglesey is, it's an Island on the North West Coast of Wales, and used to be part of Gwynedd.
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Message 997955 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 17:36:20 UTC
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Both machines from me reported one '-12 error'* each during the current UL server probs.
So results, which don't need to be ULed, can also be reported. ;-)

Reported 22 May 2010 - 15:54:23 UTC


Also VLAR killed WUs - which 'need' to be ULed - but the report can happen before. Because the UL is nonsense, for nothing.
This will count also as received results, I guess.


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Message 997960 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 18:10:24 UTC - in response to Message 997953.  

OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

If we're going to be tribal about it, I can only speak for Yorkshire (central northern England)....

I don't have a thermometer myself, but local media are saying 25 C / 77 F. Over the county line in Lancashire, Rochdale (about 20 miles south of me), is reporting 27 C / 80 F.

Believe me, that's glorious round these parts, especially for mid-May.

80F is indeed toasty for mid-May! I hope that it is as nice in Gwynedd, where my tribe is from.

It's been about 25°C here on Anglesey today, Scorchio as they say round here :)

Claggy

Edit: for you who don't know where Anglesey is, it's an Island on the North West Coast of Wales, and used to be part of Gwynedd.

All this talk of sunshime is making me thirsty - and the sun is well over the yardarm.

Feel free to post in the Fermi thread - I've done my opening posts, and I'm off for a beer.
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Message 997966 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 18:27:41 UTC

Never mind the server panic. I've got alarms going off on my PCs (and that's with BOINC stopped).

Thermometer currently reading 29.9C (85.8F) with the doors and windows open. Us Brits aren't used to this sort of thing. What happened to 18C and raining?

PS - Hope the server upload issues get sorted soon, as it seems BOINC won't download if it can't upload. No rush though - it's a weekend so please enjoy it.


Stats site - http://www.teamocuk.co.uk - still alive and (just about) kicking.
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Message 997975 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 18:45:42 UTC - in response to Message 997966.  

What happened to 18C and raining?

18C and raining? You were lucky!
We used to get up at dead o' night, afore we went to sleep....etc., etc.
Crunchers today, they'd never believe us.

Still down. Hoped someone would have sent an electric Bruno prod down the wires by now.
Heigh ho, loads of work to do. My cache rules OK!

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Message 997978 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 18:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 997953.  
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OK, I have to ask. What is defined as "gloriously hot" in Great Britain (I cannot bring myself to call it the "United Kingdom")?

If we're going to be tribal about it, I can only speak for Yorkshire (central northern England)....

I don't have a thermometer myself, but local media are saying 25 C / 77 F. Over the county line in Lancashire, Rochdale (about 20 miles south of me), is reporting 27 C / 80 F.

Believe me, that's glorious round these parts, especially for mid-May.

80F is indeed toasty for mid-May! I hope that it is as nice in Gwynedd, where my tribe is from.

It's been about 25°C here on Anglesey today, Scorchio as they say round here :)

Claggy

Edit: for you who don't know where Anglesey is, it's an Island on the North West Coast of Wales, and used to be part of Gwynedd.


25C on Ynys Mon! I need to win the lottery and get over there!

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...still no uploads.

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Message 997980 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 19:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 997975.  

What happened to 18C and raining?

18C and raining? You were lucky!
We used to get up at dead o' night, afore we went to sleep....etc., etc.
Crunchers today, they'd never believe us.


True! Many a time did this happen. Usually at 2am when I was trying to outsmart team mates with SetiQueue-inspired shock and awe. Ah, those were the days!

These modern types with their BOINC. Most probably don't know or care that a server is down. They don't know what they missed| :)

(29.5C and the alarms have fallen silent - phew! - it'll be 23C or so by morning)
Stats site - http://www.teamocuk.co.uk - still alive and (just about) kicking.
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Message 997983 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 19:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 997844.  

And in the UK at least, it's a gloriously hot, sunny first weekend of summer.

It’s cool and rainy here, but at least it’s a long weekend. Do you still celebrate Victoria Day over there?

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Message 998003 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 20:00:29 UTC

k well, if I manage to exhaust this several hundred WUs I have queued, I have plenty of other projects to run instead
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Message 998009 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 20:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 997899.  
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You need to tell this in alpha or dev BOINC mail lists perhaps (but w/o any guaranties it will change anything ;) )


For one year or something, I wrote in the BOINC devs forum about: BOINC V6.6.20 + big WU cache -> increasing CUDA calculation (longer calculation time).
I wrote only with a forum mod (got response). And he thought I'm a stupid guy, I felt like, because of his replies.
Then I made a ticket, and after a short time it was deleted, because of 'useless infos'.
So now I'm shy* to write again there, or to an other place because of BOINC.


Well, it's usual reaction on any change or feature request.
BOINC's "inertia" amount is like planet mass (or more) :D Sometimes it's good, sometimes it just annoys. Cause second happens MUCH often, it seems maybe it's time to renew tradition of custom BOINC builds with some of un-features disabled. I personally hate to mess with BOINC's code, but it looks like this way would be easier.
[Big flaw in such approach will be very small area of usage. Most of hosts will still use stock BOINC just as now they use slower stock science apps.]
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Message 998011 - Posted: 22 May 2010, 20:08:03 UTC
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The temp at the back of my house was 29.4c the room that i have my computor in is at the back of the house... the temp in ther was 27.3, i has the shades closed and the windows open it did the trick... no uploads and no ice cream vans about. (Birmingham)
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