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Planet-hunter Geoff Marcy and SETI scientist Dan Werthimer will be having a public debate about the existence of technological life in the universe on Friday, April 30, 2010 (7:30pm) at UC Berkeley. Free admission. Click here for more information. Update: This will be streamed live. When exactly? It depends where you are. -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude |
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ok SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow with a general handicap of 80% and it makes much d' efforts for the community and s' expimer, thank you d' to be understanding. |
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Planet-hunter Geoff Marcy and SETI scientist Dan Werthimer will be having a public debate about the existence of technological life in the universe on Friday, April 30, 2010 (7:30pm) at UC Berkeley. Will this be streamed or, better yet, be recorded (audio or video) for later download? Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
I wish I could afford plane tickets as I would love to be in attendance for this one. :) |
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Would be awesome with a recording. |
AndrewSiemion Send message Joined: 20 Dec 09 Posts: 19 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Hi all, Indeed we will be streaming this event live, taking live questions from the internet audience, as well as recording and uploading in high-def. More info to follow. If you're interested in helping out (moderating questions, editing video, ushering if you're local, etc...) please let me know. siemion at berkeley dot edu - Andrew |
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I want to know whether do seti have found some important find? |
Razz Send message Joined: 27 Nov 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 332,240 RAC: 0 ![]() |
50 years of SETI - no signs of life out there. What a waste of time. |
W-H-Oami Send message Joined: 6 Mar 10 Posts: 15 Credit: 168,510 RAC: 0 ![]() |
If we are alone, it will be an awful waste of space. |
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Then why are you here? |
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If there were no other intelligent life in the near infinity of space, then we should not be here either!!! That would mean that the marvels of the cosmos would be irrelevant with no intelligence to observe it. Maybe the "creator" realised this and made sure that life could come about to appreciate his works? Even if we do find a message from the beyond, conversation is going to be somewhat difficult with a time-lag delay each way of at the very least 10 light years!! That's within the Milky Way Galaxy. Outside the Milky Way we are looking at a 20,000 year wait for an answer to any question sent to the next nearest galaxy!!! Keith |
Odysseus ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1808 Credit: 6,701,347 RAC: 6 ![]() |
Outside the Milky Way we are looking at a 20,000 year wait for an answer to any question sent to the next nearest galaxy!!! Much, much longer: we’re something like 30,000 LY from the centre of our own Galaxy. The nearest large galaxy to us, M31 in Andromeda, is over two million LY away; IIRC even the Magellanic Clouds, small galaxies that the Milky Way is in the process of chewing up, are about 150,000 LY from here. ![]() |
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thank you~ |
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Do you know there is a spaceship in moon~?that is interest..~ |
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50 years of SETI - no signs of life out there. What a waste of time. Actually SETI is looking for Intelligence, "life" has already been proven to exist in the form of bacteria. Obviously you're having trouble exhibiting what they are looking for. No insult intended Ralinos One Big A** Mistake America |
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If there were no other intelligent life in the near infinity of space, then we should not be here either!!! That would mean that the marvels of the cosmos would be irrelevant with no intelligence to observe it. Maybe the "creator" realised this and made sure that life could come about to appreciate his works? Even if we do find a message from the beyond, conversation is going to be somewhat difficult with a time-lag delay each way of at the very least 10 light years!! That's within the Milky Way Galaxy. Outside the Milky Way we are looking at a 20,000 year wait for an answer to any question sent to the next nearest galaxy!!! ================================= Much, much longer: we’re something like 30,000 LY from the centre of our own Galaxy. The nearest large galaxy to us, M31 in Andromeda, is over two million LY away; IIRC even the Magellanic Clouds, small galaxies that the Milky Way is in the process of chewing up, are about 150,000 LY from here. ================================= Odysseus Thanks for correcting my time/distances. I new that my figures were "at least" those i quoted, but had not delved that deeply when compiling my message. Your revelation makes my observation that it is even more improbable, although I do not think there can be anything less probable than infinitely improbable!!! So, following on the "creator" supposition, it seems we have to conclude that we are denied any contact with other intelligences (outside the Milky Way Galaxy anyway), as they will not have evolved to that stage by the time any message might reach us, and it seems that we are certain not to be able to marvel at any other intelligence, but only to ponder on our own development, and reluctantly being forced to conclude that the end of the Solar System may well precede the arrival of any message from elsewhere reaching us at the speed of light!!! All the intelligences may well be concurrently doing their own SETI thing, but by the time that all the messages start reaching any suitable destinations, the sending intelligence will have ceased to exist!!! It will also be ironic that any message received, will be certain to be from a source that has long since ceased to exist!!! Maybe our SETI task is comparable to a making a forlorn search for an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh still being alive today in order to have two way conversation!!! But let's keep trying. Keith |
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I have marked my calender =) ![]() N = R x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L |
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Totally off topic, yet not. But am I alone in having einstein@home not work. I keep getting an error about the graphic screensaver, and this shuts down my Boinc until it changes projects. I know this is SETI site, and I will re-post on their board too, I was just curious if there were more experienced people who have also had a problem w/einstein? Ralinos One Big A** Mistake America |
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sorry jumped the gun I am not alone, haven't gotten an answer from them yet, but it seems to be an on going issue. just wanted to correct myself. apparently it's just the screen-saver not working, the project is now ready to report, so it seems to have been working all night (we'll see if I get any credit or if it reports a malfunction). Ralinos One Big A** Mistake America |
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P.S. is there any way to remove one of your own posts after posting, or is the only solution to edit the content out as I did in the post listed as replied to.. Ralinos One Big A** Mistake America |
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