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Message 973696 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 9:22:34 UTC - in response to Message 973680.  

Granted the server seems to be getting a lot of hits, but the question is why the server isn't able to reply to queries.

If the server is getting more queries than it can reply to, then some (or many) of them will go unanswered.
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Message 973711 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 11:12:45 UTC - in response to Message 973680.  

[quote]I am getting a strange message
2/24/2010 11:46:06 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)


My running stdoutdae.txt file goes back to Nov 1, 2009. It contains that "(no headers, no data)" message once on Nov 2, a few times on Nov 25th, and then not again until Feb 21st.

Now it is happening maybe 50% of the time, every day.

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Message 973768 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 15:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 973680.  

My bad it is the meaasge logged when a task is restarted on the client. Got confused because there is no supend message to match.
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Message 973782 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 16:06:46 UTC

I'm also getting this regularly:
2/25/2010 7:44:55 AM SETI@home Beta Test Not reporting or requesting tasks
2/25/2010 7:44:56 AM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
2/25/2010 7:44:57 AM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
2/25/2010 7:45:00 AM SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request failed: Failure when receiving data from the peer

Across all three of my operating computers (all run S@H, two run S@H Beta: getting it for both sites!) These messages are from my main computer...

Sometimes the last line reads:
2/24/2010 8:03:12 AM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)
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Message 973826 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 18:23:05 UTC - in response to Message 973768.  
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My bad, it is the message logged when a task is restarted on the client. Got confused because there is no supend message to match.

To get this
25/02/2010 17:08:51|Einstein@Home|[cpu_sched] Preempting h1_1184.20_S5R4__2476_S5R6a_2 (removed from memory)
25/02/2010 17:08:51|SETI@home|[cpu_sched] Starting 29ja07ac.21335.17250.9.10.15_1(resume)
25/02/2010 17:08:51|SETI@home|Restarting task 29ja07ac.21335.17250.9.10.15_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603

you'll have to add <cpu_sched>1</cpu_sched> to the <log_flags></log_flags> section of your cc_config.xml file.

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Message 973860 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 21:24:58 UTC

Strange thing occured on my PC. All of the sudden Seti Beta changed into Seti but the URL stayed the same (setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta). I had to reset Beta and lost all my Beta WU's because of that. Now everything is OK though. Did anyone else ever experience this?
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Message 973869 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 21:50:28 UTC - in response to Message 973860.  

Did anyone else ever experience this?

Yes. See Outage related problem.

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Message 973873 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 22:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 973711.  
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[quote]I am getting a strange message
2/24/2010 11:46:06 PM SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)


My running stdoutdae.txt file goes back to Nov 1, 2009. It contains that "(no headers, no data)" message once on Nov 2, a few times on Nov 25th, and then not again until Feb 21st.

Now it is happening maybe 50% of the time, every day.

Martin

Hi Martin,

Since approx. an hour ago I'm getting these messages as well (and therefore fail to report work). It has now been happening for approx. 20 successive tries to report work. Strange thing is that the Cricket graphs don't show any excessive traffic. I'm just hoping it will disappear as suddenly as it showed up :-)

[edit]On closer scrutiny it appears that inbound traffic is higher than I thought. The y-axis of the graph starts at 10 MBit instead of the usual 0, so inbound is approx. 11 MBits/sec, which is quite high. I expect the 'no header' messages will disappear as soon as inbound traffic goes down.[/edit]

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Message 973885 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 23:00:17 UTC - in response to Message 973873.  
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Since approx. an hour ago I'm getting these messages as well (and therefore fail to report work). It has now been happening for approx. 20 successive tries to report work.


Something must've "hit the wall" somewhere. My last update was successful just a few minutes ago. I did have a couple failures today, but nothing like what you experienced.

Hang in there - the completed work should get through soon enough.

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Message 973940 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 4:24:50 UTC - in response to Message 973860.  

Strange thing occured on my PC. All of the sudden Seti Beta changed into Seti but the URL stayed the same (setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta). I had to reset Beta and lost all my Beta WU's because of that. Now everything is OK though. Did anyone else ever experience this?

Yes.
See this thread on the Beta project.
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Message 974107 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 17:58:38 UTC

OK. Thanx guys.
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Message 974150 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 20:06:06 UTC

26-Feb-10 06:43:48 SETI@home update requested by user
26-Feb-10 06:43:50 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
26-Feb-10 06:43:50 SETI@home Not reporting or requesting tasks
26-Feb-10 06:43:55 SETI@home Scheduler request completed
26-Feb-10 10:51:40 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26-Feb-10 10:51:40 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
26-Feb-10 10:51:41 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
26-Feb-10 10:51:42 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
26-Feb-10 10:51:45 SETI@home Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)
26-Feb-10 10:52:45 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26-Feb-10 10:52:45 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
26-Feb-10 10:52:50 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
26-Feb-10 10:52:52 SETI@home Started download of 07mr07ad.24560.8661.6.10.226
26-Feb-10 10:53:15 Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
26-Feb-10 10:53:15 SETI@home Temporarily failed download of 07mr07ad.24560.8661.6.10.226: HTTP error
26-Feb-10 10:53:15 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 07mr07ad.24560.8661.6.10.226
26-Feb-10 10:53:16 Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
26-Feb-10 10:54:16 SETI@home [error] File 07mr07ad.24560.8661.6.10.226 has wrong size: expected 375348, got 52344

Anybody else seeing this type of thing?

Have a great weekend all!

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Message 974151 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 20:11:54 UTC - in response to Message 974150.  
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26-Feb-10 10:54:16 SETI@home [error] File 07mr07ad.24560.8661.6.10.226 has wrong size: expected 375348, got 52344

Anybody else seeing this type of thing?

Have a great weekend all!

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Except for the above line (which is normal for a resumed download...) all the above is what I mentioned yesterday! (AND is still occuring...)

(wouldn't it be better if people actually read the thread B4 posting?) ;-)
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Message 974185 - Posted: 26 Feb 2010, 22:20:48 UTC

Is there anything we can do to help, as a regular seti contributors some of us run many computers , for exsample when I get to work on a Monday morning first thing I do is update all 3 boxes at once , Is this a good thing ???

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Message 974391 - Posted: 27 Feb 2010, 8:17:53 UTC - in response to Message 974185.  

It's usually best to let BOINC call the servers when it's ready.
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Message 974500 - Posted: 27 Feb 2010, 17:07:03 UTC - in response to Message 974185.  
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the silence is deafening


Is there anything we can do to help, as a regular seti contributors some of us run many computers , for example when I get to work on a Monday morning first thing I do is update all 3 boxes at once , Is this a good thing ???

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by all means, do what ever it takes to keep your machines fed (out of work or low). I flush my machines in the morning and at night.
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Message 974588 - Posted: 27 Feb 2010, 22:15:06 UTC

The update button doesn't work on the account page, Now I click It and the screen goes White when I try to change to a different icon. Someone might want to fix this and look at the other functions there as more may be damaged.
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Message 974809 - Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 17:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 974588.  

I guess Matt hasn't had time to post updates. Part of the fix to the hack were changes to security settings for just about everything. That's probably what's messing up avatar changes. I'll let him know.

Another part is restricting who makes changes to security settings, so Matt will need to do the fix.
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Message 974826 - Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 19:24:32 UTC - in response to Message 974809.  

But *nix doesn't get hacked! Surely it must have been a Windows machine that caused all the problems...
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Message 974847 - Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 20:52:28 UTC - in response to Message 974826.  

But *nix doesn't get hacked! Surely it must have been a Windows machine that caused all the problems...


Good one there OzzFan :)

UNIX *is* a hack. It evolved from a quick-and-dirty lab experiment that got loose, and security was never designed into it from the ground up. The same holds for the more popular UNIX staples like NFS: hack upon hack and no security to speak of under the hood. Compared to other OSes Unices are comparatively easy to compromise if one has access to a system login or if one can remotely convince a daemon to spawn a shell. UNIX is not the best OS out there, it is merely one of the less horrible ones.

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