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Message 973395 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 2:43:23 UTC - in response to Message 973391.  

George, it looks like your opt. app. is not right. That AK_V8 should have been in your Opt. App. but SETI is trying to find it and download it. Try shutting down SETI and Boinc and post the first 20 or so messages after you restart them. I'd bet it will say something to the effect it can't find AK_V8.....


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Message 973502 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 12:05:33 UTC - in response to Message 973381.  

Siran d'Vel'nahr wrote:
Problems...? Problems...? We don't have no stinkin' problems...
My last finished WU just uploaded. Woohoo!!! :)
KUDOS to the SETI team! :)
Keep on BOINCing...! :)

Are you sure? Mine have uploaded too, but "too late to validate". Server is kidding, 8 days down and then too late to validate, nice joke.

My apologies for your loss of credit because of the deadlines not met. :( My earliest deadline was March 4, most others weren't due until April. It's a bummer when a project has a problem that forces WUs to be re-crunched because the deadlines weren't met.

I check BOINC every day, such as before I go to work and after I get home. If I see a backlog of WUs that have not been reported, I manually do it with the "Update" button. Otherwise, I just let BOINC do its thing.

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Message 973507 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 13:07:36 UTC

Nice work Seti! Thanks and keep on crunchin'!
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Message 973514 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 13:33:03 UTC - in response to Message 973502.  

Hi, I do not check BOINC, every day, it's supposed to 'check' itself and does a good job at it.
Only when a screen from a 'troubled host' comes up, I'll check, what's
going wrong, if anything is wrong. Sometimes a screen 'pops up', when I play music probably too loud and a mouse picks up the vibrations . . .


I'm curious if the SETI staff finds anything unusual, during the outage today?
Anyway I'm glad everything is working again and uploaded my WU's.

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Message 973540 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 14:51:39 UTC - in response to Message 973395.  

Hello,

Here is what is displayed from the Message tab:

2/23/2010 9:48:43 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.18 for windows_intelx86
2/23/2010 9:48:43 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/23/2010 9:48:43 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
2/23/2010 9:48:43 AM Data directory: F:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
2/23/2010 9:48:43 AM Running under account Administrator
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 4]
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Memory: 1.50 GB physical, 3.35 GB virtual
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Disk: 127.99 GB total, 89.78 GB free
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Local time is UTC -5 hours
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM No usable GPUs found
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Not using a proxy
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM rosetta@home URL http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 1128680; resource share 100
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Milkyway@home URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 114662; resource share 100
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4955687; resource share 100
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 13-Jul-2005 07:57:01)
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM SETI@home Computer location: home
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Reading preferences override file
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 767.65MB
2/23/2010 9:48:44 AM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1381.77MB
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM Preferences limit disk usage to 63.99GB
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe not found
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM [error] No URL for file transfer of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM Milkyway@home Restarting task de_s222_pes_2_v04_449723_1266425500_0 using milkyway version 19
2/23/2010 9:48:46 AM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe

Next step is . . . ?

Thank you :)
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Message 973552 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 15:11:46 UTC - in response to Message 973540.  

2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe not found
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM [error] No URL for file transfer of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe

Next step is . . . ?

Thank you :)

Re-install the missing file manually, or however you did it last time.
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Message 973554 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 15:19:19 UTC - in response to Message 973540.  

These are the lines I figured I'd see..
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe not found
2/23/2010 9:48:45 AM [error] No URL for file transfer of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe

And this could be why the file can't be found...
2/23/2010 9:48:43 AM Data directory: F:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC

As Richard said, Re-install the missing file either manually or with the unified installer making sure it is pointed to your F drive. My guess is it tried to install to a default location, probably C drive.


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Message 973557 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 15:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 973554.  

Thank you both.

Download is automatic so I will need some assistance and guidance in reinstalling this file. Again, thank you.

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Message 973561 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 973557.  
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George, mine are all in the default location so it just went where it was supposed to. I'm not the greatest when it comes to things like this I just remembered seeing others with the same problem. Your best bet for getting help with this is to ask over on the Lunatic's site. They are a great bunch and are more than willing to help.

They also spend a lot of time on this site so you might wait and see if one of them stops by in here.

Ok, here is a link to your missing file http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;sa=dlview;id=130 Stop SETI and BOINC, open this file and place it in your setiathome file in F:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC. then open boinc manager. It should be able to find the file then and you should be good to go.(I hope.)

edit: The directory itself might be hidden by windows. I forgot about that, you may have to get windows to show hidden files and folders to find it.


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Message 973570 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 973561.  

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I followed your directions without any luck so I will post at the Lunatics and see what happens. I will let you know of the outcome. Thank you for your time and assistance.

2/23/2010 11:35:52 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.18 for windows_intelx86
2/23/2010 11:35:52 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2/23/2010 11:35:52 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
2/23/2010 11:35:52 AM Data directory: F:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
2/23/2010 11:35:52 AM Running under account Administrator
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 4]
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Memory: 1.50 GB physical, 3.35 GB virtual
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Disk: 127.99 GB total, 89.76 GB free
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Local time is UTC -5 hours
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM No usable GPUs found
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Not using a proxy
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM rosetta@home URL http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 1128680; resource share 100
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Milkyway@home URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 114662; resource share 100
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4955687; resource share 100
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 13-Jul-2005 07:57:01)
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM SETI@home Computer location: home
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Reading preferences override file
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 767.65MB
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1381.77MB
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Preferences limit disk usage to 63.99GB
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe not found
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM [error] No URL for file transfer of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 11:35:53 AM Milkyway@home Restarting task de_s222_pes_2_v04_449723_1266425500_0 using milkyway version 19
2/23/2010 11:35:54 AM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 11:36:54 AM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 11:37:54 AM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 11:38:54 AM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 11:39:54 AM SETI@home Backing off 1 min 23 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe
2/23/2010 11:42:06 AM SETI@home Backing off 2 min 46 sec on download of AK_v8_win_SSE_P3.exe

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Message 973572 - Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 17:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 973561.  

Problem solved, strange though. No changes made to PC and had previously installed Lunatic's program last year. No idea why it needed to be reinstalled. Oh well, computer gremlins at work. Thanks again!
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Message 973687 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 8:19:26 UTC
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It's a "feature" of the BOINC program that it sometimes deletes files that it thinks are irrelevant when its starting up. This occurs randomly and for no apparent reason. I suspect BOINC launches various processes when its starting and if these don't report back in the right order it makes incorrect assumptions and hoses the files

e.g. On a recent restart, one of my boxes deleted the CUDA .exe file and dll's, supposedly because there was no work for them, and then deleted a couple of hundred WU's that had been assigned to CUDA because there was no program to crunch them with. :-S

I've also seen it try to delete files but stop itself because it finds the appropriate "partner" file(s) in time.

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Message 973713 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 11:17:59 UTC - in response to Message 973514.  

Hi, I do not check BOINC, every day, it's supposed to 'check' itself and does a good job at it.
-[ snip ]-

Greetings Fred,

When I said I check BOINC every day, I was referring to checking my status and that of BOINC. I don't check it to manually do anything unless I have at least 8 WUs in the queue waiting to report. I can also see if there is a problem that is happening on other than my end, such as this last comm problem SETI experienced. If I see a problem and it's not on my end, I come to these fora to see if there is any information, that is if there is a connection to their website.

I agree in that BOINC does a good job of checking itself. I have watched BOINC's evolution since mid-04. It has been doing nothing but improving.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Message 973717 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 11:29:56 UTC
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Greetings Pappa,

I seem to be stuck in a time loop or something. I have noticed that threads and posts are not being marked as read, once that have been. I re-load the page, posts stay "un-read". I go out to the menu(s), come back in and threads and posts are still marked as "un-read".

I forget who it was that was doing the work on the forum software, for some reason the name Rom popped into my head just now. I do not remember there being a setting, on the user side, to allow or dis-allow posts/threads to be marked as read when leaving these fora. I will look at my settings once I have posted this.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

[edit] I have also noticed that when clicking the post message button, the page re-loads to the "first un-read message", instead of going to the post just made. [/edit]
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Message 973722 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 12:05:51 UTC - in response to Message 973687.  
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e.g. On a recent restart, one of my boxes deleted the CUDA .exe file and dll's, supposedly because there was no work for them, and then deleted a couple of hundred WU's that had been assigned to CUDA because there was no program to crunch them with. :-S

Not necessarily a BOINC thing. Windows will sometimes delete any active program in memory on a reboot as well, it will even corrupt it on drive if it can. Then on the other side of reboot, BOINC starts up and finds the executable corrupt, so it will re-request it for download (if possible).

Versions of BOINC since 6.6.5 will keep CUDA tasks associated to a CUDA device, even if the device isn't (physically) available. They will time out eventually, when they reach their deadline.
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Message 973724 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 12:14:24 UTC - in response to Message 973717.  

-[snip]-
I agree in that BOINC does a good job of checking itself. I have watched BOINC's evolution since mid-04. It has been doing nothing but improving.

-[snip]-


Hello Siran, probably browsing the forum-pages more then checking BOINC, cause
BOINC, when it's installed correctly and run's on a host which isn't used (much) for other purposes, seldom gives any problems. (At least on my host's)

Also remember, some time ago, alot of responces about the forums post and it's respons to a post just read.

Anyway, keep on BOINC'in


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Message 973726 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 12:29:03 UTC - in response to Message 973717.  

Greetings Pappa,

I seem to be stuck in a time loop or something. I have noticed that threads and posts are not being marked as read, once that have been. I re-load the page, posts stay "un-read". I go out to the menu(s), come back in and threads and posts are still marked as "un-read".

I forget who it was that was doing the work on the forum software, for some reason the name Rom popped into my head just now. I do not remember there being a setting, on the user side, to allow or dis-allow posts/threads to be marked as read when leaving these fora. I will look at my settings once I have posted this.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

[edit] I have also noticed that when clicking the post message button, the page re-loads to the "first un-read message", instead of going to the post just made. [/edit]


Thanks for this thought it was just me, usually after I have read the messages the icon disappears now it is staying there and I know that I have read them. The icon used to reappear if something new has added but says read if my message is added.
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Message 973843 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 19:25:49 UTC

The Database table that was causing the "messages or threads" to appear "unread" has been corrected.

If you are still having problems, I would suggest that you clear your browser cache, close it and reopen your web browser.

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Message 975547 - Posted: 3 Mar 2010, 19:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 972559.  

What cooling systems have the server? Perhaps even more cooling systems use?
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Message 975830 - Posted: 5 Mar 2010, 3:25:11 UTC - in response to Message 975547.  

What cooling systems have the server? Perhaps even more cooling systems use?


while I was gone, no one replied... There is an air conditioning system that feeds the server closet (yes, it is like a "Hall, Janitors Closet" that houses the servers).

If no air is flowing (cool or otherwise). Things go dead in a hurry.

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