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Dan Rhodes Send message Joined: 28 Jul 04 Posts: 56 Credit: 865,942 RAC: 0 |
Poor Upload servers, they are getting a right hammering! http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d Fingers crossed no disks go! D Cheers D |
Mikek69 Send message Joined: 18 Sep 04 Posts: 3 Credit: 175,782 RAC: 0 |
Interesting. WHile you lot were frozen out I was getting downloads on cue as WUs finished. Just the upload and reporting were a problem. Not now though, all gone :D |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
Have any of the path-pingers retried their packet loss countersOK, from Albuquerque, NM, during peak about four hours after the Cricket graphs rose to 90+ Mbits/sec 16/ 100 = 16% | 12 107ms 18/ 100 = 18% 2/ 100 = 2% 208.68.243.254 0/ 100 = 0% | 13 107ms 16/ 100 = 16% 0/ 100 = 0% setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.16] looks somewhat higher on this snapshot than during the outage. |
RottenMutt Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 1011 Credit: 230,314,058 RAC: 0 |
Have any of the path-pingers retried their packet loss counters I hope the put off the backup or just cancel it all togather this week. they have postponed a backup a day before, and that was a shorter outage. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Have any of the path-pingers retried their packet loss counters The last time they skipped it things were pretty ugly by the following week. |
Peter Moss Send message Joined: 15 Nov 99 Posts: 14 Credit: 3,434,017 RAC: 12 |
I have two 'zones' running SETI, at home and office My office has coped pretty well during this 'outage' and has pretty much been fully up to date UL/DL's, none pending even when I came to work monday. However my home system (PC better than in the office), which can run SETI (CUDA) still has 60 or more results stuck in the final phase of reporting - i.e. upload completed just not reported and does not appear to have since the outage. That's all of the WU's with no more coming in. So the routes peoples systems have to take to reach SETI may be the issue after all? At least the other projects are 100% ok, QMC, Rosetta, Einstein and Milkyway. :) |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14676 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I have two 'zones' running SETI, at home and office No - I think you'll find that your home machine hasn't even tested the network to SETI recently. This sounds like one of the recent features in BOINC has kicked in: if network congestion were really to have been the problem, there would be no point in adding to that congestion by continually retrying. The trouble is, no-one has thought of a way of getting the message "It's OK, the congested has cleared, you can retry now" through to a client which isn't retrying.... Just for your own information, have a look at the Messages tab in BOINC Manager to see if the home machine has even tried recently: and then go to the Projects tab, select SETI@home, and click the Properties button. I expect you'll see some high values for backoff times. Just click 'Update' once. That'll start BOINC communicating again: now that the backlog has cleared, your finished tasks should be reported at the first attempt, and you should get new work within a few minutes - there's not much available at the moment, but new work is being created continuously. |
archae86 Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 909 Credit: 1,582,816 RAC: 0 |
Have any of the path-pingers retried their packet loss countersOK, from Albuquerque, NM, during peak about four hours after the Cricket graphs rose to 90+ Mbits/sec Measuring again well within the first hour after the cricket graph dropped well down from the long high stable value: 0/ 100 = 0% | 12 54ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 208.68.243.254 1/ 100 = 1% | 13 53ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.16] so it may be that in some sense this signature is one of overload--but not of the primary problem of recent times. |
The Jedi Alliance - Ranger Send message Joined: 27 Dec 00 Posts: 72 Credit: 60,982,863 RAC: 0 |
The Cricket graph shows that Sunday night, 2010-02-21 from 22:00 to 22:30 PST there was very little activity on the network. The Berkeley router was still dropping packets at about 6%. Today, 2010-02-23 at 5:20 PST Cricket shows activity at 30+ yet there was 0% packet loss. Running pathping on a business in the same area who also happens to be a Hurricane Electric customer yields 0% packet loss. Do we have a faulty router at Berkeley? |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 |
Did run 2 pathpings, one from my laptop, which showed no difference. Also one from X64 host, same results, in packet loss. Although this host asked, after uploading results, 1 task and received 15. This host, contacts SETI, atleast a hundred times a day and this is my only CUDA-host. I'll watch, if this CUDA-host, does contact more times compaired to the non-CUDA-host's. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
The Cricket graph shows that Sunday night, 2010-02-21 from 22:00 to 22:30 PST there was very little activity on the network. The Berkeley router was still dropping packets at about 6%. Today, 2010-02-23 at 5:20 PST Cricket shows activity at 30+ yet there was 0% packet loss. Either that, or the person who administers one router has pings limited, and the person who administers the other does not. |
NoizBoi Send message Joined: 30 Jan 01 Posts: 12 Credit: 20,831,463 RAC: 71 |
Hey, Guess what... In spite of a lot of people wasting their time complaining about uploads/ downloads not working, inefficiency of an under-funded system, etc ad finitum the SETI crew sorted the problem! how many moaners contributed to this effort? How many SETI staff complained? If you have time to criticise others then you have too much time on your hands, use that energy to improve your own life and satisfaction. I do not mean to offend, just state the obvious truth. Perhaps, in future, people will be a bit more patient in this ever more complex world....... END OF RANT! |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Hey, Guess what... You left out the part about staff with 8-5 monday-friday jobs who were clearly working on issues on Saturday and Sunday. |
Sharpshooter Send message Joined: 26 Mar 00 Posts: 47 Credit: 5,127,861 RAC: 2 |
Rather than complain out there get up off of a few dollars, euros, pounds or whatever and help these folks out who day in and day out bust their chops for us. We can't be there to help them but our money can. So let's get some green stars up there and show Eric and the others that we are truly in there with them. I can think of little else that could be more help to them. S.E.T.I cannot live by computer power alone...it must have financial help as well. |
NoizBoi Send message Joined: 30 Jan 01 Posts: 12 Credit: 20,831,463 RAC: 71 |
Hi Ned, I accept your notice of my omission and agree. But Im sure they were also working past 5pm! These guys are dedicated and I take my hat off to them. I also praise you, Ned, you only offer support and advice within the community (without getting involved in bickering about connection problems, funding, etc). Phil H. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Hi Ned, Thanks for the nice compliment. No matter how much bickering there is, we have to live with what's possible. Short staff, not much funding for new stuff, and the connection is what it is. So, BOINC is designed to tolerate problems -- and where possible, mitigate them. ... and for the most part, it works well. If you can sit back and watch when you're sure it's doing the wrong thing, you might even see that it works well. While we don't see Matt, or Eric, or Jeff saying "we're working on it" at 11:00pm on a Saturday, we can often tell that something is being done. |
Gauli Send message Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 1 Credit: 7,640,671 RAC: 0 |
oh comeon : / give me some work to do : / sometimes a download, but no upload the last days my computers needing some work : D |
jjwhalen Send message Joined: 13 Jul 99 Posts: 8 Credit: 923,128 RAC: 0 |
oh comeon : / give me some work to do : / Gauli: There are dozens of BOINC projects out there whose servers are up, Internet connections wide open, and have more work than you could crunch on a thousand computers;) Best wishes:) |
doublechaz Send message Joined: 17 Nov 00 Posts: 90 Credit: 76,455,865 RAC: 735 |
Some people don't like it that way. They seem to take it like telling them the week after they get divorced that there are other women. Personally, I'm single so I like other women. ;) |
S@NL - BuddyWolly Send message Joined: 31 May 99 Posts: 19 Credit: 8,523,679 RAC: 1 |
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