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Message 972345 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 17:48:48 UTC

When SETI is broken the ET World breathes a sigh of relief. Besides laughing their whatevers off.

As a TOP CLASSIC CONTRIBUTOR I used to get so MAD when I couldn't crunch. LOL. Boy, was I a sick puppy then.

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Message 972373 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 18:37:44 UTC - in response to Message 972332.  

You guys DO all know that Seti staff members are all crunchers as well, right? I'm pretty sure that all of them run S@H on their work and/or home machines. What you know, they know. Eric and I have stuff on our home machines we have been unable to upload as well.

I think it is so sweet that some of you crunch exclusively for Seti. (I do so as well, but for less noble reasons... I only do it because I have one small machine!) Please know that Eric crunches multiple projects himself. There is a great deal of mutual respect between users and staff members of the various projects. Please oh please do not crunch Seti exclusively if down-times like these affect your health and well being.

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Don't worry Angela, I can find something to do and I always do, Whether simple bookkeeping or a game or TV, I usually find something. :D
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Message 972375 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 18:39:59 UTC - in response to Message 972339.  

And please understand that my respect for you and hubby is immense.
But, as one of your top contributors, I have the right to complain too.


Being a top contributor does not grant one a right to complain. This is all volunteer, so regardless of how much work done or are doing, you are still no better than the rest of us.

Your right to complain is by merely being a volunteer. Don't try to raise yourself above the rest of us and stop acting like you're top cat around here.
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Message 972394 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 972375.  

Your right to complain is by merely being a volunteer. Don't try to raise yourself above the rest of us and stop acting like you're top cat around here.


In a free speech country (which the US appears to still be) everyone has a right to complain. That doesn't mean anybody else automatically has an obligation to respond in any way. Freedom of speach can include not speaking, especially when you are busy with something more important.

Angela, Eric et al, I hope you can see past the moaning and groaning we sometimes do here, and understand that anybody who really understands what is going on here has nothing but respect (and maybe a bit of awe) for all the SETI staff, and all the staff at the other BOINC projects that keep things together.

Meanwhile, while my uploads and downloads continue at a trickle, I'm off to enjoy some early spring weather here in the Great White North, and walk my dog. When I get home, I intend to sample the results of my latest visit to the duty free shop. Ummmm, Jamiesons....

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Message 972398 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:07:18 UTC

When seti is broken like now...

...I crunch GPU Grid.
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Message 972399 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:08:51 UTC - in response to Message 972394.  

Agreed, Bill. Unfortunately, for many Americans, it seems complaining about insignificant things means pushing for someone else to make you happy instead of finding happiness yourself.
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Message 972401 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 971880.  

I spend more time with family (including the dog) and working on my totally nerdy web pages.

And last night I watched Canada just barely beat Switzerland in Olympic men's hockey. What a cliff hanger.

Later Canada has to face the US, Prepare for de-feet. ;)


Nah, not the US, it is the Swedish team that has me a little concerned.


Oh darn, you beat me to THE milestone.
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Message 972402 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 972399.  

Agreed, Bill. Unfortunately, for many Americans, it seems complaining about insignificant things means pushing for someone else to make you happy instead of finding happiness yourself.


OMG, that sounds so Canadian!

Up here, almost all complaints end with ".. and why isn't the government doing something?"

And if the government does do something, then they complain about high taxes. Really leaves you in despair for humankind. Or at least Canuck-kind.

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Message 972404 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:14:43 UTC - in response to Message 972375.  

And please understand that my respect for you and hubby is immense.
But, as one of your top contributors, I have the right to complain too.


Being a top contributor does not grant one a right to complain. This is all volunteer, so regardless of how much work done or are doing, you are still no better than the rest of us.

Your right to complain is by merely being a volunteer. Don't try to raise yourself above the rest of us and stop acting like you're top cat around here.

My right to complain loud and long is validated by me willingness to stay here.
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Message 972411 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:21:55 UTC - in response to Message 972404.  

My right to complain loud and long is validated by me willingness to stay here.


Your call is really important to us, but all our operators are busy right now. Please stay on the line ....

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Message 972417 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:27:56 UTC

Complaining about complaining is still complaining.
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Message 972419 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:34:08 UTC - in response to Message 972417.  
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Complaining about complaining is still complaining.


Complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

And besides, I was commenting, not complaining. And before somebody else posts it:

Commenting about complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

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Message 972420 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:35:28 UTC

A guy joins a monastery and takes a vow of silence: he’s allowed to say two words every seven years. After the first seven years, the elders bring him in and ask for his two words. "Cold floors," he says. They nod and send him away. Seven more years pass. They bring him back in and ask for his two words. He clears his throats and says, "Bad food." They nod and send him away. Seven more years pass. They bring him in for his two words. "I quit," he says. "That’s not surprising," the elders say. "You’ve done nothing but complain since you got here."
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Message 972422 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 19:40:02 UTC - in response to Message 972420.  

A guy joins a monastery and takes a vow of silence: he’s allowed to say two words every seven years. After the first seven years, the elders bring him in and ask for his two words. "Cold floors," he says. They nod and send him away. Seven more years pass. They bring him back in and ask for his two words. He clears his throats and says, "Bad food." They nod and send him away. Seven more years pass. They bring him in for his two words. "I quit," he says. "That’s not surprising," the elders say. "You’ve done nothing but complain since you got here."


:D

I've heard this joke before, and it seems very apt right now. :)
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Message 972435 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 20:41:32 UTC

My life changes very little when SETI is down. I have a backup project to keep things running and I don't play around with special builds so everything is setup and forget. The main way I know that SETI is down is because Safari has a favored web location set to the Cricket graph. If I had to spend time tweaking BOINC projects every day or week i wouldn't have them in my computer.
I find the forms interesting and if they are down, they impact me more that the crunching side of things.
What will have a big impact on me is our condo complex is being rewired and sometime in the next couple of months, our power will be out for 5 hours. I will need to go back to reading books or running on the laptop for as long as the battery holds out (4 to 5 hours if I am lucky).
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Message 972449 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 21:32:41 UTC - in response to Message 972419.  

Complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Specific statements of facts aren't complaints. Accusations to the contrary are rants.
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Message 972455 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 21:44:17 UTC

Not much changes for me when seti is down BUT I am uploading now :)




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Message 972457 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 21:46:18 UTC - in response to Message 972449.  

Complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Specific statements of facts aren't complaints. Accusations to the contrary are rants.


AHA! (pulls old debating club notes off of shelf, blows off dust)

How do we know your alleged "specific statements" are, in fact, statements, or facts? Why are they not simply accusations? Is this not a matter of perception and opinion? Why is your opinion more valid than my specific statements of fact? What differentiates a rant from a statement?

Can you quote specific references? Can I completely demolish those references?

Oh sorry, wasn't supposed to read that last bit from the notes.

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Message 972459 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 21:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 972457.  
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Complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Complaining about complaining about complaining is still complaining.

Specific statements of facts aren't complaints. Accusations to the contrary are rants.


AHA! (pulls old debating club notes off of shelf, blows off dust)

How do we know your alleged "specific statements" are, in fact, statements, or facts? Why are they not simply accusations? Is this not a matter of perception and opinion? Why is your opinion more valid than my specific statements of fact? What differentiates a rant from a statement?

Can you quote specific references? Can I completely demolish those references?

Oh sorry, wasn't supposed to read that last bit from the notes.

Debate team fodder you are not, Nor I.
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Message 972468 - Posted: 20 Feb 2010, 22:01:30 UTC
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Link here]HE was on the debate team......
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