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Message 1003804 - Posted: 13 Jun 2010, 21:23:56 UTC - in response to Message 1003800.  

Now that's a cool radiator! I checked out the EVGA Classified before I settled on the Rampage 2 Extreme. The only thing that stopped me was it wouldn't fit in the case I had. Since I had just bought the case, with the computer last August, I opted to use something that wouldn't look like I just threw out a whole bunch of money for nothing.

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And the price is good too, Yeah I might get two of them and maybe later a classified 200 as well, maybe.
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You may have already seen this, But... I'm looking at a motherboard that has lots of pci-e slots from EVGA, Technically EVGA says It's Classified, But Here's a picture anyway:

Just imagine 6 water cooled GTX470 cards(25A*6=150A), The 200 motherboard has a 1-1x slot, 1-4x slot(physically looks 16x) and 5-16x slots, Problem is, I'm thinking I'd have to use a case that can hold two psus and the Corsair Obsidian 700D/800D does not do this, So far only the HAF-932 that I have does this and only barely... I have the cash to spend(Just not right now, too many other important things to get done It seems, sigh), Besides the case needs modifying so that I can have 4 hoses exit the case. The two psu? Lets see either a 1600w or a 1500w for the main one and a 950w Corsair psu, Thankfully I've got a good enough case, It's too bad that the Corsair cases can't do what I need It to do and Corsair may not care for two psus in a case, So I have to put up with a cheaper imitation of the 700D/800D, The HAF-932.

Also I found this just for You and maybe Me, Who knows, It's a MagiCool XTREME NOVA 1080 Radiator and It uses 9 120mm fans.

Oh and the Rad above only costs $150 before shipping.


You know once you get to the radiator that size you might just as well think about getting one from a motorcycle or something. It might be cheaper. lol
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You may have already seen this, But... I'm looking at a motherboard that has lots of pci-e slots from EVGA, Technically EVGA says It's Classified, But Here's a picture anyway:

Just imagine 6 water cooled GTX470 cards(25A*6=150A), The 200 motherboard has a 1-1x slot, 1-4x slot(physically looks 16x) and 5-16x slots, Problem is, I'm thinking I'd have to use a case that can hold two psus and the Corsair Obsidian 700D/800D does not do this, So far only the HAF-932 that I have does this and only barely... I have the cash to spend(Just not right now, too many other important things to get done It seems, sigh), Besides the case needs modifying so that I can have 4 hoses exit the case. The two psu? Lets see either a 1600w or a 1500w for the main one and a 950w Corsair psu, Thankfully I've got a good enough case, It's too bad that the Corsair cases can't do what I need It to do and Corsair may not care for two psus in a case, So I have to put up with a cheaper imitation of the 700D/800D, The HAF-932.

Also I found this just for You and maybe Me, Who knows, It's a MagiCool XTREME NOVA 1080 Radiator and It uses 9 120mm fans.

Oh and the Rad above only costs $150 before shipping.


You know once you get to the radiator that size you might just as well think about getting one from a motorcycle or something. It might be cheaper. lol

Most still only have small and narrow ones, Unless one looks at the touring bikes, Their wide and in any case motorcycle parts, I'd pass, The 1080 is $149.95 or $167.24 with UPS delivery to My place and the radiator can have either 1/2" ID or 3/8" ID fittings.

    * High Performance Copper Fin construction
    * Brass Water chamber
    * Stainless Steel Mounting frame
    * Dimensions: 398x398x46mm (WxDxH)[15 5/8"x15 5/8"x1 13/16"]
    * 36 X M3 Screws
    * Weight: 4000g
    * 2 X G1/4" Ports


Besides this has places to mount 9 fans and It's already made for this purpose, Yet a motorcycle radiator isn't, As I think the fan It uses might mount to the frame of the motorcycle which isn't very wide in the first place, I should know, I'm still licensed to drive one and I used to, Besides they can be smaller and more expensive, I've bought motorcycle parts before when I had a motorcycle, So no I'll stick with something for the PC.

Another reason not to use a motorcycle radiator, Dissimilar metals=corrosion problems, They like to save weight on a motorcycles design, So they use Aluminum, No thanks, Not with copper blocks. Also the Engine blocks are and have been made out of aluminum for as long as I can remember, Since before 1980.
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Message 1004053 - Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 15:39:23 UTC - in response to Message 1004046.  

Well, I should find me a Sponsor, if I want to expand, by putting two Water-Cooled I7 + CUDA/CAL cards and MoBo, ofcoarse......

Still trying to sell a (family house €260,000.00) for 2 1/2 years, so much for Dutch economy!?...What a bummer....


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Message 1004171 - Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 21:11:42 UTC


I raised the shelf up high enough to clear the HAF-932 case with the use of a claw hammer after unloading the shelf(while the PC was on too), I put the plastic sheet for the 2nd shelf where the printer and the scanner in the tub to be cleaned as I have a spray shower head, the sheet is drying in the tub now.

I figured out how to get the front of the case off for cleaning, Just pull the center section off from the bottom in the front, To get the rest off means getting a phillips screwdriver out to remove 3 phillips screws in the top piece, then 6 more phillips screws for the side pieces(3 each), Maybe then the sides will come off easy. I'll still be able to use the vacuum cleaner on the top of the HAF-932. :D
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Message 1005449 - Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 0:52:09 UTC
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Ok I after some more cleanup and much struggling with mounting an Enermax 1050w psu in the top of the HAF-932 case, I had tried mounting the psu in the case in an upright position and the psu would line up when I had two hand holding the psu, But try and attach a screw to the psu and I couldn't maintain the psu inline with the holes in the case and on the psu, I tried with the case on Its side, that didn't work either as the same problem presented Itself, So then I put the case and psu upside down so that I could get the psu holes to line up, So upside down was It and that worked as I only had to lift the psu a little bit to line all the holes up. :)

Asus P7P55D Pro and an Intel i5 750 cpu, Only lacks cooling and ram,
I do have a temp video card, It's just not installed yet, everything
else in the PC is hooked up, the current Psu is a temp also, I did a lot
of cleaning, Dust was light, But there was a good amount of the stuff.


Also I'm going to equip this case with two psus, Both Corsair, One in the top will be the Corsair 950w TX psu cause It's about 6" deep vs the Enermax Revolution 85+ 1050w psu which is 7.5" long and this means I can install a PrimoChill Reservoir(2.125"/54mm deep front to rear), a Magicool 280mm Radiator maybe(142mm wide by 323mm long, the 5.25" drive bays are about 146mm wide by comparison), Two 120mm to 140mm fan adapters and two 120mm Delta 113cfm fans and the other psu will most likely be the Corsair AX1200 psu in the bottom of the case. I can put a 120mm Radiator in the back where the 140mm fan is of course and I might do that, Combined wattage will be 2150w and My 20A circuit will handle both at the same time.

I'd thought of getting an EVGA Classified 200 motherboard and use the EVGA instead of the Asus, But It means I'd need to modify the case near the top psu so that the 3 Rads(1080 each) for the 6 GTX470 Gpus could have a way out, But that means making 2 holes in the case, I do at least have a Cooler Master provided template, Question is do I punch and drill or what?

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Message 1005988 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 0:59:38 UTC
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I figured out I need to get a 7/8" Bi-metal hole saw to relocate the water cooling tubing exits while using two psus and a water cooled EVGA Classified 200 motherboard, But their not too expensive. Of course now there are 3 areas where I could drill 4 holes, two areas are next to the psus and one area is above the card slots on the motherboard, Hey Steve what do You think?

Of course getting a pair of rubber Cooler Master Grommets is not a problem either, Just about $19 before shipping as they come with a motherboard tray for an 830 case. :(
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Message 1005992 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 1:06:56 UTC - in response to Message 1005988.  
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I figured out I need to get a 7/8" Bi-metal hole saw to relocate the water cooling tubing exits while using two psus and a water cooled EVGA Classified 200 motherboard, But their not too expensive. Of course now there are 3 areas where I could drill 4 holes, two areas are next to the psus and one area is above the card slots on the motherboard, Hey Steve what do You think?

Of course getting a pair of rubber Cooler Master Grommets is not a problem either, Just about $19 before shipping as they come with a motherboard tray for an 830 case. :(


I just cut out everything I could. Your case is designed a bit differently. I used heavy wire cutters, and removed the grills on the back. I then had to file down the sharp edges, and even covered some with duck tape. Since it was the back of the case, I was more worried about functionality then asthetics. The original case had two grommets in it, but I found it impossible to keeep them in the case once I inserted the hoses. I guess it's do what ever works with your case, and can be accomplished easily.

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Message 1005996 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 1:16:04 UTC

I found it easier to remore whole sections rather than cut individual holes, The way I saw it, the more material I removed, the more air flow I had, plus, the less confined the tubes were. This helps if you have to remove your cards for any reason with the tubes still attached.

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Message 1006006 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 1:35:27 UTC - in response to Message 1005996.  
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I found it easier to remore whole sections rather than cut individual holes, The way I saw it, the more material I removed, the more air flow I had, plus, the less confined the tubes were. This helps if you have to remove your cards for any reason with the tubes still attached.

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Yeah I guess I could dremel the vent out entirely, As It would be easier than drilling 4 holes and there's not as much metal there as that area above the cards is largely just a bunch of holes anyway.

Found out the 950w psu is really 6.3" long, Doesn't leave much room for a 280mm radiator in the top, But I'll have to see when I get there I guess as It depends on where the holes are for the screws in relation to the ones in the top of the case for a 240mm radiator are located at, I'm looking at the Magicool brand as theirs is 142mm wide, of course two 120mm to 140mm fan adapters will need to used as the case has no provision for 140mm fans, But the case is set for a 240mm rad at least, so adapting a 280 shouldn't be a stretch as the 5.25" drive bay is 146mm in width.
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Message 1006009 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 1:41:10 UTC

I just recently had to buy a new sound card. It was a PCIe one, but when I got it, it wouldn't fit where the old one was because of a mother board heat sink. I had to relocate it in the third PCIe slot under the two hosed GTX 480's. In order to do that I had to remove both cards with the water blocks still attached. I was greatful for two things. First, that I had a wide aperture for the hoses, and second that it discouraged me from buying another 480 to fill that slot as I was thinking of prior to that. I have to stop some where before I run out of credit.

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Message 1006022 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 2:06:29 UTC - in response to Message 1006009.  

I just recently had to buy a new sound card. It was a PCIe one, but when I got it, it wouldn't fit where the old one was because of a mother board heat sink. I had to relocate it in the third PCIe slot under the two hosed GTX 480's. In order to do that I had to remove both cards with the water blocks still attached. I was greatful for two things. First, that I had a wide aperture for the hoses, and second that it discouraged me from buying another 480 to fill that slot as I was thinking of prior to that. I have to stop some where before I run out of credit.

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Not to mention room too, Yeah I hear Ya, I'd had a thought on the hole, Metal Shears, I have a pair that I bought a few years back, Should cut through the metal, I just need to get them out from where their hiding and see If I can get started without any drilling in that area. Cooking dinner, later.
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Message 1006079 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 6:00:11 UTC - in response to Message 1006009.  

I just recently had to buy a new sound card. It was a PCIe one, but when I got it, it wouldn't fit where the old one was because of a mother board heat sink. I had to relocate it in the third PCIe slot under the two hosed GTX 480's. In order to do that I had to remove both cards with the water blocks still attached. I was greatful for two things. First, that I had a wide aperture for the hoses, and second that it discouraged me from buying another 480 to fill that slot as I was thinking of prior to that. I have to stop some where before I run out of credit.

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Ok how this Steve?

I did have a small bloody sacrifice, As I got a sliver or two in My fingers, Had to get those out and clean up Myself and the shears, But I have a hole, It was easy to do once I got started, But It's still crude and a bit sharp, But some dremel action once I remove the motherboard and shield or remove a few other parts should do the trick that and maybe get some plastic edging material like what's around the cpu hole below the motherboard. You can see the metal piece I cut out by hand, My shop work in school all those Years ago came in handy, That and a pair of Wiss Drop Forged Shears(made in the USA).
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Message 1006179 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 13:07:21 UTC - in response to Message 1006079.  

That is exactly how mine is. I too suffered a sharp stab or two, but I got the job done. It gives you plenty of room, and it works great as long as you don't care about a case warranty... :-)

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Message 1006209 - Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 14:55:49 UTC - in response to Message 1006179.  

That is exactly how mine is. I too suffered a sharp stab or two, but I got the job done. It gives you plenty of room, and it works great as long as you don't care about a case warranty... :-)

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Yeah I did bleed a bit, But not enough to do more than a couple of punctures and a slight mess, all cleaned up of course(sorry ladies, No pics), Case warranty? Nah, this one was used, I found some edging at Performance PCs that should do, after I do some cleanup, Put the narrow filter(top of the last picture) over the part of the hole where the two hoses aren't at and that area is done. The Shears took maybe all of 1.5-2.5 minutes to cut through the steel, It went through the steel like a knife through cold margarine.
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Message 1007192 - Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 6:20:01 UTC

Ok I've decided to stick with the GTX295 for the moment as I know there are water blocks for It still, Both Single PCB and Dual PCB, My BFG is of the Dual type of course, An EVGA Classified 200 can hold 5 water cooled GTX295 cards(or 6 if all are Single PCB cards, But only 3 cards if all are Dual PCB cards).
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Message 1009111 - Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 5:18:43 UTC
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It seems My specs are changing a bit, But not too much, As of now their as follows:

Coolermaster HAF-932 Case
DEMCi-filters Dust HAF-932 filters(2 sets)
EVGA Classified 200 motherboard
Intel i5 750 cpu
4GB G.Skill DDR3-2000 Ripjaws ram
5-GTX295 cards(BFG, EVGA, etc for now)
Enermax 1050w Revolution85+ psu
Corsair 950w TX950W psu(for three 295 cards only)
Swiftech MCR-320 Radiator, 350pump & Reservoir(all in one, for cpu only)
Danger Den 1156 cpu water block(WBK-DN-TDX-1156)
1/2"ID Hoses(2 Loops) 20'?
2-Magicool NOVA 1080 Radiators(295 cards only, Same as 6-3x120 Radiators)
14-DEMCi-filters Dust(120x3) filters
18-Clamps
4-Koolance quick disconnect hose couplers
Koolance Adjustable Radiator Mount(Swiftech only)
Inovatech/Eheim 12v Pump(red version, 295 cards only)
1-Watercool AB-K Reservoir for Ehiem 1046/1048 pumps(295 cards only)
21-Triebwerk 120x55mm 88cfm fans
1-GTX295 Danger Den v1 Water Block
5-GTX295 Danger Den v2 Water Blocks


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Message 1009267 - Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 14:54:52 UTC
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The Problem is not to build a Hells Cruncher - with a EVGA SR-2, 7 GTX 295 and 2 6-Core Xeons
there will be a RAC of 200k possibile. But that means, that the BOINC Manager have - assumed
you choose a three Day Cache - to handle 5000-6000 Workunits! That high amount of Data
will slow down this Rig like Hell and make it unstable!
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Message 1009270 - Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 14:58:05 UTC - in response to Message 1009267.  

The Problem is not to build a Hells Cruncher - with a EVGA SR-2, 7 GTX 295 and 2 6-Core Xeons
there will be a RAC of 200k possibile. But that means, that the BOINC Manager have - assumed
you choose a three Day Cache - to handle 5000-6000 Workunits! That high amount of Data
will slow down this Rig like Hell and make it unstable!

I hadn't seen that problem in months, I thought it was fixed. Have had up to 6000 units and no problems here. Used to get the Boinc Communicating message don't think I have seen it since the .28 release.
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Message 1009271 - Posted: 28 Jun 2010, 15:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 1009270.  

Really? Sounds good. I don't remember exactly when it was - last Year or so. With a missconfigured
app_info BOINC downloaded 3500 Workunits over Night. I was unable to move the Mouse or open
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