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Message 966957 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 16:32:11 UTC
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My 2 cents. Go with the AsRock. While I love ASUS and have several, my fastest crunchers are actually AsRocks. For the money they are great boards.

PS: it get's you closer to a new kitty sooner.
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Message 966959 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 16:36:58 UTC

The Asus. For long term and continuous usage they're more reliable IMO even though I lost my Asus P5e after a bad bios update some months ago. Otherwise i'd look at the MSI GD-xx series. Those also support high freq memory.
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Message 966962 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 16:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 966959.  
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The Asus. For long term and continuous usage they're more reliable IMO even though I lost my Asus P5e after a bad bios update some months ago. Otherwise i'd look at the MSI GD-xx series. Those also support high freq memory.

Asus would send you a new bios chip, should be nothing wrong with the board. I had a van break our power pole in half during a bios update and they sent me 2 new chips already with latest bios. Surely would never get rid of board because of bad flash.
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Message 966969 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:02:26 UTC - in response to Message 966949.  

I'm trying to decide on a motherboard @ Newegg

1. DFI P55-T3eH9 LGA 1156 New


2. ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Open Box


3. ASRock P55 Extreme LGA 1156 Open Box


Numba 1. I choose cause It can handle 3 double width video cards and a pci wireless card that I have and It's the most expensive too.
Cost to Me about $190.30 or $46.50 more than #2 and $60.64 more than #3.

Numba 2. I choose cause It can handle 3 double width video cards, Although It will have to use an existing usb wireless adapter instead of pci(Boo) and It's less expensive than the 1st one.
Cost to Me about $143.80 or $46.50 less than #1 and $14.14 more than #3.

Numba 3. I choose cause It can handle 3 double width video cards, Although It will have to use an existing usb wireless adapter instead of pci(Boo) and It's less expensive than the 1st one or the 2nd one, It also has a 16x blue slot that stays 16x when the orange slots are filled(both orange ar 4x when filled at the same time, For Seti this doesn't matter).
Cost to Me about $129.66 or $60.64 less than #1 and $14.14 less than #2.

Note: on #2 and #3 I looked for a compatible pci-e wireless card that will work at 108G(non standard, Atheros chipset) and I could only find the D-Link DWA-556 and I don't think It can do 108G at all.


Choices, Choices, Choices...

Of course the Asrock can use Gskill 2000MHz ram(4GB/2 Black fins/$174), But not Corsair 2000MHz(4GB/Red fins/$259), The DFI can use the Red fins, But I don't know about the Gskill, The Asus I don't know about yet.

Mwave has the Asus board for $114
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Message 966972 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:05:09 UTC - in response to Message 966962.  
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The Asus. For long term and continuous usage they're more reliable IMO even though I lost my Asus P5e after a bad bios update some months ago. Otherwise i'd look at the MSI GD-xx series. Those also support high freq memory.

Asus would send you a new bios chip, should be nothing wrong with the board. I had a van break our power pole in half during a bios update and they sent me 2 new chips already with latest bios. Surely would never get rid of board because of bad flash.


I thought about it but didn't want to go through their tech support hurdles. So I just went back to using a p5ne. The p5ne works perfectly now and it's an Asus budget board.
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Message 966974 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 966972.  

If you still have the board I would get the chip, Asus is real easy to work with. They have always beed real good to me...Thermaltake.....that is another matter, won't buy from them again.
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Message 966976 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 966973.  

SNIP
Mwave has the Asus board for $114
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Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99
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Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....
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Message 966980 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:30:12 UTC

<<<------ Does not do product endorsements (mainly because no one pays me to do
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and besides that, i'm usually wrong.
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i vote against the DFI board. i haven't heard anything good about them in a long time and the newegg review isn't that good.

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Message 966983 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:43:22 UTC - in response to Message 966974.  

If you still have the board I would get the chip, Asus is real easy to work with. They have always beed real good to me...Thermaltake.....that is another matter, won't buy from them again.


I'll be updating to an 1156 board but if I decide to keep a second system I might try to get a chip for the p5e so I can use it with the ddr3 I have now.

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Message 966984 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 17:44:36 UTC - in response to Message 966975.  

But there are worse makers than Tt.


Like Ultra.

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Message 966994 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 18:01:45 UTC - in response to Message 966992.  

SNIP
Mwave has the Asus board for $114
Mwave
Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99

Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....

Hmm, I'll have to luck at Mwave as the Open Box is usually just a motherboard, the Asrock or Asus I/O shield would cost Me another $21.36 delivered to Me from ebay.

DFI:    -1
Asus:    2
Asrock:  2


I forgot to add in My opinion on the Asrock, But then the delivered price does help.[/quote]
My last open box was from Newegg board I am using and it came with only the board...Last one I got from Mwave did include parts and book but may have been a fluke, I would call them.
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Message 967018 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:19:28 UTC - in response to Message 966993.  
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But there are worse makers than Tt.


Like Ultra.

Yeah, It seems like they always make a flashy psu or something thats cheaply made.


All the magnets on my Ultra case door came off eventually :(

I just wanted to say that while I voted for the Asus I'm basing it on the hardware.. build quality etc. They're not without quirks and I've had problems with them. I've tried other mid priced boards that have cheap quality plastic connectors and board heatsinks that are loose so I prefer an Asus board for that.
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Message 967019 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:20:54 UTC

Hmmmm

I am running an MSI Eclipse gaming series board alot more expensive but quality components


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Message 967022 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:37:35 UTC

Since NewEgg has choices galore, wondering if anyone has thoughts on a technical reason why you might want to get a motherboard from the SAME manufacturer as your GPU(s)? EVGA for example.

Yes, it limits your choices significantly and bumps the cost some, but at minimum, they stand a better chance of having been design-time tested together, and possibly sharing some design advantages or nuances and/or component brand choices.

If the answers are tilted towards "no advantage what-so-ever," then does the same hold true about mixing GPU mfgs on the same motherboard?
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Message 967023 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 19:41:45 UTC

One of my R2E's was a Newegg 'open box' bargain.

And I got a couple of others before.......

Usually, they are refurbs from the vendor.
Sent back, run through the repair process, and given back to the seller to reship.

No manuals, no cables, etc.
But I always had enough of that spare crap around anyways.

And warranty was still OK on the refurbs anyway.

Newegg rocks when it comes to problems.......ship it back and you are good to go, in most cases. Never had anyone better at that.
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Message 967032 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:13:21 UTC - in response to Message 967026.  

SNIP
Mwave has the Asus board for $114
Mwave
Could even move up to the Deluxe model at your price....

I should have said this is with sales tax and shipping to Me, Except for the DFI which has Free shipping. The following is the cost of each motherboard @ Newegg before any tax or any shipping(if any that is).

DFI:    $174.99
Asus:   $124.99
Asrock: $111.99

Both in California so Mwave should still save you $10....I have been to Mwaves store and they were friendly helpful people in case you were wondering....

Hmm, I'll have to look at Mwave as the Open Box is usually just a motherboard, the Asrock or Asus I/O shield would cost Me another $21.36 delivered to Me from ebay.

DFI:    -1
Asus:    2
Asrock:  2


I forgot to add in My opinion on the Asrock, But then the delivered price does help.

My last open box was from Newegg board I am using and it came with only the board...Last one I got from Mwave did include parts and book but may have been a fluke, I would call them.

Ok I did look at Mwave and the Asus motherboard there which is $132.15 delivered, It has a 15 day warranty and just the motherboard, So that's out as It would be more expensive than the Asrock, However the Mwave price with the ebay part does beat the Newegg(30 day warranty I think) Asus price with the ebay part by $11.65, Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).

132.15 Mwave Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
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158.65

129.66 Newegg Asrock P55 Extreme
 21.36 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
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151.02

143.80 Newegg Asus P7P55D PRO
 26.50 I/O shield(price delivered to Me)
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170.30

I wouldn't use the store warrenty anyways, I would deal with Asus as they just send a new board but haven't ever had a problem with any Refubs or open boxes. I also have a computer store worth of spare parts...Not sure how dealing with Asrock is...Thats my main concern when buying open box.
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Message 967034 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 967026.  
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Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.
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Message 967039 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 967034.  

Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.

I have to agree, you are good at budgeting so save the money and buy all at once when you can as you may pay way less or get way more....
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Message 967045 - Posted: 30 Jan 2010, 20:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 967044.  

Of course the warranty from either place isn't too important to Me as the cpu and ram will not happen until almost a year later(can't be helped).




Then don't even discuss buying it now, you fool. (And I say that in the kindest sense of the word.)

When the time comes, there may be many different and better choices on the landscape.

Working yourself up about it now, or buying something that you can't even use for a year is just futility.

Give it a rest, my friend....give it a rest.

I have to agree, you are good at budgeting so save the money and buy all at once when you can as you may pay way less or get way more....

Yeah well I can't pass up a bargain, As It would only cost Me more later.

Never seen any part go up after a year, but you know best...
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Message 967122 - Posted: 31 Jan 2010, 0:08:27 UTC
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I'd vote for the Asus board. It, or one of the related P7P55D boards, is one I was considering before I bought the Gigabyte board for my HTPC. An option for your wireless network could be to get a USB wireless adapter, or a wireless bridge. Then the boards slots would be irrelevant.

Another option is just to wait for newer cheaper things if you are not planning to get things like the CPU till Nov.
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