Clarification: "shot in the back" is wrong...he was not shot in the back. He was shot once in the hand and once in the armpit.

We were in the neighborhood for dinner at Suz's sister's house tonight and I went down to his home (3 doors down) as he was out shoveling his walk. I told him congratulations.

Hi Blurf, I missed this story on TV. We didn't get a lot of Buffalo news in Thunder Bay (we do here in Burlington).

The news article said:

"The prosecution had said that whether Cervini may have been running at Scott still was not just cause for use of deadly force and that medical testimony had shown Cervini was shot in the back. Was the medical testimony proven false?"

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20091218/NEWS01/912180345/Jurors-in-Scott-trial-announce-deadlock&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

Cervini was shot twice: once on the extreme right side of his back, next to his armpit, and once by a gunshot that went through his left hand, chest and arm.

Sounds like the classic trick of a prosecutor out to taint the jury pool by labeling someone a back shooter when they weren't. He was shot in the side, not the back.

---

Clarification: "shot in the back" is wrong...he was not shot in the back. He was shot once in the hand and once in the armpit.

We were in the neighborhood for dinner at Suz's sister's house tonight and I went down to his home (3 doors down) as he was out shoveling his walk. I told him congratulations.

Hi Blurf, I missed this story on TV. We didn't get a lot of Buffalo news in Thunder Bay (we do here in Burlington).

The news article said:

"The prosecution had said that whether Cervini may have been running at Scott still was not just cause for use of deadly force and that medical testimony had shown Cervini was shot in the back. Was the medical testimony proven false?"

Also from another article http://www.examiner.com/a-2380194~NY_man_acquitted_of_manslaughter_in_teen_shooting.html:

"The 42-year-old Scott, who has a legal permit for his .40-caliber pistol, said he didn't intend to kill Cervini."

I'm not taking any sides here but it's hard NOT to kill someone who is shot with a .40-caliber twice. A .22 or .25 maybe - a .40 is a very deadly caliber. I own a .45 and would never use it for home defense. In Canada the laws are quite different about the use of deadly force - you're expected to run for your life out the back door than to get the 'ol 1911A out of the gun vault, if someone breaks into your house...

Take care

In Canada you don't have the Right to protect family and property? My dad was robbed at gunpoint and a few months later he died. I wish I had been there and could have executed my right on them.

---

Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons...
And no good credit hound!

Clarification: "shot in the back" is wrong...he was not shot in the back. He was shot once in the hand and once in the armpit.

We were in the neighborhood for dinner at Suz's sister's house tonight and I went down to his home (3 doors down) as he was out shoveling his walk. I told him congratulations.

Hi Blurf, I missed this story on TV. We didn't get a lot of Buffalo news in Thunder Bay (we do here in Burlington).

The news article said:

"The prosecution had said that whether Cervini may have been running at Scott still was not just cause for use of deadly force and that medical testimony had shown Cervini was shot in the back. Was the medical testimony proven false?"

Also from another article http://www.examiner.com/a-2380194~NY_man_acquitted_of_manslaughter_in_teen_shooting.html:

"The 42-year-old Scott, who has a legal permit for his .40-caliber pistol, said he didn't intend to kill Cervini."

I'm not taking any sides here but it's hard NOT to kill someone who is shot with a .40-caliber twice. A .22 or .25 maybe - a .40 is a very deadly caliber. I own a .45 and would never use it for home defense. In Canada the laws are quite different about the use of deadly force - you're expected to run for your life out the back door than to get the 'ol 1911A out of the gun vault, if someone breaks into your house...

Take care

Clarification: "shot in the back" is wrong...he was not shot in the back. He was shot once in the hand and once in the armpit.

We were in the neighborhood for dinner at Suz's sister's house tonight and I went down to his home (3 doors down) as he was out shoveling his walk. I told him congratulations.

---

Acquittal doesn't mean innocent. It only means that the prosecution failed to reach their burden of beyond a reasonable doubt. The defendant may have a future civil trial in store for him where the burden of proof is lower.

---

me@rescam.org

In any case, the kid wasn't armed and he didn't receive his due process that, by the way, is a constitutional right.

He waived that right. He waived that when he committed the second and separate crime of putting Mr. Scott in mortal fear for his life. Doesn't matter if he had a weapon or not. That is what the jury found.

I know you think there is a magic weapon like a phaser set to stun that a police officer can use to make every one stop without hurting them so the police have time to go in, sort it out, and cuff the bad guys, but that is fiction.

I notice that RCMP sent some 2000 officers across the border to a funeral. Good that Canada can spare 2000 cops for a day. Wish we could. On this side of the border we don't have enough cops to slow down crime at all. So we allow citizens arrest to save some government money. When there aren't enough cops you get reality like Eula Love.

---

Thank you Niko
I knew it was wrong but was too lazy to look it up.

In any case, the kid wasn't armed and he didn't receive his due process that, by the way, is a constitutional right.
No right wingers who support, enjoy and get all Chuck Norris tingley over the killing of this kid ever mention that small point.

---

I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

...

One kid was shot in the back and died at the scene.
Seems that the kid was a defensive back in football and felt more comfortable running at the shooter backwards, or he was a student of ballet and was running at the shooter while doing piroets.(not sure of this spelling)

...

LOL - good one Robert.

BTW - it's Pirouette (took Ballet as a kid)

Don't want to hear any Gay comments guys; still got the M82 :-)

Announced at 8pm EST...

Shooter is acquitted

I wonder if we will hear from the people here who had him hung before the trial?

A lynch mob doesn't hang around after the lynching.

What's to be said?
A man heard a noise outside on another person's property.
Instead of phoning the police when he saw what was going on, he armed himself and went after the kids stealing crap out of a car.

One kid was shot in the back and died at the scene.
Seems that the kid was a defensive back in football and felt more comfortable running at the shooter backwards, or he was a student of ballet and was running at the shooter while doing piroets.(not sure of this spelling)

If you are all pleased to live in a country where stealing crap from a car is a capital offense, who am I to say anything?

There's no justice like street justice. Think of the money your state will save in legal expenses.

---

I do not fight fascists because I think I can win.
I fight them because they are fascists.
Chris Hedges

A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

Announced at 8pm EST...

Shooter is acquitted

I wonder if we will hear from the people here who had him hung before the trial?

A lynch mob doesn't hang around after the lynching.

Announced at 8pm EST...

Shooter is acquitted

I wonder if we will hear from the people here who had him hung before the trial?

---

Announced at 8pm EST...

Shooter is acquitted

---

As of 7pm, the jury is in a deadlock

Why am I not surprised?


Once your friend is dismissed she is free to say anything, assuming she wants to.

[edit]Actually I'm not sure you should even know what trial she is on. In some places telling you could be enough to get her kicked off.

---

As of 7pm, the jury is in a deadlock

---

The presentation of the cases wrapped up Thursday and the jury is in deliberation right now on this previously-discussed case:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54565

I have a close friend on the jury and will pass along any information she can legally give me.

---