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Message 39387 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 11:13:39 UTC

I'm a complete linux newbie, but this thread convinced me that Knoppix was worth giving a try (particularly as I really want to have a go at cluster computing).

I have managed to get boinc/seti running, it downloads WU's etc. but when I type commands into the konsole (eg. -run_cpu_benchmarks) nothing happens. Anybody know what I am doing wrong? am I entering commands in the wrong place?

Any help would be appreciated!

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Message 39381 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 9:53:23 UTC - in response to Message 39371.  

> @Mr Quantum,
> I know the notes doesn't help you directly but...for the moment here
> reorganisation of my Linux machines - a complete mess - so I cannot
> immediately test things out for you. Nevertheless during the weekend I'll look
> into this.
> I shouldn't ask this but you logged in as root? URL correct? Adequate ports
> open?
> Suggest you also look in the unix/linux part of forum...
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> Long live the Pinguin,
> Greetings from Belgium ;-))))
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Dont worry, mr HP :)
I fixed up the problem and now the Slack crunches with no problem :) So, dont waste time on this case :)
Thanks for the suggestions - I had all these completed. The problem was with the lines in "client_state.xml" refering to the proxy. In fact the Berkeley's Linux section wasnt very helpful for me - I found the answer here (thanks Paul D. Buck). I even found a client precompiled for AMD cpus here - Im still very beginner and I have to learn many more things before I compile my own client.
Greetings :)

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Message 39373 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 8:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 39186.  

> Is linux really that much faster? Do you have to optimize to get benifits?
> I tried to get knoppix running, but could not get lan working.
> The dchp or whatever failed, then when I put I.P. in, my windows machine froze
> with a security error about ip broach.??
> So I need help on just getting lan working.Couldn't find knoppix forum. Maybe
> soon 4.05 will be fixed. Is linux faster at classic?
> Some links for dummies please!:-)
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@ Mr Voyager

1. You are no dummy! We all want to learn and are going together new paths...
2. I put some links into this thread to help/ answer some questions.
3. Linux may not really be faster unless specially compiled for your situation / machine / distro. Some guys here did put a recepie-link in one of the forum to specifically compile for more speed under linux.

Greetings from Belgium ;-))))
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Message 39371 - Posted: 23 Oct 2004, 8:27:54 UTC - in response to Message 39272.  

> Very helpful notes, thanks!
> lol
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@Mr Quantum,
I know the notes doesn't help you directly but...for the moment here reorganisation of my Linux machines - a complete mess - so I cannot immediately test things out for you. Nevertheless during the weekend I'll look into this.
I shouldn't ask this but you logged in as root? URL correct? Adequate ports open?
Suggest you also look in the unix/linux part of forum...

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Greetings from Belgium ;-))))


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Message 39272 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 23:56:39 UTC

Very helpful notes, thanks!
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Message 39230 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 20:08:59 UTC
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Repartition your hard drive in Windows without using Partition Magic, but instead starting up KNOPPIX and using a FREE REPARTITIONING Program from within Linux...

Repartitioning with KNOPPIX...<br />

Greetz ;-))))

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Message 39214 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 18:45:31 UTC - in response to Message 39211.  
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Where to get some info concerning KNOPPIX...
The tutorial has been translated from German to English :

KNOPPIX Tutorial...</br />

Knoppix Network boot floppy with GRUB
KNOPPIX Network Boot Floppy...</br />

How to install KNOPPIX on a Hard Disk
KNOPPIX Install on Hard Disk...</br />
System recovery with KNOPPIX
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-knopx.html"
Sorry through-clicking is diverted by IBM.

In Belgium some are working with KNOPPIX to make Clusters work
CLUSTER - KNOPPIX...</br />
Boot KNOPPIX from a USB Memory Stick
KNOPPIX Boot from USB Memory Stick...</br />
Remastering a KNOPPIX Cd
Remastering KNOPPIX Cd...</br />

Greetz ;-))))
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Message 39213 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 18:42:36 UTC - in response to Message 39211.  

Where to get some info concerning KNOPPIX...
The tutorial has been translated from German to English :

www.eleli.de/knoppix/docs/tutorial/english

Greetz ;-))))


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Message 39211 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 18:33:09 UTC
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Hi, nice Linux thread! :)
I need help with BOINC on my new Slackware 10.0 box.
First - Im very newbie in Linux, so please be patient reading it :)
I cannot make my BOINC client connect to berkeley. Im behind a http proxy (FreeProxy on a Win2k machine) in a LAN. This proxy doesnt require authentication.
First I added an environment variable "http_proxy":
-=-=-=- export "http_proxy=192.168.xxx.xxx:portnumber"
and I received error -113 from the BOINC client.
After that I followed the instructions here and added the lines needed exactly as are written - I received error -113. I tried many variants including this one:
[use_http_proxy]
[proxy_server_name]192.168.xxx.xxx[/proxy_server_name]
[proxy_server_port>xxxxx[/proxy_server_port]
[/use_http_proxy]
(the brackets are appropriate, of course)
All of them doesnt work - error -113. Already have nightmares with this -113 - lol.
What exactly I should do to make BOINC connect to the Berkeley servers? Thanks in advance.
P.S. I am able to connect Internet with any browser trough this proxy simply adding the address and the port of the proxy in the preferences of the browser.

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Message 39203 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 17:33:26 UTC - in response to Message 39186.  
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> Is linux really that much faster? Do you have to optimize to get benifits?
> I tried to get knoppix running, but could not get lan working.
> The dchp or whatever failed, then when I put I.P. in, my windows machine froze
> with a security error about ip broach.??
> So I need help on just getting lan working.Couldn't find knoppix forum. Maybe
> soon 4.05 will be fixed. Is linux faster at classic?
> Some links for dummies please!:-)
>

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Message 39186 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 16:32:57 UTC

Is linux really that much faster? Do you have to optimize to get benifits?
I tried to get knoppix running, but could not get lan working.
The dchp or whatever failed, then when I put I.P. in, my windows machine froze with a security error about ip broach.??
So I need help on just getting lan working.Couldn't find knoppix forum. Maybe soon 4.05 will be fixed. Is linux faster at classic?
Some links for dummies please!:-)
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Message 39183 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 16:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 39181.  
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@ Mr. arcturus : This info is very welcome thanks very much.

I myself tried the distro UBUNTU on a live Cd. (See link in the thread).
I've tried it out on a rather oldie (733MHz - Pentium / 256 MB mem / very small HD 1GB / old SIS AGP card). Had to do some fiddeling with the renewal frequency of the monitor but after that everything went reasonably straightforward...
Recognition of ethernetcard without problems and immediate afterwards direct and automatic connection via the ADSL line.
Nice desktop. I do like the Gnome environment...
On the same machine I've tried Mepis Linux same remarks concerning the timing of the monitor... Connection with the internet went straightforward too.

Other organisation of the desktop... If you like an empty uncluttered space UBUNTU could appeal to you.
I eventually plan to enquire a permanent install for both packages to have a better comparison than the ones on the Live Cd's concerning speeds etc.

Greetz ;-))))


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Message 39181 - Posted: 22 Oct 2004, 16:11:28 UTC

Earlier in this thread I mentioned Mepis as my choice for linux distro's, specifically SimplyMepis 2004.03 with kernel 2.6.7. Live cd option, an intuitive interface, plus excellent hardware detection for my via kt333 box, nvidia graphics, with athlon XP2100+ running @ 2250 with built-in nic and soundcard. Straight out of the box I pulled the following seti benchmarks ...

2004-10-21 20:00:05 [---] Benchmark results:
2004-10-21 20:00:05 [---] Number of CPUs: 1
2004-10-21 20:00:05 [---] 1167 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2004-10-21 20:00:05 [---] 2461 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

Then I ran across an excellent article on optimizing the boinc client specific to Athlon processors -

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?p=3076102&postcount=3

Following these instructions here are my new benchmarks ...

2004-10-21 20:45:16 [---] Benchmark results:
2004-10-21 20:45:16 [---] Number of CPUs: 1
2004-10-21 20:45:16 [---] 2122 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2004-10-21 20:45:16 [---] 3049 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

One heck of an improvement!

In WinXP I pull the following ...

2004-10-20 18:14:31 [---] 2148 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2004-10-20 20:45:31 [---] 4920 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

Hopefully Whetstones are utilized more than the other but nevertheless it's nice to see an optimized linux client compete.

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Message 38569 - Posted: 20 Oct 2004, 16:19:27 UTC - in response to Message 38497.  

> Fine, can you give us a link for download of UBUNTU Distro ?
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> Greetz ;-)))
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Try here and have fun ;)

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Message 38502 - Posted: 20 Oct 2004, 7:55:23 UTC - in response to Message 38025.  
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> Looks like I will be goin with Mepis, I like the look and feel of it. The
> forums have a lot of good suggestion as to how and when and why. So give me a
> couple of weeks and I will be MR linux also hehehehehehe.............
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> [url=http://www.mepis.org/ ]MEPIS LINUX yoooohaaaa[/url]
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Pascal can we get some echo on your first experiences with Mepis when you are wrestling through this one?
Should probably be intresting for a lot of folks visiting this forum.

Thanx from the Pinguin,

Greetz ;-))))

PS : Dowloaded yesterday Mepis, gonna give it a shot... Looks nice...

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Message 38501 - Posted: 20 Oct 2004, 7:51:07 UTC
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Perhaps some usefull info for intrested folks in the Pinguin story...

Some intresting Distros :

YOPER - Linux version (optimized?) for i686 processors and up
MEPIS - Ask Pascal for his experiences
KNOPPIX - See this thread
UNBUNTU - origin South Africa -

Greetz ;-))))




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Message 38497 - Posted: 20 Oct 2004, 7:39:08 UTC - in response to Message 38181.  
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> I'm gonna plug the Ubuntu distro...the liveCD works...nice kernal 2.6.8.1 and
> Gnome 2.8. I found out why some of the others would not network, this one did
> it out of the burner. I can't for the life of me seem to get the 'install'
> version to do it's thing, but i like what i see so far.
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Fine, can you give us a link for download of UBUNTU Distro ?

Greetz ;-)))


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Message 38181 - Posted: 19 Oct 2004, 9:35:08 UTC

I'm gonna plug the Ubuntu distro...the liveCD works...nice kernal 2.6.8.1 and Gnome 2.8. I found out why some of the others would not network, this one did it out of the burner. I can't for the life of me seem to get the 'install' version to do it's thing, but i like what i see so far.
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Message 38025 - Posted: 18 Oct 2004, 23:23:09 UTC

Looks like I will be goin with Mepis, I like the look and feel of it. The forums have a lot of good suggestion as to how and when and why. So give me a couple of weeks and I will be MR linux also hehehehehehe.............


[url=http://www.mepis.org/ ]MEPIS LINUX yoooohaaaa[/url]
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Message 37812 - Posted: 18 Oct 2004, 5:17:39 UTC - in response to Message 37727.  
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> Have a lot of fun!
>
I do have fun and time thanks, otherwise I would not be here.
Thanks for the info, but I'm not a first time Linux user - I happened to be there long way before (round the late eighties with Yggdrasyl on a 80386)...This was practically a commandline version with X on top.

I use(d) SUSE v9.1, RedHat, Caldera package, etc. we were really looking at something autostart from ONE Cd to be taken to every machine and up and running in a couple of minutes...on practical no harddrive or minimal harddrive.

In my experience that is KNOPPIX for the moment.
And yes I do build my own computers (you could say I build Ferrari's on demand), actually with the best ingredients at the lowest possible cost. Cost reduction is principally done by not bying any software.

I did grew up years ago in a very techie environment (engineers department of the uni) where everything ran on UNIX...

Greetings ;-))))



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