Knoppix is probably the best well known of the LiveCD versions of linux, but there are many others to try. SuSe also do a LiveCD (version 9.1) as do Sun for their Java Desktop System (actually Linux, not really Java at all).

With the Windows seti client currently being so painfully slow (version 4.05), running boinc/seti on linux actually makes a lot of sense as you can cut your processing times significantly (linux still uses the older and faster 4.02 seti client, but sshhh, don't tell anybody!). These LiveCD versions makes it a very painless experience for those with no linux experience.

Keep preaching the word Mr Linux, they will all come round in the end I'm sure :)

Regards,

Ned

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I didn't. it wouldn't communicate with the outside world . I happen to (gasp!) like Gnome, and i like the look and feel of Morphix. It has issues w/ networking, but i can and will refine it till it works. Knoppix is nice, detected my hardware, and generally worked out of the box (or burner). Knoppix 3.7 is available, but defaults to german. (lang=us works).

lots of people looking for a new OS now.

> if you like knoppix you're gonna luv mepis
>
> http://www.mepis.org
>

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> if you like knoppix you're gonna luv mepis
>
> http://www.mepis.org

Thank you I will shurely look into it!
Sorry for doing some evangelism on this pages...(due to ethusiasm...)

Greetings from Belgium ;-))))

if you like knoppix you're gonna luv mepis

http://www.mepis.org

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> MY beloved Windoze has 7 more faults and I, god forbid, am thinking about
> joining the DOS on Steriods revolution called LINUX......
>

Dear friend and Seti-fellow Pascal, illustrious and humorfully inspired person of this forum, lightening up often some of the more heavy discussions on this forum... (Note: This is not meant ironically) THOU ARE NOT RISKING ANYTHING when giving linux a try by using the KNOPPIX Cd.

I will give you a little push in the back...

What do you have to do to get started ?
Follow the guide ....

1. Go to the website http://www.knoppix.de/
2. Visitors can choose between different languages, if you want click on the Anglo-American flag.
3. Go to the download section.
4. Download KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso. Take care this can take a while, because it is dependant on the fact if you are on cable or not. This is a file of approximately 699MB, so be patient(via cable it took me approximately 12 to 15 minutes to download. Afterwards you can download the MD5 control file to see if the iso has been downloaded correctly. Additional FAQ and explanation files for the use can also be downloaded.
The MD5 check is usefull to veryfy if you have a faultless download of the full 699MB. This is kind of a control to get a complete and good working version of KNOPPIX.

5. Now you have to get a burning program working on your windows version like NERO, wich is capable to write autobooting Cd's from an ISO file.
(An ISO is actually a Cd contained in one track/file,...this has to be restored to the full workable Cd...).

6. How to burn the Knoppix Cd under Windows withe the program NERO.

7. The ISO is on your desktop, start up NERO

8. If applicable close NERO's wizard.

9. Click on -FILE- and then click on -BURN IMAGE-

10.If necessary change the file type to -All Files- (*.*)

11.Find the ISO - Imagefile (KNOPPIX_Vxxx.ISO and open it

12. Insert a blank Cd-R or a Cd-RW in the Cd Rom burner

13. Click on -Burn- (perhaps -Write-)

14. Watch it burn

15. Click on -Ok- if finished

16. Click on -Eject-

17. Take the Cd out of the Cd Rom burner

18. Restart your computer

19. Go into the BIOS

20. Change the startup from HardDisk to Booting from CDROM

21 Put Cd KNOPPIX in CD Drive

22. Acknowledge change in BIOS and startup....

23. From Now on al should go practically automatic if you don't have too exotic hardware.

MIND: A radiocontrolled mouse or keyboard required some thinkering all the rest PS/2 Mouse and keyboard should not give to much problems...

ADVICE : ONCE in a WHILE Read The F**k**g Manuals.

If you are satisfied, so drop me a humourous line.
Greetings to you all from Belgium, merely a grain of sand in the desert of our Milky Way.
Enjoy the wonders of a beautiful virtual desktop of four screens and choose eventually between KDE or GNOME

Bye and all the Best,

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> Quick question for you Mr Linux,
>
> Booting the liveCD of knoppix, presumably linux needs write access to a HD
> partition to run and store the boinc/seti files as it works. I assume a fat32
> partition would do just fine for this?
>
> Ned
>
You're right Ned, thanks for all the work done about compiling...
Suggest you pay http://www.knoppix.de/ a visit (website in different languages)

Kind greetings from Belgium to all Linux users everywhere, ;-))))
Long live the Penguin.

[EDIT]
PS Sorry answer too enthousiastic - will look again at this matter -
Possible small partition on drive in typical linux format - have to veryfy on this... But no problem to start up and work with, goes automatically...
Note : RAM disk is setup during install.
[End EDIT]

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MY beloved Windoze has 7 more faults and I, god forbid, am thinking about joining the DOS on Steriods revolution called LINUX......

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

Quick question for you Mr Linux,

Booting the liveCD of knoppix, presumably linux needs write access to a HD partition to run and store the boinc/seti files as it works. I assume a fat32 partition would do just fine for this?

Ned

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I use Slackware 10 and Vector Linux (Slack derivative) myself....

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Oh and starcraft actually does run under linux - just use a windooze "emulator" like Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) or Cedega and you should be running =)

But there's no need to keep this thread on top - eventually people will realize that linux is cheaper and is getting better and better. When you run linux you always get more than you pay for ;)

> > Knoppix does not play Starcraft.
>
> That may be, but after the experience I've just had with Winblows anything is
> better than M$ - I just installed those security updates, and since I was
> downloading Linux I didn't want to restart just yet. But the program pops up
> every 10 minutes asking you to restart, and sooner or later you are going to
> click "yes" by accident... what moron has made this automatic update
> "feature"?!? 5 hours downloading wasted :-(
>
If you have difficuties in downloading KNOPPIX try to download via someone who has cable access. THe +/- 700MB should download in plus/min 12 min.


PS: Who gives a damn about Starshaft, there are enough games in the Linux arena...
For instance the StarOffice suite and TheGimp (cost 0.00$) alone, are on their own worth to consider the crossing of the border towards another OS.

Greetz from Belgium ;-))))

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> I AM using knoppix on my old P3-500. It used to be my one and only 'linux
> box' and ran my stats site for several months until 1)I started getting a
> paycheck and 2) my update scripts started taking longer and longer as I
> started dealing with more data. Then I swapped the hard drive into a brand
> new system, leaving the P3 with no drive.
>
> Anyway, it seems like I'm having a slight problem with it. LHC@Home keeps
> erroring out on me. The units are reported as client errors and no credit is
> given (rightly so). It does have 53 credit so not everything is crashing. Do
> you know of any 'special' libraries that Knoppix uses that might cause this?
> I think after work today I'll try putting it back on seti and watch closely
> for errors there.
>
You should try the latest version or the experimental one to see if this gives any difference. I'm not running LHC anymore... For the moment I'm only concentrating on Seti.
I really wanted to bring KNOPPIX to the attention of others because of the possibility to use it on other machines even temporarily without disturbing anything...
But you could install KNOPPIX definately on your machine on the hard drive, possible could this make the difference concerning the problems you mentioned.
I don't know if you are handy with the German language, but you can find a lot of detailed information on how to install permanently on the hard drive at :

http://www.knoppix.de/

The author Knopper is an electronics engineer and you can reach him on this website eventually to ask more specific info.

I thought it a good idea to do some evangelism, because I'm really fed up with MicroShafts policy and pricing strategies lately... Even SP2 is not at all as it should be for GRAVELY OVERPAING custumers.(I'm running all the hard cash paid for versions, from 98 onwards to the latest professional...)

Greetings from Belgium and happy experimenting ;-))))

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> Knoppix does not play Starcraft.

That may be, but after the experience I've just had with Winblows anything is better than M$ - I just installed those security updates, and since I was downloading Linux I didn't want to restart just yet. But the program pops up every 10 minutes asking you to restart, and sooner or later you are going to click "yes" by accident... what moron has made this automatic update "feature"?!? 5 hours downloading wasted :-(

> Use a real OS.
> Get KNOPPIX - Linux on one simple Cd.
>
> Costs NIHIL. Enormous load of FREE soft on one simple Cd.
> Runs BOINC / Seti tandem.
>
> Runs everywhere without any fuss on practically any machine within minutes.
> Have your OS ready on any machine you encounter, without disturbing the hard
> drive or the original organisation.
>
> Have real freedom, give MacroShaft a run for the money...
>

Knoppix does not play Starcraft.

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I AM using knoppix on my old P3-500. It used to be my one and only 'linux box' and ran my stats site for several months until 1)I started getting a paycheck and 2) my update scripts started taking longer and longer as I started dealing with more data. Then I swapped the hard drive into a brand new system, leaving the P3 with no drive.

Anyway, it seems like I'm having a slight problem with it. LHC@Home keeps erroring out on me. The units are reported as client errors and no credit is given (rightly so). It does have 53 credit so not everything is crashing. Do you know of any 'special' libraries that Knoppix uses that might cause this? I think after work today I'll try putting it back on seti and watch closely for errors there.

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> I'm downloading it now, I'll see if it's faster at Boinc than M$ is...
>
It is maybe not faster but has a lot of convenience when you want to use some unknown computer for a couple of days without disturbing others work already on the harddisk.
You can download the iso and burn yourself the Cd.

Greetz ;-)))

PS : http://www.knoppix.de/

I'm downloading it now, I'll see if it's faster at Boinc than M$ is...

Use a real OS.
Get KNOPPIX - Linux on one simple Cd.

Costs NIHIL. Enormous load of FREE soft on one simple Cd.
Runs BOINC / Seti tandem.

Runs everywhere without any fuss on practically any machine within minutes.
Have your OS ready on any machine you encounter, without disturbing the hard drive or the original organisation.

Have real freedom, give MacroShaft a run for the money...

Greetz ;-)))))

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