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 hiamps  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 
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Cheers to Nancy Gohring of IDG News Service for reporting this story properly! Great story, I liked this part.... "One potential upside of the Niesluchowski case is that it might draw more people to look into the SETI program and potentially become involved, he said. Farber doesn't expect the situation to discourage people who are already involved in the project. "Anybody who is going to run SETI at all probably already knows enough about this field to sit back in astonishment" at the negative attention the situation is getting, he said." Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! 
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52 Aces  Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67
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Once more SETI@home is not about credits Nez did so much work == he is bigger credit hound ?!!! WTF! I never mentioned the word 'Credits.' I thought it was pretty selfish however to enlist thousands of machines intended for educational purposes into your personal itch project and greedy to affiliate them exclusively to a personal name instead of the underwriters. But since YOU brought up Credits, I think greed applies on that too, otherwise he could have: -- created multiple accounts. He did not, he wanted 1 collector. -- enlisted in multiple projects. He did not, he wanted no dillution of S@H Now then, don't get me wrong, I feel horrible for the guy. He lost his job in a difficult time, and thx to the news & criminal probe, he's simply not employable in this or any other professional field. Step #1 before bringing someone in for an interview -- Google their name. He's toast, just as Birdwell probably wanted (probably such that she can later point to herself as a tenacious pork cutter when she goes for that next job). With or without S@H, sounds like she was gonna kneecap him one way or the other. Sadly, adding S@H into the mix gave the story feet. ID: 952490 · |
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 
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Cheers to Nancy Gohring of IDG News Service for reporting this story properly! Not quite properly. However, the mistake is not with regard to SETI: Paul Allen, the Microsoft co-founder, has spent tens of millions of dollars building the Allen Telescope Array, a group of satellites used in radio astronomy projects and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Those are no satellites ;-) Gruß, Gundolf Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz)  SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours ID: 952494 · |
Raistmer  Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 
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But since YOU brought up Credits, I think greed applies on that too, otherwise he could have: Strange conclusions indeed. Then, you can call "greedy" pretty many participants, I in their number too. If I will have access to new PC I will: 1) install SETI under my own account, because it's much more easy to do this then to create new account. For what reason one will create multiple accounts at all ??? How using single accout can be attributed to greed?? Missed any logic here. [Actually, there is some perverted logic - for credit hound who envies for other's credits. But you rejected that your post was about credits - well, then there is NO logic. ] 2) install SETI cause it's the project I'm interesting in. For what reason one will participate in other projects if they don't attract this person?? And again, how it could be connected with "greed" word?? One can be called greedy just because he/she donates resourses only to project he/she likes and don't donate to others? What logic here?.... [ BTW, do you know that one of "super-computers" participates in Einstein@home? Probably they should register different account for each node to be free from accusations in greed... Just nonsense... And surely, join to each and every project in BOINC world, why they limited Einstein only. What a selfish behavior :P ] ID: 952498 · |
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52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67
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install SETI cause it's the project I'm interesting in. For what reason one will participate in other projects if they don't attract this person?? Oh, so *HE* was only attracted by Seti... you almost had me convinced those 4700+ boxes were personally his ;-) They are not. You just don't put a personal itch project onto 4900 institutional machines -- it crosses the line so blatently, and yes, I read his side here. I'm still left to wonder why he did it in the first place. So since you know so much, maybe you can tell us why he seemed to act so independently before losing control of the situation (albeit, those consultants seemed to halt the train damn fast, not sure why Nez was unable to, he's clearly very sharp). Blinded by exuberance to be sure, but ultimately it comes down to a flawed word such as irresponsible, arrogant, or naive. Or selfish, or greedy. Ultimately, S@H is a mere tangent to the case, Birdwell wanted him gone and simply put out as much supporting content as she could to achieve her goal. One day later, her new goal seems to be to renew her own contract ;-) ID: 952534 · |
kittyman     Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51524 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Now I am afraid that his own statements are somewhat incredulous....... "The computer software program that aids in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and was downloaded throughout the Higley Unified School District was not Niesluchowski's fault, he maintains. He said "another employee inadvertently copied that program onto an image that was then copied onto other district computers." He said he "disabled" the SETI@home program "long ago." However, "unbeknownst" to him, SETI@home "once again began to run on the computers" at four district schools. The district has 4,947 computers, and the program was downloaded on most student and teacher computers, including new teacher laptops, Birdwell said. Niesluchowski had been told previously by former Superintendent Joyce Lutrey to remove the software, but he never did, Birdwell said." I repeat...... "unbeknownst" to him, SETI@home "once again began to run on the computers" at four district schools." The head of IT did not know that a rogue program was running 24/7 on almost 5,000 computers under his watch???? Come on now, Brad.....who are you trying to kid here? "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." 
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Optimus Prime Send message Joined: 27 Feb 08 Posts: 5 Credit: 13,771 RAC: 0
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OMG what was that man thinking?....................putting seti on all those computers without permission...............everything else is fine by me.........lol ID: 952561 · |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
Were his activities known about by DA and seti. Yep! We do! Nez speaks up "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me 
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Misfit  Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0
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The current head of the SETI@home project said that participants are cautioned from using employee-owned computers. "Volunteer computing projects (and the BOINC installer) have stern warnings about not using computers without permission," said David Anderson, director of the SETI@home project. "It's unfortunate that NEZ chose to ignore these warnings. Hopefully, this example will dissuade others from doing anything like this." NEZ is the name that Niesluchowski, one of the highest-ranked SETI volunteers on record, uses online. Oh shame on you, DA. You didn't use the word "allegedly". Do you have proof that he was crunching SETI without permission (and thereby making you a breaker of your own rules cuz you didn't want to lose him as a cruncher), or do you have the cashola to pay out if Brad can prove his case? There is no information in his personnel record on why he was demoted in 2008. District officials provided the East Valley Tribune with his personnel record after it was requested. An administrative improvement plan was included from the 2005-06 school year. Personnel records are confidential regardless if it's in the public or private sector. There's a civil suit right there. Nez speaks up Ya gotta luv the comments from current/previous employees who are in-the-know; and others that are just common sense. me@rescam.org ID: 952646 · |
uwe   Send message Joined: 31 Aug 99 Posts: 124 Credit: 177,257 RAC: 0
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Ultimately, S@H is a mere tangent to the case, Birdwell wanted him gone and simply put out as much supporting content as she could to achieve her goal. One day later, her new goal seems to be to renew her own contract ;-) I like the comments part of that article ID: 952656 · |
AriZonaMoon*  Send message Joined: 26 Apr 06 Posts: 5556 Credit: 1,541,289 RAC: 0 
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As I have said before.. I think this is a very sad story. And the general case, to use others computers without allowance, Im against, yes! Yet - again - WE do not know what has happend. We can think what we want, but WE shall not judge him.. At least Im going to leave that for those who are entitled to.. --and again - no matter how "known" he is in here - a person is mentioned by name - and photo - and called a lot of things.. I dont know if that in fact is much better than anything else.. I really dont like to discuss people in person, that i dont know anything about.. But many want the allowance to do so - out of the need for - what? I hope we get to know the real facts one day. And then I`ll think mine.. and let it be with that. No shouting make it better - Aye.. just kick me. I have at least been in here writing. ;-)  ID: 953287 · |
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