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Message 944872 - Posted: 3 Nov 2009, 21:30:59 UTC

Some scientist are saying this is true. What are some of your thoughts on this subject?
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Message 944895 - Posted: 3 Nov 2009, 22:46:28 UTC

Here is a link to a discussion of the subject:

The lethal wave of influenza in 1918-19... was first detected on the same day in Boston and Bombay. Yet in spreading within the United States it took three weeks to go from Boston to New York.

Hoyle and Wickramasinghe suggest that carbonaceous cometary particles with masses of 4x10^-15 g that are captured by the Earth could provide a flux of biomolecule..

I don’t buy it. While it could be possible, there are too many factors against it and too many factors in favor of terrestrial sources. I tend to side with Occums razor. “entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem” (Latin, roughly translated as "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity"), and stands for the principle that "when you have two competing theories that have the same solution, the simpler one is the better."
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Message 944896 - Posted: 3 Nov 2009, 22:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 944895.  

influenza viruses are very fragile and dont last more than a couple minutes outside the body. When you see news casts of people disinfecting buildings its a show. Theres no real benefit. Influenza transfers from person to person through microscopic particles(spittle)that are inhaled and attach to the new victims mucousa.

School closings because of the flu. How dumb is this? so the kids go home or stay home then go hang out with their sick friends who proceed to infect them.


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Message 944898 - Posted: 3 Nov 2009, 23:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 944895.  

The lethal wave of influenza in 1918-19... was first detected on the same day in Boston and Bombay. Yet in spreading within the United States it took three weeks to go from Boston to New York.

How many days for the wind to blow it from the source spot to both Boston ad Bombay? Assuming it will survive that long.
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Message 944918 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 1:17:21 UTC - in response to Message 944895.  
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The lethal wave of influenza in 1918-19... was first detected on the same day in Boston and Bombay. Yet in spreading within the United States it took three weeks to go from Boston to New York.


The key word above is "detected". Not "appeared". Did people start looking at about the same time?


If I remember my university biology from oh, so many years ago, viruses are particularly attuned to living as parasites in their hosts, the result of eons of parallel evolution. If you believe in all that evolution stuff. So two questions come up:

1. How does a virus ready to live inside an earth creature evolve off the earth?

2. How does said virus survive in space without an earth creature host long enough to get here from someplace else?


I read the link to the panspermia site, which proves the nutbars are taking this seriously. Does anybody have a link to real scientists taking it seriously?

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Message 944930 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 1:51:32 UTC - in response to Message 944895.  
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Here is a link to a discussion of the subject:

The lethal wave of influenza in 1918-19... was first detected on the same day in Boston and Bombay. Yet in spreading within the United States it took three weeks to go from Boston to New York.


I had read that the Influenza of i918 - 1919 was probably traced back to the trenches in France. The first cases had all come from there on troop ships.


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Message 944932 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 1:59:01 UTC

Here is a Space.com story on the subject. Not supportive I might add.
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Message 944941 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 2:24:23 UTC - in response to Message 944930.  

Here is a link to a discussion of the subject:

The lethal wave of influenza in 1918-19... was first detected on the same day in Boston and Bombay. Yet in spreading within the United States it took three weeks to go from Boston to New York.


I had read that the Influenza of i918 - 1919 was probably traced back to the trenches in France. The first cases had all come from there on troop ships.

The 1918 flu may date back to 1915 but for some reason it didn't cause much damage till 1918. This is one of the reasons why they are so worried about the current flu. However the way this one is getting around, everyone should be somewhat resistant to this one before it mutates. This is a link to more information about it's history.
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Message 944955 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 3:20:56 UTC

When I feel I'm smarter than 13 Billion year old Mother Universe, I might have a thought on it.

Until then, my fellow humans(and possibly me) will continue dying, while The Brains comment on it, or as in the case of our esteemed Health Providers, try to save us again. Thanks for your work and effort.

Back to breathing in and hoping.

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Message 944956 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 3:24:46 UTC

When the aliens abducted me they injected me with lots of viruses and then programmed me to travel around the world.

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Message 953492 - Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 1:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 944956.  

When the aliens abducted me they injected me with lots of viruses and then programmed me to travel around the world.


It can`t be you cos that`s what they told ME . . . .

Or it may just be mother nature`s way of telling humanity that there are to many of us on this planet and trying to reduce our numbers.
the more of `us` there are, the more easy it is to spread with world wide travel.
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Message 953608 - Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 14:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 953492.  

When the aliens abducted me they injected me with lots of viruses and then programmed me to travel around the world.


It can`t be you cos that`s what they told ME . . . .

Or it may just be mother nature`s way of telling humanity that there are to many of us on this planet and trying to reduce our numbers.
the more of `us` there are, the more easy it is to spread with world wide travel.

Speaking of world travel, we should just dump all our bio hazard waste on Iran. :P
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Message 953644 - Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 17:56:37 UTC

I think, we need a new myth, legends and conspiracy thread. LOL


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