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Message 940338 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 8:59:30 UTC
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I can imagine the storm of protest when everybodies' iPhones went dead because their batteries gave out crunching Seti instead of waiting for incoming calls................

Let it rest. They are not up to the task. Meow.
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Message 940474 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 18:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 940338.  

I can imagine the storm of protest when everybodies' iPhones went dead because their batteries gave out crunching Seti instead of waiting for incoming calls................

Let it rest. They are not up to the task. Meow.

How is the battery issue any different from what your machines do to your electric bill?

Energy has a cost. If the cruncher wants to pay that cost (which may be carrying a phone with a dead battery) that is their choice. The phone user would still have to install BOINC and join project(s).

Just like some people will build mega-crunching, cryogenically-accelerated computers at great expense. That is their choice.

Wasn't that long ago that a 400 MHz processor and 8gb of storage was a top-end computer. Now that's a high-end cell-phone.
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Message 940489 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 19:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 940474.  

thats the second problem. An Iphone most likely wouldnt be able to complete any WU before its deadline. Its way underpowered for any real crunching use


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Message 940540 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 21:44:32 UTC - in response to Message 940489.  

thats the second problem. An Iphone most likely wouldnt be able to complete any WU before its deadline. Its way underpowered for any real crunching use

In my opinion, it's the only problem. The rest is up to the user.


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Message 940543 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 21:49:12 UTC - in response to Message 940540.  
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that and the need to constantly stay connected to a electical outlet.
that makes it a little less mobile of a phone


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Message 940553 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 22:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 940543.  
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that and the need to constantly stay connected to a electical outlet.
that makes it a little less mobile of a phone


You didn't get the memo? Cellphones are headed solar in the next few years. Although a good sneaker spring generator would do the trick today, or a-la-the-matrix, just plug the phone into your neck ;-)

There will be 138 million Netbooks sold this year, and all of them are quite happy crunching WU's with the binaries we have today, and I'm looking forward to Apple's introduction. Eventually, Netbooks will shrink down to the cellphone profile, and I think that is what ultimately resolves this entire thread.

If today's cellphone have a role for S@H, I think it's potential maxes out as a tab or two of Boinc in order to monitor project operations (either RPCs over VPN, or some other chatty alerting mechanism).
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Message 940566 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 22:33:57 UTC - in response to Message 940543.  

that and the need to constantly stay connected to a electical outlet.
that makes it a little less mobile of a phone

As I said, that's up to the user. If it only crunches while charging, that's good enough.

Distributed computing isn't about getting as many big computers as you can, it's about getting as many computers of any size as you can.

Saying "they're too small" is just chauvinism.
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Message 940582 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 23:02:11 UTC - in response to Message 940566.  

Saying "they're too small" is just chauvinism.


But saying they don't have compatible software isn't ;-)

In the race to find dev resources to do the S@H porting vs just waiting for the NetBook technology trend to be assimilated into cell phone tech, the later wins (is my guess).

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Message 940597 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009, 23:27:07 UTC - in response to Message 940582.  

who knows if the iphone would even handle crunching without overheating. it doesnt exactly have a cooling fan and large heatsink.

even if you grouped thousands of iphones together somehow into a cluster, they still wouldnt equal the computing power of 1 or 2 modern computers. so theres no real point in doing this unless you want to "just because"
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Message 940619 - Posted: 17 Oct 2009, 0:21:37 UTC - in response to Message 940582.  

Saying "they're too small" is just chauvinism.


But saying they don't have compatible software isn't ;-)

My phone runs Linux, recompiling wouldn't be that big a deal.

I'm not interested enough to try it, but again, we're ignoring the fact that there are more than 30 million iPhones out there, at least 1.5 million of the Palm Pre, and 8 million Android-based phones (more or less).

That's a lot of processors. They aren't i7's, but they're decent.

I have slower computers still doing production work (and paying their way).
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Message 940669 - Posted: 17 Oct 2009, 4:03:50 UTC - in response to Message 940619.  

exactly they arent even close to computing as a modern computer it doesnt matter how many are out there they just dont have the power individually.

Heck you only need a 200 mhz pc to run a simple linux OS this again is much to slow to complete anything at seti


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Message 940674 - Posted: 17 Oct 2009, 4:59:51 UTC - in response to Message 940669.  

Heck you only need a 200 mhz pc to run a simple linux OS this again is much to slow to complete anything at seti

How about one like this?

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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3384656

My first cruncher. I got it in 1995 and it has been crunching since Jun 3 1999. It's been through a few incarnations, Win95, RedHat5.2, WinNT4, WinXP Pro.

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