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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I can imagine the storm of protest when everybodies' iPhones went dead because their batteries gave out crunching Seti instead of waiting for incoming calls................ Let it rest. They are not up to the task. Meow. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
I can imagine the storm of protest when everybodies' iPhones went dead because their batteries gave out crunching Seti instead of waiting for incoming calls................ How is the battery issue any different from what your machines do to your electric bill? Energy has a cost. If the cruncher wants to pay that cost (which may be carrying a phone with a dead battery) that is their choice. The phone user would still have to install BOINC and join project(s). Just like some people will build mega-crunching, cryogenically-accelerated computers at great expense. That is their choice. Wasn't that long ago that a 400 MHz processor and 8gb of storage was a top-end computer. Now that's a high-end cell-phone. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
thats the second problem. An Iphone most likely wouldnt be able to complete any WU before its deadline. Its way underpowered for any real crunching use In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
thats the second problem. An Iphone most likely wouldnt be able to complete any WU before its deadline. Its way underpowered for any real crunching use In my opinion, it's the only problem. The rest is up to the user. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
that and the need to constantly stay connected to a electical outlet. that makes it a little less mobile of a phone In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67 |
that and the need to constantly stay connected to a electical outlet. You didn't get the memo? Cellphones are headed solar in the next few years. Although a good sneaker spring generator would do the trick today, or a-la-the-matrix, just plug the phone into your neck ;-) There will be 138 million Netbooks sold this year, and all of them are quite happy crunching WU's with the binaries we have today, and I'm looking forward to Apple's introduction. Eventually, Netbooks will shrink down to the cellphone profile, and I think that is what ultimately resolves this entire thread. If today's cellphone have a role for S@H, I think it's potential maxes out as a tab or two of Boinc in order to monitor project operations (either RPCs over VPN, or some other chatty alerting mechanism). |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
that and the need to constantly stay connected to a electical outlet. As I said, that's up to the user. If it only crunches while charging, that's good enough. Distributed computing isn't about getting as many big computers as you can, it's about getting as many computers of any size as you can. Saying "they're too small" is just chauvinism. |
52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67 |
Saying "they're too small" is just chauvinism. But saying they don't have compatible software isn't ;-) In the race to find dev resources to do the S@H porting vs just waiting for the NetBook technology trend to be assimilated into cell phone tech, the later wins (is my guess). |
CryptokiD Send message Joined: 2 Dec 00 Posts: 150 Credit: 3,216,632 RAC: 0 |
who knows if the iphone would even handle crunching without overheating. it doesnt exactly have a cooling fan and large heatsink. even if you grouped thousands of iphones together somehow into a cluster, they still wouldnt equal the computing power of 1 or 2 modern computers. so theres no real point in doing this unless you want to "just because" |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Saying "they're too small" is just chauvinism. My phone runs Linux, recompiling wouldn't be that big a deal. I'm not interested enough to try it, but again, we're ignoring the fact that there are more than 30 million iPhones out there, at least 1.5 million of the Palm Pre, and 8 million Android-based phones (more or less). That's a lot of processors. They aren't i7's, but they're decent. I have slower computers still doing production work (and paying their way). |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
exactly they arent even close to computing as a modern computer it doesnt matter how many are out there they just dont have the power individually. Heck you only need a 200 mhz pc to run a simple linux OS this again is much to slow to complete anything at seti In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Heck you only need a 200 mhz pc to run a simple linux OS this again is much to slow to complete anything at seti How about one like this? Avg. - Total 7.21 - 13,127 GenuineIntel x86 Family 5 Model 4 Stepping 4 199MHz [x86 Family 5 Model 4 Stepping 4](1 processors) Microsoft Windows XP Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3384656 My first cruncher. I got it in 1995 and it has been crunching since Jun 3 1999. It's been through a few incarnations, Win95, RedHat5.2, WinNT4, WinXP Pro. ... |
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