With new WU assignments I have gone from over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling.
As a result I'm about to pull the plug on my efforts for SETI. I guess I'll leave it to the megawu folks to do the work.

With new WU assignments I have gone from over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling.
As a result I'm about to pull the plug on my efforts for SETI. I guess I'll leave it to the megawu folks to do the work.

If credits is all that important to you then I wish farewell and good luck in your future endeavors. I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation. You could have just left without saying a word.

For the majority of Seti denizens credits may be fun, but are very much secondary to the goals of the project.

With new WU assignments I have gone from over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling.
As a result I'm about to pull the plug on my efforts for SETI. I guess I'll leave it to the megawu folks to do the work.

If credits is all that important to you then I wish farewell and good luck in your future endeavors. I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation. You could have just left without saying a word.

For the majority of Seti denizens credits may be fun, but are very much secondary to the goals of the project.

He has an important point, though. The collection of credits is a true and worthy cause. We know they have value because they can be exchanged for all kinds of valuable......

Oh, they can't be exchanged for anything, can they?

That's very different. Nevermind.

-- Emily Litella

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Interesting... since the chirp_resolution was decreased, my Pentium M needs on average about 20sec less per credit. One of us must be doing something wrong.

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MY RAC is low however I say that is because of the no new work item a few days ago, it is slowly picking up hopefully it will be around my old mark. However with longer WUS taking over 4hrs with an optimised version will it?

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With new WU assignments I have gone from over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling.
As a result I'm about to pull the plug on my efforts for SETI. I guess I'll leave it to the megawu folks to do the work.

If credits is all that important to you then I wish farewell and good luck in your future endeavors. I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation. You could have just left without saying a word.

For the majority of Seti denizens credits may be fun, but are very much secondary to the goals of the project.

Is true the goal of the project isn't pure credit collection but when i start the project was encouraged to crunch the major number of WU (rank and RAC statistics, teams, competitions etc). Today the project have enough crunchers and prestige to say "we don't need your WU is better if you go away". If this is the new spirit of the project I was very sad.

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With new WU assignments I have gone from over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling.
As a result I'm about to pull the plug on my efforts for SETI. I guess I'll leave it to the megawu folks to do the work.

If credits is all that important to you then I wish farewell and good luck in your future endeavors. I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation. You could have just left without saying a word.

For the majority of Seti denizens credits may be fun, but are very much secondary to the goals of the project.

Is true the goal of the project isn't pure credit collection but when i start the project was encouraged to crunch the major number of WU (rank and RAC statistics, teams, competitions etc). Today the project have enough crunchers and prestige to say "we don't need your WU is better if you go away". If this is the new spirit of the project I was very sad.

If a person's name doesn't say "administrator" or "project scientist" that means they're just participants.

My statements do not represent SETI@Home or the Regents of the University of California. Most of the posts are from crunchers just like you.

The original poster is unhappy because his credit isn't the same as it was.

We know that credit varies, and we know it varies for everyone. We know that dips in credit are followed by jumps.

... and we know that all of our boats rise and fall on the same tide.

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I permit to say this because is not the first time i hear it. I now the problems of the project (bandwith, data from arecibo, databases etc) but when hear after years of crunching

I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation

my blood temperature rise. I believe in this project and crunch for this reason.

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I permit to say this because is not the first time i hear it. I now the problems of the project (bandwith, data from arecibo, databases etc) but when hear after years of crunching

I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation

my blood temperature rise. I believe in this project and crunch for this reason.

Do keep an eye on you blood pressure, there is no reason to get agitated. This 'volunteer' obviously thinks that the credit received is more important then the project goals. The same type of sentiment is being expressed at the moment at Milkyway by credit hounds who aren't happy that the dev's have made an adjustment to lower the credits to be more in line with other projects.

Personally, I just joined that project for which I had a mild interest now that it has stopped the over inflated credit awards.

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Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470

With new WU assignments I have gone from over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling.
As a result I'm about to pull the plug on my efforts for SETI. I guess I'll leave it to the megawu folks to do the work.

To be honest, I'm lost on your numbers. When you made this post, your RAC has been about the same of 68. You mention "over 3000 WU credits a month to less than 2500 & falling"... so I'm rather confused. If you did have a RAC as high as 3000 to less than 2500 and falling, it would take you a long time to drop down to a mere 68 that you have now (longer than the few hours it's been since you've posted your message).

I'm really confused as to what's frustrating you.

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I permit to say this because is not the first time i hear it. I now the problems of the project (bandwith, data from arecibo, databases etc) but when hear after years of crunching

I'm sure you can find some other hobby/project that will give you just as worthless a validation

my blood temperature rise. I believe in this project and crunch for this reason.

[edit]Actually, you're agreeing with Aurora Borealis -- you say you believe in the project, and you aren't here just for the credit. I'm not either.[/edit]

Strictly for the sake of argument, let's say Aurora Borealis is completely wrong.

Note that under his name, it says "Volunteer Tester" -- that means he participates in the SETI@Home Beta or BOINC Alpha project.

Compare that to Matt Lebofsky or Eric Korpela. Under their names you'll see things like "Project Administrator" and "Project Developer" and "Project Scientist" -- what they say is official. They have an official role, and draw a paycheck.

Don't take what my friend Aurora Borealis says as representing policy.

In fact, don't take what I say as official in any capacity either.

I'm just another cruncher, just like Aurora Borealis, and just like you.

... and we're all just passing time, watching the rise and fall of credits, kind of like people watch the waves at the beach -- just without the waves, or the beer, or the pretty girl.

-- Ned

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My RAC has been steadily falling since the AP crisis a few months ago. I think the APs were exaggerating my actual RAC, and since they have been mostly gone (rather, I haven't been able to pick many up at all), the MB-only diet is still working on leveling out.

It has been pointed out before that RAC goes up quickly, but comes down slowly. I have a few inactive/retired crunchers that have not seen a WU in over two years but still have 0.01 for a RAC. I know that number is essentially zero, but it's..not.

I went from an all-time high of 6660.38 for a RAC in the peak of the AP domination era using r112 on four rigs down to a current level of 3486. I'm fairly confident my real RAC in perfect conditions should be very near where it currently is.

Point is, credits are basically meaningless. They are non-monetary, and serve no other purpose than to see how you compare to others. Sure, with many millions of cobblestones (I think..) you can buy an US$10 toaster, but is it really worth it? No.

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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

It has been pointed out before that RAC goes up quickly, but comes down slowly.

... but no one protests when RAC mysteriously goes up ;-)

I think for many (nay, most), the Credits & RAC are simply a fun way to keep private score, whether they admit it or not :-)

Seti is effectively able to print money for scoring crunchers, so as long as there is a credible baseline (the cobblestone gold standard or whichever) then like any good economy, the masses have faith.

True, there is no greenstamp trade value .... but not to say that bridge couldn't be crossed someday (similar to WOW and SL), probably under the Boinc umbrella.

How many folks would happily trade off from their Credit Scores:
-- 500,000 credits to name a star (& tie the registry into Google sky so people can see their star)
-- or 2 million credits for a limited edition annual S@H jacket patch or personalized autographed team photo?
-- Or 10 million for VIP grandstand seats for a shuttle launch or lunch with Paul Allen?
Don't have 10 million, Nooooooooooooo problem, you can buy up previously donated back credits from the Seti treasury thus assisting the Donation Fund. Economy software already exists, see LindenLabs and others. Boinc then becomes like MechanicalTurk (but successful).

... and back to the original topic, hang in there BOB MILLER !

Just like the stock market. Somedays shes up and some days shes down.



This is with all of my machines working steady & even adding 2 around the 28th when it's still falling.

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The credit drop goes for everyone here.. me also.., but what I don't understand is that you say your production has dropped.. your production seems quite OK:

and your RAC (red one) seems more or less stable?

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My RAC was going down almost 9k like two weeks ago, and now its going back to normal. But it was all on pending credits, so I guess its all a validation issue. Sometimes it goes to your RAC, sometimes it goes to your pending, but its all good crunched numbers.
Just in case, im happy to say I add a Q9550/GTS250 last month, and a new i7/GTS250 today to my farm :)
Both 24/7, so a big YAY to my eletricity bills.
I guess the numbers will keep increasing....

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My RAC has fallen off by half from over 6000 to now around 2800. I've had it....

Oh, wait.

It's my machines that are what's been off lately.

I joined many moons ago because searching for ET sounded like fun. It has been. Credits are interesting but only so much so as to see what's been happening.

The CUDA thing motivated me to go out and buy a suped-up video card just for the fun of seeing what it would accomplish for instance. Bottom line was that it did, and that was about as interesting as it got (wellll, the graphics improvement did kinda make me wish I'd been a little less stingy previously).

Bottom line is that credits should be a distant second in your reasons for wanting doing this. At least it is for me.

Regards,

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HAL9000 - if it weren't for the actual numbers up the side of the graph yours and mine would look almost identical, nearly to the very date.

The only thing constant? Change.

Regards,

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Well I can complain too. My RAC was up in the 70-80,000 range a couple of years ago. I'm down to almost at 10% of that now. But in my case it's mainly an economic problem. My buisness is building houses. Need I say more? So most of my farm dormant while I try to save on the power bill.

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It has been pointed out before that RAC goes up quickly, but comes down slowly.

... but no one protests when RAC mysteriously goes up ;-)

Homo sapien...

That is us...

Heehhh...

I don't care about credits! I only care how to make my computer go fast on crunching wu. So what has been done and what is being done by Dr. David P. Anderson + Dan Werthimer + Dr. Eric Korpela + Jeff Cobb + Robert Bankay + Matt Lebofsky + Dr. Kevin Douglas + Josh Von Korff is not useless.

Teamwork...teamwork...all my masters...please...