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wulf 21 Send message Joined: 18 Apr 09 Posts: 93 Credit: 26,337,213 RAC: 43 |
Maybe details will become availible when the RFI processing is done. Any idea how long that could take? Or is this process not automated, yet? In this case: Just take your time... |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Maybe these outages will get things moving here... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Maybe details will become availible when the RFI processing is done. Any idea how long that could take? Or is this process not automated, yet? In this case: Just take your time... If they needed help I would devote this i7's time to the cause. Maybe they need an app for that. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
Jon Golding Send message Joined: 20 Apr 00 Posts: 105 Credit: 841,861 RAC: 0 |
Great to see that the public face of the NtPCKr is back in action (as of Oct 13), complete with data, statistics, and much-improved waterfall plots. Things are looking up! Many thanks to all involved, especially considering all the other fire-fighting you have to do at the moment. |
Jon Golding Send message Joined: 20 Apr 00 Posts: 105 Credit: 841,861 RAC: 0 |
Now that the NTPCKr is running again, any estimate as to when we'll see some updated candidate stats? |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
I was wondering the same thing...It has been a while since new candidates have been posted. So is it not running again or are there just no new candidates to report? "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Jon Golding Send message Joined: 20 Apr 00 Posts: 105 Credit: 841,861 RAC: 0 |
Many thanks (to Matt, I guess) for publishing the Top 50 candidates. These all seem to be from the same part of the sky. I'm guessing that we'll be called on to do some manual RFI detection on these plots? |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
I just noticed the 50 candidates AFTER I posted my last message. Thanks also :) "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
Jon Golding Send message Joined: 20 Apr 00 Posts: 105 Credit: 841,861 RAC: 0 |
Oh. Well that was short-lived. Seems like we've reverted back to just 10 candidates now. |
Jason Safoutin Send message Joined: 8 Sep 05 Posts: 1386 Credit: 200,389 RAC: 0 |
Oh. Well that was short-lived. Seems like we've reverted back to just 10 candidates now. Weird. It still says 50 candidates, but only displays 10. "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3 |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
It occurs to me that the notion of persistency would indicate that we could eavesdrop on recurring emissions. It is not likely that we could detect emissions similar to our own very far out. In this region we will probably find no planet suitable for intelligent life. Time and telescopes may prove me wrong. I do not think that anyone would be able to detect the fact that we are here. They would be too far out. Therefore they wouldn't be sending a constant, directed high power signal from thousands (millions ?) of years in the past. It is more likely that a serious alien community (if one exists) would be beaming in random or promising directions an extremely high power "we are here signal" likely with no hope of receiving one in return. This would probably be a burst sent and focused in random directions. They would know that many thousands of years would transpire before a return could be received. The idea behind this type of signal is then to simply announce and affirm ( unlike a persistent one that we couldn't hear) that there is other intelligent life in the universe. I would think therefore that a single WOW-type event would be of more interest and would be more fruitful to possibly contain a signal that indicates intelligence. If we have searched with the current idiom for 50 years and have found nothing then one would wonder how many promising candidates have we discarded because they occurred only once ?? What do you think?? |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
What are we doing to be able to identify intelligence in a signal once we have pulled it up out of the noise? There are too many natural phenomena that produce a strong, constant and alternating signal in frequency and intensity. |
Michael John Hind Send message Joined: 6 Feb 07 Posts: 1330 Credit: 3,632,028 RAC: 0 |
What are we doing to be able to identify intelligence in a signal once we have pulled it up out of the noise? There are too many natural phenomena that produce a strong, constant and alternating signal in frequency and intensity. Will, would they not send a signal that is totally distinguishable from the surrounding noise. For "they" would be totally aware of the problems other humans on other planets will have in knowing if they have received a signal of intelligent content sent from another planet. |
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wulf 21 Send message Joined: 18 Apr 09 Posts: 93 Credit: 26,337,213 RAC: 43 |
The explenation is much simpler. They have no money to hire more programmers, so everything is developing really slooow. I'm not even sure if they have one full-time programmer on the project, maybe all their programmers are doing that only part-time. The top candidates somehow were staying the same without any new data for 4 months when the list was still continuously updated. Furthermore the last data for all of them was from the same day. So I guess the scoring algorithm was buggy, somehow preferring the candidates that have been watched this day. I highly doubt that the government has any motivation to threaten SETI projects. Usually they do quite the opposite: If someone accidently sees a secret military project, they rather have people believe in UFOs instead. But I'm optimistic. It looks like they're working on it right now. The server status page indicates that ntpckr is running and they temporarily turned off the public mode, so I guess they are testing several algorithms without us seeing possible buggy results and ntpckr creating hundreds of senseless signal discussion threads. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
WOW! 24 instances of ntpckr running! |
Marc Send message Joined: 1 Feb 01 Posts: 10 Credit: 1,149,488 RAC: 0 |
So is ntpckr dead? Last post in here was 2 years ago and all the results seem to stop a few years ago too.. Any sort of status update for this part of the project? |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
This should probably be included here as well. Q&A: What is the status of the NTPCkr? https://youtu.be/7uz1YUuE810 SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
merle van osdol Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 809 Credit: 1,980,117 RAC: 0 |
This should probably be included here as well. Since Nitpicker is not working yet; is someone or somegroup or somemachine at least scanning for signals which would just StandOut with a simplified looksee in case we are just sitting on a major discovery? Thanks merle - vote yes for freedom of speech |
Joel Lancaster Send message Joined: 24 Sep 13 Posts: 2 Credit: 447,096 RAC: 0 |
This forum is for discussion of scientific results as seen on the Near Time Persistency Checker Page. just wondering if any more wow's have showed up in any more finds by anyone? |
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