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Message 920937 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 5:31:28 UTC

I looked at the cricket graph and it looked really low to me (~30 for green, ~5 for blue) and thought "this is either really good, or possibly bad.."

Went and looked at the server status page and saw that AP ran out of tapes. Ah. That explains it. :p

Once AP runs out, and there is not a huge backlog of pending uploads, it looks like things should run very smoothly now with the double-length MBs and the fcgi tweaks in Apache.

Good job indeed!
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Message 920944 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 6:30:10 UTC
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I wonder where all the AP's went?
I have all the boxes ticked and ran the unified installer.
I have only had about 3 since they came out.
Someone sure will have a high RAC pretty quick.
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Message 920959 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 7:01:34 UTC

I changed over to a venue that has:

MB: no
ap: yes
ap_v5: yes
others?: yes

This resulted in a lot of "nothing available for ap_v5, sending work from other applications" and that being MB. Did manage to get one ap_v505 out of ~40 work requests. I changed back to:

MB: yes
ap: yes
ap_v5: yes
others?: yes

I just wanted to get one ap_v505 to see what my completion time is going to be.
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Message 920964 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 7:15:40 UTC - in response to Message 920959.  

I changed over to a venue that has:

MB: no
ap: yes
ap_v5: yes
others?: yes

This resulted in a lot of "nothing available for ap_v5, sending work from other applications" and that being MB. Did manage to get one ap_v505 out of ~40 work requests. I changed back to:

MB: yes
ap: yes
ap_v5: yes
others?: yes

I just wanted to get one ap_v505 to see what my completion time is going to be.


I think I should setup my machine 5018628 in a venue like that, but perhaps not enable work for others.

You might want to look at the task times on that machine too.
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Message 920973 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 7:37:17 UTC - in response to Message 920964.  
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I changed over to a venue that has:

MB: no
ap: yes
ap_v5: yes
others?: yes

This resulted in a lot of "nothing available for ap_v5, sending work from other applications" and that being MB. Did manage to get one ap_v505 out of ~40 work requests. I changed back to:

MB: yes
ap: yes
ap_v5: yes
others?: yes

I just wanted to get one ap_v505 to see what my completion time is going to be.


I think I should setup my machine 5018628 in a venue like that, but perhaps not enable work for others.

You might want to look at the task times on that machine too.

If you want AP V5.05 you have to set others to yes
ap: yes		This is original AP, probably none left by now,
ap_v5: yes	This is AP V5.03,
others?: yes	Required for AP V5.05, but will also enable MB.[/b]
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Message 921094 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 19:24:32 UTC

Not a panic, but wow.. nearly 400,000 in the MB ready to send queue..

Does that mean everyone has filled up their caches and the splitters are still going full bore? :p That's what the cricket graph would suggest.
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Message 921095 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 19:25:48 UTC - in response to Message 920973.  

I have all boxes ticked and still have no had any 5.05's
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Message 921102 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 20:02:02 UTC - in response to Message 921095.  

I have all boxes ticked and still have no had any 5.05's

The best way to get 5.05's is to untick the MB box but leave the "other applications" box ticked. That way, it looks for anything other than MB first and sends you MB only if nothing else is available. It still means 5.05's come through only now and then but they do come through.

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Message 921104 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 20:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 921102.  


Bit of a hiccup there- download traffic dropped away to next to nothing for about an hour or so, but it's come back up at full strength now. Also notice that for the last couple of days the newtork traffic has been rather bursty- periods of steady traffic & then it dies for a short while, then back up again.
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Message 921112 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 20:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 921102.  

I have all boxes ticked and still have no had any 5.05's

The best way to get 5.05's is to untick the MB box but leave the "other applications" box ticked. That way, it looks for anything other than MB first and sends you MB only if nothing else is available. It still means 5.05's come through only now and then but they do come through.

F.

If I understand the distribution, you've got about a 1 in 30 chance of getting an Astropulse work unit, unless you have an app_info.xml that simply eliminates all multibeam work.
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Message 921126 - Posted: 24 Jul 2009, 21:13:02 UTC

Both my boxes are full w/ MB work


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Message 921665 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 13:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 921126.  

Everybody seems to be happy here but I still cannot upload my results from PCs at work. I took the results on my USB key home and it uploded immediately.

This doesn't happen with other applications. They down- and upload nicely without any problem.
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Message 921672 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009, 14:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 921665.  
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Everybody seems to be happy here but I still cannot upload my results from PCs at work. I took the results on my USB key home and it uploded immediately.

This doesn't happen with other applications. They down- and upload nicely without any problem.


In work so I assume you have some sort of firewall. Are you getting any connectivity through BOINC to SETI at all - has something changed on the configuration of your proxy server? or have you lost your proxy details.

I suggest checking everything under your advanced/options menu.
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Message 921942 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 12:58:18 UTC - in response to Message 921672.  

It is funny.
- As soon as SETI queue is empty I can download freely but I cannot upload results. This started some 14 days ago(?)or is it 3 weeks already?
- This doesn't happen with other applications (Einstein, QMC, Cosmology). They run up and down without any problem.
- Yes, we are behind firewall but noting has changed. This is supported by previous statement.
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Message 921945 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 13:34:46 UTC - in response to Message 921942.  
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Understand now - different apps but all within BOINC.
There have been other discussions elsewhere about DNS caching problems causing problems connecting to SETI servers. Do your work machines ever get reloaded to clear/force load caches?
Do you get any error messages when the connections fail?
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Message 921957 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 15:04:55 UTC

I am starting to get http errors again before the wu uploads is there another small problem?
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Message 922002 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009, 23:28:40 UTC - in response to Message 921957.  
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I am starting to get http errors again before the wu uploads is there another small problem?


I would guess it is just too much traffic right now. I haven't noticed any uploads hanging here, but I could have just missed them too. One of my boxes did take a couple of times before it was able to report.

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Message 922082 - Posted: 29 Jul 2009, 9:47:05 UTC - in response to Message 921665.  

Everybody seems to be happy here but I still cannot upload my results from PCs at work. I took the results on my USB key home and it uploded immediately.

This doesn't happen with other applications. They down- and upload nicely without any problem.


Simple check...

What can You see if You do typing http://setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/file_upload_handler as URL address into your browser?

I see:

<data_server_reply>
    <status>1</status>
    <message>no command</message>
</data_server_reply>


It looks like a normal answer, firewall and DNS are working correctly.
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Message 922611 - Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 8:48:24 UTC - in response to Message 922082.  
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Interesting...
BorderManager says:

Status : 500 Internal Server Error
Description : Object Cache file creation error

Have to check. Thanks anyway.

To Questor:
I probably don't understand your question. Major reason is that BOINC messages are in Czech so I cannot directly compare wording.

After uploading results at home (status "uploaded") I bring results to work, I get status "confirmed" and I can download fresh units
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Message 922612 - Posted: 31 Jul 2009, 8:52:31 UTC - in response to Message 922611.  


Something's broken.
Getting lots of
31/07/2009 17:57:48 SETI@home Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)
messages. Had a look at the network traffic, and there isn't any outbound worth mentioning.
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