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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jul 09 Posts: 23 Credit: 15,847 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I don´t know if this is normal because I have joint SETI@home few days ago, but again i can´t send my progress to the server. Someone knows if there is any problem? ![]() |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I don´t know if this is normal because I have joint SETI@home few days ago, but again i can´t send my progress to the server. Someone knows if there is any problem? Yes, things are a bit overloaded at the moment. BOINC will handle this, you don't need to do anything to fix it at your end. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I don´t know if this is normal because I have joint SETI@home few days ago, but again i can´t send my progress to the server. Someone knows if there is any problem? It looks like in the last few minutes the data rates have fallen to 0. I hope that this is temporary. ![]() ![]() BOINC WIKI |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 12 Jul 09 Posts: 23 Credit: 15,847 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Thanks, Ned. ![]() |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The overloading condition at SETI is pretty much 'normal'. At the moment, the upload server is offline (according to server status), so nothing is going to get thru. SETI, more than any other BOINC project, has something of a ratio problem -- that is, the ratio of users to the upload/download pipe. As a consequence of this, there is a VERY narrow margin available and periodically, it gets REALLY congested. Periodically includes Tuesdays (when the project is offline for four to six hours for regular maintenance -- and then is very hard to get to during a 2x cycle as in 8 to 12 hours, as folks are in catch up mode), along with fairly frequent 'blips' in the process. Today is one of those blips. As there is really little one can do with it, Ned's suggestion, (of letting the BOINC client deal with it) is a reasonable one. Ideally you've joined multiple projects, so you can spread the CPU/GPU processing wealth as there are a number of other worthy scientific projects, most of which (at least at the moment) are not near to an overload condition, and so function more reliably. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 19 Jan 03 Posts: 205 Credit: 1,248,845 RAC: 0 ![]() |
So....why is the Upload server dead in the water this time ? I am TCP JESUS...The Carpenter Phenom Jesus....and HAMMERING is what I do best! formerly known as...MC Hammer. |
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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 233 Credit: 316,549 RAC: 0 ![]() |
So it won't be back up until monday? I can't download a thing because BOINC has reached it's upload quque limit. I've set it to make a 5 day cache, but it never fills it. Any way I can fool BOINC to request tasks? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 19 Jan 03 Posts: 205 Credit: 1,248,845 RAC: 0 ![]() |
PING: GRANT (SSSF) As per our Convo about SSD (in the previous PANIC thread...)? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=54633&nowrap=true#918896 You sir, are PURE Evil ;) ....LOL Thanks to you, I decided to investigate current prices and found a somewhat-mature model/revision of drives starting @ $120 CAD/each for Patriot 32GB SSD.....lol (so much for my 'under $200/each' buying barrier/excuse)... Tommorow morning, I will be on my way to the local retailer to purchase 3 of these to run in a RAID 0 to replace my current (150GB x 3) VelociRaptors RAID 0 array, as my main Boot Volume. My wife also thanks you and concluded that it's best she does not know where you live....lol Thanks for the 'push' in the right direction. ;) Allan I am TCP JESUS...The Carpenter Phenom Jesus....and HAMMERING is what I do best! formerly known as...MC Hammer. |
spinazie Send message Joined: 16 Jul 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 4,622 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I would say, make Boinc smarter, its rather "strange" that several work units in queue are sent seperately. Its waste of time and bandwith. Back in the old days we already packed messages in echomail networks ... just my 2 cents. |
Joseph Monk Send message Joined: 31 Mar 07 Posts: 150 Credit: 1,181,197 RAC: 0 ![]() |
PING: GRANT (SSSF) I have the OCZ Vertex, should check that one out too (cost about 140 for the 30G, but very good reviews on it). |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 233 Credit: 316,549 RAC: 0 ![]() |
When will Bruno be back up and running? Parent's edit-suite is running on empty. EDIT: I'm looking at the server status page. Bruno hasn't been down for very long, or some people have a back door, because I saw this: Results received in last hour 12,211 3 5m |
tulip Send message Joined: 13 Jun 05 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,271,290 RAC: 0 ![]() |
They should have a backup server... |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 233 Credit: 316,549 RAC: 0 ![]() |
They should have a backup server... The server is not the problem, look at some of the official posts. The problem is that they deliberately took the upload server down so that the pipe isn't clogged so that everybody has work for the scheduled full server downtime either tomorrow or Tuesday. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 19 Jan 03 Posts: 205 Credit: 1,248,845 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The problem is that they deliberately took the upload server down so that the pipe isn't clogged so that everybody has work for the scheduled full server downtime either tomorrow or Tuesday. If that is the reason, it's a pretty retarded one.... considering there are many of us who can not even get new work because of the back log of uploads that we must send before BOINC will ask for work. Perhaps if the UPLOAD:CPU ratio was changed to 500:1 from the current 2:1, I might have a chance of getting new work during this time of 'Network Un-Clogging' while I am sitting on 300+ failed uploads (although it doesn't really matter, because after 22 stuck uploads I am DEAD in the water, as I run 11 threads) currently on the machine that I am typing this message from. ...then it wouldn't matter if I had tons of uploads pending, new work would come in regardless ;) I am TCP JESUS...The Carpenter Phenom Jesus....and HAMMERING is what I do best! formerly known as...MC Hammer. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 233 Credit: 316,549 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well, the 2:1 ratio works very well outside of SETI. I can already figure out why that works. If you keep stacking work up, and it never uploads, it passes the deadline. All of that work is wasted. So assuming you have multiple projects going, BOINC would rather put your machine to a project that is working properly rather than one that isn't uploading properly, and is wasting your work. I think I read that this restriction is by project, so if SETI is gumming up it's own works, you can still get work from, say, Rosetta. just wish i knew what time this will be out! i will have no work for the outage at this point, and probably won't be able to upload for a week! |
![]() Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8964 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I would like to turn this discussion around towards a sollution. Bob--thank you for the offer. Please read this thread from Matt discussing the difficulties regarding setting up a "directed donation". Berkeley has restrictions on how it can be done. ![]() ![]() |
Eric Korpela ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 ![]() ![]() |
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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 19 Jan 03 Posts: 205 Credit: 1,248,845 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Nice.....HAMMER TIME ! I am TCP JESUS...The Carpenter Phenom Jesus....and HAMMERING is what I do best! formerly known as...MC Hammer. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Aug 08 Posts: 233 Credit: 316,549 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Now to get the tasks window back up.... |
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