Well,

let´s see what´s happening on this instead of crunching for nuts as the last days.

http://setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_alpha/download.php

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All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.

> More thoughts:
>
> 1. Increase in WU time... Hrrrmrmmrmmm.. I don't do any of the science/client
> development so I have no idea what changed from version to version. Of course
> the people who would know are both on vacation right now. I'll poke around. I
> do know that in the classic SETI home there would always be a public freakout
> when we released new versions that only contained non-science fixes. People
> would go nuts saying the new version is taking twice as long, etc., when in
> fact it did not. So I am a bit biased from dealing with this for years.
>
> 2. I should make clear that I'm not dealing with the file upload fixes, just
> reporting about them. Once again, my knowledge is limited on this front, and
> purposefully so - I have plenty other things to worry about (like getting a
> new replica database back up and running).
>
Matt,

Maybe a starting place to look: When the new 4.05 program is downloaded, a 5MB debug file is also downloaded (as part of the package?) Anyway, if 4.05 was compiled with a debug switch option enabled, it could cause a longer "crunch time".

Matt,

> 1. I didn't (and usually don't) post to the front page right away because (a)
> this is more of an informal setting so if I can be a little more "unofficial"
> with my posts, and (b) I get as many complaints about too much news on the
> front page than too little.

So, make an Official - "Unofficial" page ...

Seriously, I suggested this before, and you either missed it or are ignoring me ... (Is one leg longer now cause I been pulling on it so hard?)

Make a technical log page where you dash off notes like this ... that allows the accumulation of notes like what was in the old technical news ... most importantly, even small notes, like, mounted 23 tapes for splitters, checked log files, etc. lets those of us that are tryiing to tell people that you do more than sit in the lab and laugh at the posts in these threads ... (tho why we are now talking about clothes escapes me ...).

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> More thoughts:
>
> 1. Increase in WU time... Hrrrmrmmrmmm.. I don't do any of the science/client
> development so I have no idea what changed from version to version. Of course
> the people who would know are both on vacation right now. I'll poke around. I
> do know that in the classic SETI home there would always be a public freakout
> when we released new versions that only contained non-science fixes. People
> would go nuts saying the new version is taking twice as long, etc., when in
> fact it did not. So I am a bit biased from dealing with this for years.
>

On my machine the increase has been 2 hours from 4:22 to 6:22. From what I've read on the boards all users running 4.05 have had a similar type increase.

Some have speculated that some part of the debug code may have been left on.

> 2. I should make clear that I'm not dealing with the file upload fixes, just
> reporting about them. Once again, my knowledge is limited on this front, and
> purposefully so - I have plenty other things to worry about (like getting a
> new replica database back up and running).
>
Matt, I apreciate your thoughts It is helpfull...

We still need some info on what to do with our finished uploads. If the team members are on vacaition this could kill this project for quite some time.

Please find the person who is responsible for this part and have them give us some direction.....

Forever SETI
Timmy

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More thoughts:

1. Increase in WU time... Hrrrmrmmrmmm.. I don't do any of the science/client development so I have no idea what changed from version to version. Of course the people who would know are both on vacation right now. I'll poke around. I do know that in the classic SETI home there would always be a public freakout when we released new versions that only contained non-science fixes. People would go nuts saying the new version is taking twice as long, etc., when in fact it did not. So I am a bit biased from dealing with this for years.

2. I should make clear that I'm not dealing with the file upload fixes, just reporting about them. Once again, my knowledge is limited on this front, and purposefully so - I have plenty other things to worry about (like getting a new replica database back up and running).

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-- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person
-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

thx for boinc 4.12
works fine ;)

2004-10-12 00:26:38 [SETI@home] Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.21825.804838.87_1_0
2004-10-12 00:26:44 [SETI@home] Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.21825.804838.87_1_0
2004-10-12 00:26:44 [SETI@home] Throughput 5396 bytes/sec

http://setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_alpha/download.php

> To answer some questions:

> 2. Regarding long WU's, nothing changed in the science code (or should have
> changed, I should say), that would increase the length of analysis time. Bear
> in mind that analysis time varies greatly from WU to WU based on the quality
> of the observation (how fast the telescope was slewing, etc.).
>

> - Matt
>
Matt, I crunched over a hundred WU's on my laptop at 2.5 to 3 hours per WU. There were a few "quick one's" that took a minute or so, but none over 3.5 hours. As soon as I got Seti 4.05 and it's accompanying debug file, the units all crunched at 5.5 to 6 hours each.

Also, Seti Classic still crunches WU's at the same 2.5 - 3 hour pace.

I am merely posting my message log to aid in any possible debugging or whatever. Mine was failing uploads and then started working again Sunday morning around 7am it looks like.

--- - 2004-10-08 09:11:50 - Starting BOINC client version 4.09 for windows_intelx86
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 09:11:50 - Project prefs: using your defaults
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 09:11:50 - Host ID is 99069
--- - 2004-10-08 09:11:50 - General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2004-08-29 04:09:44)
--- - 2004-10-08 09:11:50 - General prefs: using your defaults
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 09:11:50 - Resuming computation for result 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.236_3 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 11:39:08 - Computation for result 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.236 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 11:39:08 - Starting result 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.225_3 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 11:39:09 - Started upload of 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.236_3_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 11:39:15 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 16431.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 11:39:15 - Permanently failed upload of 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.236_3_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 11:39:15 - Giving up on upload of 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.236_3_0: server rejected file
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 18:37:20 - Computation for result 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.225 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 18:37:21 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.141_1 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 18:37:21 - Started upload of 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.225_3_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 18:37:27 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 15502.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 18:37:27 - Permanently failed upload of 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.225_3_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 18:37:27 - Giving up on upload of 26ap04aa.7733.24145.411082.225_3_0: server rejected file
--- - 2004-10-08 21:27:34 - May run out of work in 2.00 days; requesting more
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:34 - Requesting 131429 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:34 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:37 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:37 - Project prefs: using your defaults
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:37 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.7
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:37 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.5
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:41 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.7
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:41 - Throughput 96894 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:41 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.5
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:41 - Throughput 97711 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:41 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.6
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:41 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.7329.978420.66
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:45 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.6
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:45 - Throughput 98125 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:45 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.7329.978420.66
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:45 - Throughput 94194 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:45 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.1
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:46 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.7377.642322.54
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:50 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.1
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:50 - Throughput 98543 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:50 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.7377.642322.54
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 21:27:50 - Throughput 98537 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 23:44:41 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.141 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 23:44:41 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.136_0 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 23:44:41 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.141_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 23:44:47 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 15325.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 23:44:47 - Permanently failed upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.141_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-08 23:44:47 - Giving up on upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.141_1_0: server rejected file
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 04:52:14 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.136 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 04:52:14 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.137_0 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 04:52:14 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.136_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 04:52:20 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 11568.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 04:52:20 - Permanently failed upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.136_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 04:52:20 - Giving up on upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.136_0_0: server rejected file
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 09:59:37 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.137 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 09:59:37 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.140_0 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 09:59:37 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.137_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 09:59:43 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 9845.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 09:59:43 - Permanently failed upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.137_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 09:59:43 - Giving up on upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.137_0_0: server rejected file
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 15:07:11 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.140 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 15:07:11 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.138_1 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 15:07:11 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.140_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 15:07:17 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 8664.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 15:07:17 - Permanently failed upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.140_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 15:07:17 - Giving up on upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.140_0_0: server rejected file
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 20:14:35 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.138 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 20:14:35 - Starting result 06my04ab.10554.5840.603396.125_5 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 20:14:35 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.138_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 20:14:41 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 9333.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 20:14:41 - Permanently failed upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.138_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-09 20:14:41 - Giving up on upload of 14mr04aa.17223.4418.236066.138_1_0: server rejected file
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 02:09:08 - Computation for result 06my04ab.10554.5840.603396.125 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 02:09:08 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.7_0 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 02:09:08 - Started upload of 06my04ab.10554.5840.603396.125_5_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 02:09:14 - Error on file upload: file_upload_handler: no filename; nbytes 16406.000000
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 02:09:14 - Permanently failed upload of 06my04ab.10554.5840.603396.125_5_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 02:09:14 - Giving up on upload of 06my04ab.10554.5840.603396.125_5_0: server rejected file
--- - 2004-10-10 04:35:05 - May run out of work in 2.00 days; requesting more
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:05 - Requesting 133180 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:05 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:10 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:10 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.203
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:10 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.202
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:14 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.203
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:14 - Throughput 100981 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:14 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.202
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:14 - Throughput 100555 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:14 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.199
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:14 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.189
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:18 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.199
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:18 - Throughput 101411 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:18 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.189
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:18 - Throughput 101844 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:18 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.204
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:18 - Started download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.206
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:22 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.204
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:22 - Throughput 100981 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:22 - Finished download of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.206
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 04:35:22 - Throughput 101411 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 07:03:18 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.7 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 07:03:18 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.5_1 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 07:03:18 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.7_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 07:03:24 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.7_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 07:03:24 - Throughput 4659 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 11:57:24 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.5 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 11:57:24 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.6_1 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 11:57:24 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.5_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 11:58:07 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.5_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 11:58:07 - Throughput 4199 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 16:51:44 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.6 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 16:51:44 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.7329.978420.66_4 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 16:51:44 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.6_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 16:51:50 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.6_1_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 16:51:50 - Throughput 4709 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 22:53:15 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.7329.978420.66 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 22:53:15 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.1_0 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 22:53:15 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.7329.978420.66_4_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 22:53:21 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.7329.978420.66_4_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-10 22:53:21 - Throughput 5460 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 03:47:15 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.1 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 03:47:15 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.7377.642322.54_4 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 03:47:15 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.1_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 03:47:21 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.18145.173580.1_0_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 03:47:21 - Throughput 4375 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 09:54:02 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.7377.642322.54 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 09:54:02 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.203_2 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 09:54:02 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.7377.642322.54_4_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 09:54:09 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.7377.642322.54_4_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 09:54:09 - Throughput 6937 bytes/sec
--- - 2004-10-11 11:27:18 - May run out of work in 2.00 days; requesting more
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:27:18 - Requesting 134843 seconds of work
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:27:18 - Sending request to scheduler: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:28:46 - Scheduler RPC to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:28:46 - Started download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.17
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:28:46 - Started download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.70
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:29:17 - Finished download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.17
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:29:17 - Throughput 12343 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:29:17 - Finished download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.70
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:29:17 - Throughput 12389 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:29:17 - Started download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.71
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:29:17 - Started download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.48
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:30:12 - Finished download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.71
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:30:12 - Throughput 6593 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:30:12 - Finished download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.48
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:30:12 - Throughput 6597 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:30:12 - Started download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.67
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:30:12 - Started download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.51
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:31:06 - Finished download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.67
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:31:06 - Throughput 6739 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:31:06 - Finished download of 01mr04aa.18860.2385.723592.51
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 11:31:06 - Throughput 6741 bytes/sec
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 15:58:01 - Computation for result 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.203 finished
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 15:58:01 - Starting result 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.202_0 using setiathome version 4.05
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 15:58:01 - Started upload of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.203_2_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 15:58:10 - Finished upload of 14mr04aa.17223.27073.1028384.203_2_0
SETI@home - 2004-10-11 15:58:10 - Throughput 5916 bytes/sec

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> Matt, I don't want to be a pain in the ass! But this is the biggest problem at
> hand for the users.
>
> I can handel the hardware probs and such we understand!
> But the upload failure (see below)
>
> Timmy
>
> October 9, 2004
> A problem with file uploads has existed for the last few days. This problem
> causes file uploads to fail. We now understand the problem and are working on
> a fix - it will probably require upgrading your BOINC client. Please stay
> tuned.
>


I am pretty sure that if you read Matt's post, you would have noticed that this is the exact issue that he says they are working on. Cut the devs some slack, they know and they are doing their best....

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>
> 3. I'm still not fully comprehending the fallout from the file upload bugs, so
> I'm not sure if you should abandon your current WUs or not.
>
> - Matt


Matt, I don't want to be a pain in the ass! But this is the biggest problem at hand for the users.

I can handel the hardware probs and such we understand!
But the upload failure (see below)

Timmy

October 9, 2004
A problem with file uploads has existed for the last few days. This problem causes file uploads to fail. We now understand the problem and are working on a fix - it will probably require upgrading your BOINC client. Please stay tuned.

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Thanks for taking time to keep us posted Matt !!

> 1. I didn't (and usually don't) post to the front page right away [SNIP]

We'll take our information any way we can get it. LOL

> 2. Regarding long WU's, nothing changed in the science code [SNIP]

The completion times have indeed increased markedly, for whatever reason.

> 3. I'm still not fully comprehending the fallout from the file upload bugs, so
> I'm not sure if you should abandon your current WUs or not.

Thanks again for keeping us in the loop. 3 of my 6 machines are now working on "bad" WU's with communications disabled in the hope that the results will be uploadable sometime.

Warm Regards!

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I guess Wordweaver does not read the posts before he shoots his mouth off.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8

And God said"Let there be light."But then the program crashed because he was trying to access the 'light' property of a NULL universe pointer.

> 2. Regarding long WU's, nothing changed in the science code (or should have
> changed, I should say), that would increase the length of analysis time. Bear
> in mind that analysis time varies greatly from WU to WU based on the quality
> of the observation (how fast the telescope was slewing, etc.).
>

The increase in time started with Seti 4.05 and all wu's displayed this and on all machines running 4.05

To answer some questions:

1. I didn't (and usually don't) post to the front page right away because (a) this is more of an informal setting so if I can be a little more "unofficial" with my posts, and (b) I get as many complaints about too much news on the front page than too little.

2. Regarding long WU's, nothing changed in the science code (or should have changed, I should say), that would increase the length of analysis time. Bear in mind that analysis time varies greatly from WU to WU based on the quality of the observation (how fast the telescope was slewing, etc.).

3. I'm still not fully comprehending the fallout from the file upload bugs, so I'm not sure if you should abandon your current WUs or not.

- Matt

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-- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person
-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

Matt - thanks. I have a couple questions though. Is the longer WU crunch time a lot of us are experiencing with Seti 4.05 normal? Should we continue to crunch WU's after we've experienced the upload failure or are we wasting our time and the servers resources?

Nice information :)

Another thing people have wondered about is the increase of computing time, that have almost doubled on the WU's. Is it debug code, more work done or something unknown(bug/mistake) that cause it? (this might have been answeded, but not in any of the threads I've read)

Thanx Matt, I understand the problem. Sometimes things need to be implemented in more than one spot to work :)

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98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8

And God said"Let there be light."But then the program crashed because he was trying to access the 'light' property of a NULL universe pointer.