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Message 907067 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 1:20:19 UTC - in response to Message 906887.  

The resourse share doesn't work properly according to other posts.

So, because other people say it doesn't work, you won't even try?

I crunch three projects, with SETI at 90% -- and it tracks resource share well.

What people expect when they have several projects is that BOINC will always have some work from all of them, and it won't. The balance is long-term, not short-term. Trying to follow short term leads to missed deadlines.

I will pick a project and give it 100% until the servers at Seti are sorted.

I think your standards are probably too high, and the SETI servers will never be sorted to meet your personal expectations because that level of reliability is simply not needed -- and not in the project budget.

It seems stupid if the project servers report ready to send and no 6.03 or 6.08 wu's are actually sent.I know there are no Astropulse jobs.

For those of us who understand it, it makes sense. It only seems stupid if you don't understand how the numbers are displayed (and are always stale) and if you don't know how work gets from the "ready" queue to the scheduler.

The scheduler has a queue of 100 work units to assign. The feeder may not fill that queue as fast as the scheduler wants to assign work.

Also why after the weekly outage is the replica db always of late hours behind the main db surely it could be copied from the main at the outage.

Don't know, and don't really care.

Those who are disappointed are looking at SETI and comparing to Amazon.com. If Amazon is down, they're losing thousands and thousands of dollars every minute. If SETI is down, it means the BOINC client has to retry -- or maybe crunch a little more for some other project now, and crunch extra SETI later to get back to resource shares.
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Message 907159 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 6:32:33 UTC

Thanks OzzFan and Ned Ludd for the explanations.
I have had some sleep now and seen the error of my ways.
I am running the cache down on one rig to do a clean and rebuild
so that one has nnw set, the main rig still has had no work sent
to it 6hrs later.It is down to its last 5 hrs of enhanced 6.08
no enhanced 6.03 at all so the 8 cores are running milkyway.
I don't know what the gpu's will do?
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Message 907210 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 11:19:29 UTC

To Claggy, Fred W, Westsail & Pyxey, Skildude, Thank you all for trying to help me out yesterday with my combined ops. After a good 10 of sleep I just installed the unified installer , restarted Boinc and
Seti found my app info file and using an anonymous platform.

I sure appreciate all the time and patience you have to deal with All the newbies like me. It speaks well of the project and people.
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Message 907218 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 11:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 907210.  
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To Claggy, Fred W, Westsail & Pyxey, Skildude, Thank you all for trying to help me out yesterday with my combined ops. After a good 10 of sleep I just installed the unified installer , restarted Boinc and
Seti found my app info file and using an anonymous platform.

I sure appreciate all the time and patience you have to deal with All the newbies like me. It speaks well of the project and people.

No problemo. I well remember the first (dumb) question that I posted as a noob to Boinc and the courtesey of the response I got, even though, as I now well know, it was a question that had been asked a zillion times before. All we ask is that, as you become more experienced you extend the same service to the next generation of noobs.

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[edit]And yes, it is because of the quality of the people involved that I hang around the SETI boards more than any other.[/edit]
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Message 907230 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 12:29:09 UTC

I will be more than glad to help anyone ,albeit with what little knowledge i have.
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Message 907252 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 13:02:22 UTC

Ah, the weekend is upon us and our friend Chaos, seems to be afoot. In other words, I've several WUs to upload/report and they're going nowhere!

Happy days.


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Message 907257 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 13:13:10 UTC
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Yea..........looks like the AP splitters have been started and now the bandwidth is maxed out!
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
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Message 907261 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 13:27:18 UTC - in response to Message 907252.  

In other words, I've several WUs to upload/report and they're going nowhere!


Wonderful, first we couldn't get work now we can't get rid of it! Ok everybody, panic again! :)


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Message 907307 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 16:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 907261.  

In other words, I've several WUs to upload/report and they're going nowhere!


Wonderful, first we couldn't get work now we can't get rid of it! Ok everybody, panic again! :)

There isn't anything here that is due before the 17th. No reason to panic before the 16th.
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Message 907409 - Posted: 13 Jun 2009, 23:51:39 UTC - in response to Message 907307.  
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Network traffic is extremely bursty at the moment. Either get a "Server has no jobs avaiable" message or the occasional HTTP error when the traffic's really heavy. But every so often i get a few downloads. With my existing 4 day cache i expect it'll be about 3-4 weeks before i actually run out of work.
I expect they'll have things sorted by then, so no real need for getting worked up at this stage.
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Message 907410 - Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 0:02:48 UTC

I seem to be able to get work now and then to keep crunching.My Mac has half a day cache so im not worried about that machine. But the old P4 only has one left in cache.
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Message 907613 - Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 16:28:39 UTC

Doh.....first no AP, and now most of the MB splitters are down and that supply is dwindling as well.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 907621 - Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 16:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 907616.  

Doh.....first no AP, and now most of the MB splitters are down and that supply is dwindling as well.


Haven't you heard?

ET has been found. He's in the laboratory now, using their computers to phone home.

The search is over. No more WU's will be available.

Sten-Arne

Aw shucks........
The kitties will be very disappointed that they did not find ET.

I'll have to ask Eric if he wants us to crunch up what is left on the rigs or not.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 907624 - Posted: 14 Jun 2009, 16:43:54 UTC - in response to Message 907613.  

Doh.....first no AP, and now most of the MB splitters are down and that supply is dwindling as well.

If past history counts for anything, the odds are pretty good that someone will interrupt their weekend and go to the lab -- if it can't be fixed remotely, that is.
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Message 907769 - Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 5:14:59 UTC - in response to Message 907624.  

No more MB's ready to send, according to the server status page.
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Message 907780 - Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 7:24:03 UTC - in response to Message 907769.  


Big mobs ready to go now, just that the server is still having it's hiccups.
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Message 907890 - Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 17:32:11 UTC

Last download 11:48 since then been getting no new tasks project has no jobs available messages, hopefully will get a few luckily I have six still to do.
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Message 907904 - Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 18:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 907890.  

I've been getting a couple at a time spread out over the last few hours. No problem here.


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Message 907913 - Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 18:32:38 UTC

change my preerences back so that I can astropulse v5 which I used to do and changed so that I can either get MBs or APs if the other has no new work. Should I go back to just MBs or leave it as I have had three messages no new work project has no job messages. Whom is taking all the WU's?
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Message 907915 - Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 18:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 907913.  

I have set my preferences to select any work,
so will crunch anything that comes my way.
With the outage tomorrow not looking to good for the RAC.lol
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