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JohnDK ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 ![]() ![]() |
Please remember too that, unlike most internet applications, consumers are not waiting to buy a product, and if the project can't supply work, the BOINC client will wait a bit and check again. It isn't really a problem. I wasn't really complaining, it was more to find out if there was some problem with the servers. Is it a "problem" for the servers with all these extra requests for WUs that gets the no jobs available? On my laptop, which I don't use much and therefor have a low cache, I have run out of jobs, not a "problem" but still... :) |
FiveHamlet ![]() Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Looks like a lean weekend for my i7. I have been running on Cuda for the last few hours. Requests for work for the cpu have been sent with the usual reply for many now of: Project has no jobs available. Server status has 63k plus ready to send. This has been the case for the last 3 hours here in the uk. I have not got any 6,08 or 6.03.I have also run out of Astropulse units. At this rate this i7 will be out of work before tomorrow. Looks like time to crunch for other projects.I will be sorry to leave Seti. Dave ![]() |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Please remember too that, unlike most internet applications, consumers are not waiting to buy a product, and if the project can't supply work, the BOINC client will wait a bit and check again. It isn't really a problem. The basic idea behind BOINC is that it should be possible to run a large distributing project on a very small budget. One way to save money is to design for the average load to be able to fill most requests most of the time instead of all of the requests all of the time. You can save alot if you go for 99% reliability instead of 99.999% reliability. Then you let the BOINC client take up the slack. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Why leave? Pick another (deserving) project, and give them a reasonable resource share. BOINC will crunch for SETI when it can get SETI, and for other projects when it can't, in accordance with your resource share. |
FiveHamlet ![]() Send message Joined: 5 Oct 99 Posts: 783 Credit: 32,638,578 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The resourse share doesn't work properly according to other posts. I will pick a project and give it 100% until the servers at Seti are sorted. It seems stupid if the project servers report ready to send and no 6.03 or 6.08 wu's are actually sent.I know there are no Astropulse jobs. Also why after the weekly outage is the replica db always of late hours behind the main db surely it could be copied from the main at the outage. ![]() |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 ![]() |
s6/12/2009 2:58:28 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.6.31 for windows_intelx86 That is certainly not seeing and app_info.xml file. Are you sure it is in the right folder? Should be in the ....projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu folder along with the optimised apps. F. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 ![]() ![]() |
s6/12/2009 2:58:28 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.6.31 for windows_intelx86 just an FYI if your app_info and optimized app are working correctly you'll see something about "running on an anonymous platform" in your messages ![]() In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 ![]() |
just an FYI if your app_info and optimized app are working correctly you'll see something about "running on an anonymous platform" in your messages Been through that bit earlier in the thread. F. ![]() |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 ![]() |
His app_info is faulty, so Boinc wouldn't see it, See my post with an ammended app_info Claggy Hint: an app_info starts with: <app_info> and not: - <app_info> |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 ![]() |
His app_info is faulty, so Boinc wouldn't see it, I assumed that was just the result of using IE to copy and paste it into his post. Mind you, I strongly support the suggestion that the unified installer be employed to bring it up to date. That would also make sure it is in the right place. F. ![]() |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 ![]() |
His app_info is faulty, so Boinc wouldn't see it, Agreed, i just didn't have the link available at the time. Claggy |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
I thank you for the info but i havent had sleep for 21 hours so any thing i would try to do i would mess up. ![]() Old James |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I thank you for the info but i havent had sleep for 21 hours so any thing i would try to do i would mess up. Know the feeling. Come back to it tomorrow. It really is straightforward. Download the unified installer for your OS. Stop all Boinc processes. Run the installer. Start Boinc. F. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 ![]() ![]() |
i will give it a shot tomorrow thanks ![]() Old James |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 338 Credit: 20,544,999 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I must highly recommend the installer! It is truly brilliant and what has been wanted by those wishing to run opp but without experience for edit files. Here is the links: Win32 Lunatics' Unified Installer FINAL BETA Win64 Lunatics' Unified Installer FINAL BETA Win98/ME Lunatics' Unified Installer FINAL BETA Thanks for everyones hard work bringing the unified installer to fruition! "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but rather, 'hmm... that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I hate that new unified installer! Here I spent hours fumbling through getting my app_info just right and now with that danged installer anyone can do it in minutes! :) lol ![]() PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 ![]() |
PANIC, PANIC, MEGA HUGE SUPER PANIC !!!!!!!! Is this the 5 minute panic or the full half-hour jobbie? (with apologies to Monty Python) F. ![]() |
JohnDK ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 ![]() ![]() |
PANIC, PANIC, MEGA HUGE SUPER PANIC !!!!!!!! Since your going of for a vacation, you don't have any problems at the moment :D |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51511 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
Is this the 5 minute panic or the full half-hour jobbie? (with apologies to Monty Python) It's panic mode for the kitties in the morning when the first rig runs out of their favorite AP kibble......... Laugh if you want......the kitties are serious about their kibble...... They'll have my toes for breakfast........ "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
The resourse share doesn't work properly according to other posts. Resource shares work fairly well. But even so, if you're only using other projects as a backup, then who cares how accurate it is as long as you have another project sending you work to keep you busy? :) It seems stupid if the project servers report ready to send and no 6.03 or 6.08 wu's are actually sent. Remember that the number is only so accurate as of X minutes ago, and with everyone clamoring for more work (and with AP out of the picture), any available will go quickly. Also why after the weekly outage is the replica db always of late hours behind the main db surely it could be copied from the main at the outage. Why mess with it and take hours to copy the db when you can simply let it catch up on its own during the course of the week. Its only a minor annoyance when the replica is behind. Its not like its the end of the world! :) |
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