> the "bottleneck" with that approach would be the amount of ram. You can only
> make a DB thats so big... That means that the database would have to be split
> into two databases that reference to each other (which I assumed has already
> been done, since its the only way to go). There is always a bottleneck, its
> just its size and location that changes, it will make for a less significant
> bottleneck, by removing it from the HDD, and placing it on the BUS, ram, or
> CPU. (all better choice then HDD since they have no moving parts)
>
> I would like to point out that you put maintain sites about 5 times, yet
> mainting the sites is minimal work, its site CREATION that is hard work, all
> they have to do to maintain it is plug the occasional news report (which they
> dont even have to do that often). And, rarely, fix a problem.
>
> Also, they dont need to "do"? seti classic, its already done.
>
> So the only things of significance that needs doing from your list are:
> 2. BOINC Core Client Development
> 2b. Answer other projects inquires about
> 3. Seti@h 2 Application DevelopmentBOINC
> 4. Astropulse Application Development (which, if I am not mistaken, was
> halted)
>
> Which are a chore by themselves, but there is no need to unnaturally inflate
> the list.
>



MIssed the point by a mile, it all takes TIME..............................and People......................... natural or unnatural......................

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

no, it DOESN'T.

You dont need a person sitting and babysitting a webpage. It just doesnt work this way. IF you make news, it takes one person 20 seconds a day to post an update (I can tell they only spend 20 seconds on it since they never even bother to spellcheck it and thus its full of errors, which seem to stem from fast typing).

Ask anyone who ran a website, only ADDING NEW CONTENT takes effort. Otherwise the site just keeps running and running and running all by itself.

There is ALOT of effort that goes into developing the new boinc software. But maintaining the sites, is most the same effort as we spend on writing those posts in the forum; if not less.

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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman!

Well, there is always that problem of back up tapes ...

Mounting and unmounting tapes for the splitters, monitoring the database and doing tuning ...

and a few other things. Like write proposals, do the research that is related to the project's creation of the result data ...

We could go on ...

But those who think there is little to do by the SETI@Home staff won't believe me, and those that do believe me are not complaining that they are sitting on their hands ...

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Noone said there is little for the staff to do...

I said that the list contained a bunch of BULL.

Its a ton of work developing new stuff, and there are a bunch of things that they do that we dont know. But making up imaginary work for them... thats just silly.

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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman!

I would think the only way one could compare projects is if they were all funded approximately the same and had the same user/server loading.

I worked in an environment where the air conditioning was "marginal" to say the least. We had temperature/humidity changes all the time and were constantly troubleshooting equipment that seemed to fail intermittently. Reboots, reseating circuit cards, cycling power, etc; all this did was add to problems in the future, but sometimes it did fix the immediate problem. If the Seti project has that type of environment as Matt indicated, they have their hand full.

> Noone said there is little for the staff to do...
>
> I said that the list contained a bunch of BULL.
>
> Its a ton of work developing new stuff, and there are a bunch of things that
> they do that we dont know. But making up imaginary work for them... thats just
> silly.
>



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I like being silly no BULL lololol it is still time and people dude and it is all there I did not make it up...........Open your mind your are not always correct and you know it hehehehehehehe



Put your money where it will do the most good!!!
Team Members (not very many)
Team members photos (Two years old)

BOINC Site
[url=http://setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_alpha/BOINC Alpha]BOINC Alpha[/url]
BOINC Beta
BOINC Seti@H
Seti@H Classic
Index of BOINC Schemas

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Semper Eadem
So long Paul, it has been a hell of a ride.

Park your ego's, fire up the computers, Science YES, Credits No.

>
> >
> > Bosh.. Realize you're lost - step 1!
> >
> > Predictor finished their stuff about a month back.. Now waiting for HW
> from
> > Dell and SW updates to go to phase 2.....
> >
> > Bosh... Spend your time reading history and not posting without info!
> >
> Perhaps you "noobie" do not understand sarcasm...:)
>
> P.S. Read some more...:)
>

<B>WHERE THE H&%L DO YOU GET OFF CALLING AZWOODY OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER, A "NEWBIE"!!</B> He has been with SETI since '99 as I have been. You didn't join up until last year! If anyone here's a "newbie" it would definitly be you, bosh. Go away or quit causing problems.

L8R....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> Where do you people find all these projects? The only four that I know about
> are listed on the BOINC home page. :(
>
> Jim
>
> > > switch?
> > >
> > > Are we all running all 4 projects at once? (only reason why I aint
> > runnig
> > > pirates is because they are only playing around with a screensaver
> and
> > not
> > > doing any actual real work, in their own words)
> > >
> >
> > That's why I detached from Pirate too. I'm waiting for Einstein to start
> up
> > next year, already signed up for it.
> >
> > L8R....
> >
> > ---
> >
>

Let's see if I can make some links here for you:

Climate Prediction CPDN
LHC@Home

These are the other 2 I run beside SETI. I tried to run Pirates but after about a week and a half of not getting my first WUs, I detached from them. They don't do any real scientific work anyway. Someone else here has given a link to them. They have a link to one called Einstein which hopes to start early next year. I already signed up with them. Hope this helps....

L8R....

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

well, those two are listed on the boinc home page already.

It lists:
Seti
LHC
Climateprediction
Folding


The question was, where to find the pirates one, and any other projects for boinc that are not released yet.

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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not superman!

> The formatting in this thread is odd if you happen to scroll down, perhaps
> another software-glitch...
> Some will say -always complaining -
> But, for heavens sake WHEN can they even get a small change right the first
> time?
> Too much looks trial and error in my humble opinion.

It's called evolution my friend =)
Most of the time you really have to know the errors before you can correct them.

> > The formatting in this thread is odd if you happen to scroll down,
> perhaps
> > another software-glitch...
> > Some will say -always complaining -
> > But, for heavens sake WHEN can they even get a small change right the
> first
> > time?
> > Too much looks trial and error in my humble opinion.
>
> It's called evolution my friend =)
> Most of the time you really have to know the errors before you can correct
> them.

Ok, I guess you must be right.
Nevertheless a big thank you for the energy and work done in a correct informative way.
Problems do not make me nervous - I really appreciate your very informative reaction - in this one I owe you a wellmeaned apology.

Greetings from Belgium ;-))

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