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Message 885473 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 7:27:15 UTC
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Hi All, As a new Boinc user, I would like to know if it is possible to link it with my old results from a previous instal of the Seti@home project (of some time ago) ? Also, I'd like to know why I can no longer find my 'old' account or results here and have had to start a new account instead, meaning all my credits are gone :(
For any long standing users out there, are there any 'tips' or 'tricks' you can suggest that might improve my boinc experience (such as what wu's to avoid, or to do first, etc., or what might make things run more smoothly on this PC, etc., etc.). Are there things that I should be aware of in terms of potential problems with running the boinc software vs. PC stability ? (for example, on my old PC, running seti@home, I noticed that, after a time, my CPU was dramatically slowed down in ALL aspects of its operation, even though the info for the seti client at that time, suggested that this was not possible - it was ...)
Also too, are there any known problems with the latest version (SP3) of Win XP's firewall that may be creating a bottleneck with my connection to the project, as I've already noticed a significant number of 'dropped' or missed connections ? (unfortunately, I had closed down the boinc app before realising I'd need to copy/paste the relevant messages here, sorry !, however, I am sure that it will happen again soon ...). Is there any (firewall) settings that I will need to change to successfully run boinc ?
Thanks to all for your help !!
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Message 885556 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 14:51:18 UTC

you'll need your old email address and sign in with it on BOINC. If you have your old email address but cant remember the paswword then you can ask for a temp PW.
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Message 885576 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 16:14:53 UTC - in response to Message 885473.  

Hi All, As a new Boinc user, I would like to know if it is possible to link it with my old results from a previous instal of the Seti@home project (of some time ago) ? ...

Was that a BOINC account or a classic SETI account?

If the latter, try For SETI@home Classic participants from the SETI homepage.

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Message 885584 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 16:35:51 UTC - in response to Message 885473.  

Hi All, As a new Boinc user, I would like to know if it is possible to link it with my old results from a previous instal of the Seti@home project (of some time ago) ? Also, I'd like to know why I can no longer find my 'old' account or results here and have had to start a new account instead, meaning all my credits are gone :(
For any long standing users out there, are there any 'tips' or 'tricks' you can suggest that might improve my boinc experience (such as what wu's to avoid, or to do first, etc., or what might make things run more smoothly on this PC, etc., etc.). Are there things that I should be aware of in terms of potential problems with running the boinc software vs. PC stability ? (for example, on my old PC, running seti@home, I noticed that, after a time, my CPU was dramatically slowed down in ALL aspects of its operation, even though the info for the seti client at that time, suggested that this was not possible - it was ...)
Also too, are there any known problems with the latest version (SP3) of Win XP's firewall that may be creating a bottleneck with my connection to the project, as I've already noticed a significant number of 'dropped' or missed connections ? (unfortunately, I had closed down the boinc app before realising I'd need to copy/paste the relevant messages here, sorry !, however, I am sure that it will happen again soon ...). Is there any (firewall) settings that I will need to change to successfully run boinc ?
Thanks to all for your help !!
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I am running BOINC 6.6.20 on two different computers connected to a DSL router. Both computers are running Windows XP Home Edition SP3 using the Windows Firewall, and I have never experienced any trouble with it. I haven't had to do anything special with the firewall software.
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Message 885595 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 17:02:08 UTC

BTW The WU's to avoid question. its a matter of preference. You can get really big credits for the astropulse WU's or you can run multibeam WU's and get much smaller WU's but they complete much faster. YOu can see what you are signed up to do in your accounts seti@home preferences
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Message 885634 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 19:29:56 UTC - in response to Message 885595.  

To try to save space & time, I'll reply to all here ! Thanks to all for your help !
Re old account : It was actually both - SETI and Boinc, neither of which are showing up when I enter my old email details (as per a 'usual' sign in). According to the message I get, there is no such email address in the records ?!! As such, I don't know what to do, or try next.
Re the Windows issue : I am now running Boinc on 2 separate PC's, 1 is currently crunching an Astropulse wu - and IT, although slow, seems to be running just fine. The other, a SETI @ home wu, is acting unpredictably, even though it shares exactly the same preferences and settings, as does the other ? I have made exceptions on both PC's re Windows Firewall, but it makes no difference ? Until today, I was getting many messages saying that the network was "unavailable" on the SETI wu, yet at precisely the same times I WAS able to aquire and d/l data to the Astropulse wu ? I'm at a loss to explain this, unless it has something to do with the 'quirks' of this particular PC ?! Any ideas ?
With regard to wu's : I've noticed that the Astropulse one seems to be huge, in comparison to the SETI one, and 'wants' well in excess of 800 hours (predicted) of CPU time to complete - yet IT is being worked thru faster than the SETI wu is ?! Is there any reason for this, beyond the processor capabilities of my machine(s) doing each item ?
Thanks again for any help you may offer :)
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Message 885636 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 19:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 885576.  

Thanks for that, however, when I try it, this is what happens ...

This e-mail address (xxxxxxxx@xxxxx.xxx) belongs to an active BOINC account, so we can't transfer its credit to your account.

As the 2 addresses are - or should be - the same, I can go no further with it here :(
Thanks anyway.
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Message 885645 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 20:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 885634.  

One possible problem I see is that the one doing the Seti MB is only 631MB. How much RAM do you have in it? It may just be too old and slow to compete with todays machines.
Your celeron is running the AP WU ok because it is a much more powerful 1.7GHz machine. As for the 800 hours estimate, that is just what it is. You should be seeing your time to completion coming down fast and your % done rising quickly. It will still take quite awhile but the 800 hours is doubtful.


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Message 885649 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 20:55:27 UTC
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The Astropulse (AP) is a new search type of SETI. It does require a lot more time to processing time then the standard Enhanced SETI (MB) WU.

Both your system can handle MB WU depending on much time you let them run each day. The 667Mhz system shouldn't in theory receive any Astopulse (AP) WU if the servers do their job right.

It won't take 800 hrs to do the AP WU but 150-200 hrs is possible on that system. Your 1.7Ghz system is just above the minimum required to be able to do Astropulse WU comfortably. My suggestion would be not to even try unless it's running close to 24/7.

You can set your SETI@home preferences to only accept MB WU
Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse: no
Astropulse v5: no

If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

This would ensure that your not crunching work that can't be returned by deadline.

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Message 885665 - Posted: 15 Apr 2009, 21:56:58 UTC - in response to Message 885649.  

The Astropulse (AP) is a new search type of SETI. It does require a lot more time to processing time then the standard Enhanced SETI (MB) WU.

Both your system can handle MB WU depending on much time you let them run each day. The 667Mhz system shouldn't in theory receive any Astopulse (AP) WU if the servers do their job right.

It won't take 800 hrs to do the AP WU but 150-200 hrs is possible on that system. Your 1.7Ghz system is just above the minimum required to be able to do Astropulse WU comfortably. My suggestion would be not to even try unless it's running close to 24/7.

You can set your SETI@home preferences to only accept MB WU
Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse: no
Astropulse v5: no

If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

This would ensure that your not crunching work that can't be returned by deadline.
Seti send AP's out to anybody that will take them. They haven't set a minimal limit to the CPU speed. They have a recommended lower end of a 1.6Ghz cpu. However for very slow PC's Id definitely recommend not running AP's WU's

As far as seti and Astropulse WU's both are seti WU's one is the multibeam that looks at narrow beam radio transmissions, Astropulse looks at broadband
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