Checked at Newegg, only brand 9400 that isn't PCI-E looks to be Sparkle, and they have pretty unfavorable reviews on that card. Too bad EVGA doesn't make one):

EVGA do make one. Check out EVGA 8400 PCI. I just ordered one through OutletPC.com, They're about the only US supplier that take credit cards for international orders and the US seems to be the only country that has CUDA capable (8400 & 9400 chipsets) PCI cards available. Will give a report when it arrives.

Brodo

Realistically, there's no reason why the major video card makers (BFG, PALiT, XFX, etc) don't do PCI or AGP models of current GPUs. It's just like the difference between IDE and SATA. The only difference is the communications interface. On the other side of that interface, the hardware is the same. The reason PCI/AGP are hard to find is because the market has moved to PCI-e, and new computers are low-cost enough for it to not be worthwhile to continue holding on to your single-core CPU AGP rigs.

I'm just saying that they -could- do a 9800GT with AGP 8x, but there could be an issue with bandwidth on the AGP bus, and the CPU would likely not be able to keep up, but why would the manufacturer care about that? If enough people want to buy something, it should be made.

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I'm just saying that they -could- do a 9800GT with AGP 8x, but there could be an issue with bandwidth on the AGP bus, and the CPU would likely not be able to keep up, but why would the manufacturer care about that? If enough people want to buy something, it should be made.

Not that I disagree, but with that same logic I had such a hard time getting people to move off the ISA bus and onto PCI. Some people just don't want to move forward.

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I guess the reason there aren't many made is that there isn't much demand for them. Any serious gamer will have a PCI-e system board by now, and if you aren't a gamer, then you dont need one.

I have fitted them to customer machines when they wanted to run dual screens on office machines with no PCI-e slot, but that was before the CUDA app was released so I never get to try it out.

Interesting to know how they run. You can only expect so much from that level of GPU, but it would be interesting to stick one in an old pIII and see what it would do.

Ian