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![]() Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8964 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Here are the plans they've setup (HUGE Thanks to Ozzfan and Ccappel for the coding help) ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 ![]() |
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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 1011 Credit: 230,314,058 RAC: 0 ![]() |
maybe Obama will come to your rescue. so how is your change going... ![]() ![]() |
DJStarfox Send message Joined: 23 May 01 Posts: 1066 Credit: 1,226,053 RAC: 2 ![]() |
I can burn through 5 GB/month by downloading one ISO file. Frequently, I've downloaded two in a month. I don't understand why they don't just limit bandwidth and have tiered speeds. Charging by absolute bytes is like watching your minutes on home phone calls. |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Just got my confirmation letter in that my new internet hardware is sent to me. So next week I expect to make the change-over from my 8Mbit to a 20Mbit connection. About time too. (And sorry, Blurf, but no it comes without cap... ;-)) |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I can burn through 5 GB/month by downloading one ISO file. Frequently, I've downloaded two in a month. I don't understand why they don't just limit bandwidth and have tiered speeds. Charging by absolute bytes is like watching your minutes on home phone calls. ... because one idiot cable company (in the U.S.) tried to limit customers to their terms of service, which said "no servers." "Idiot" because they tried to interfere with bittorrent instead of asking their customers to stay within their ToS or lose their connection. The Electronic Frontier Foundation went to court, and made sure the practice was no longer enforceable (in the U.S.). So, bandwidth providers like Time-Warner can't say "all you can use, but no servers." They can only count bandwidth. Classic example of "be careful what you ask for, because you might get it." |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 Jan 00 Posts: 362 Credit: 1,516,412 RAC: 0 ![]() |
(HUGE Thanks to Ozzfan and Ccappel for the coding help) You're welcome, Blurf. I understand the desire to keep threads clean and on-topic by doing some "housekeeping", but wouldn't it be beneficial to leave the "coding help" messages intact for the benefit of others? There have been times when I'm reading a thread and during the course of that thread's discussion I end up learning something new that isn't necessarily on-topic to the thread. Plus, it would alleviate confusion like "what coding help" due to hidden posts. :) "Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think." "I never get into an argument that I cannot win." ![]() |
Andy Williams ![]() Send message Joined: 11 May 01 Posts: 187 Credit: 112,464,820 RAC: 0 ![]() |
... next week I expect to make the change-over from my 8Mbit to a 20Mbit connection. ... without cap... I just upgraded from 15 to 30 Mbps for an extra $10 per month. No cap. Nice and well worth it. -- Classic 82353 WU / 400979 h ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
I just upgraded from 15 to 30 Mbps for an extra $10 per month. No cap. Nice and well worth it. I am going to pay €30 less for the 20Mbit connection than I pay at this moment for the 8Mbit... ;-) Too bad I couldn't quit my contract before September or else I would've changed ISP as well and went for a 20Mbit connection that's 55 euros cheaper than what I pay now for my 8Mbit. By this time you know I pay too much for the 8Mbit. :-D |
Andy Williams ![]() Send message Joined: 11 May 01 Posts: 187 Credit: 112,464,820 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I am going to pay €30 less for the 20Mbit connection than I pay at this moment for the 8Mbit... ;-) Are these per month charges? Expensive by my undoubtedly jaded US standards. -- Classic 82353 WU / 400979 h ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Are these per month charges? Expensive by my undoubtedly jaded US standards. Yes, they're per month. |
Mike Davis Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 240 Credit: 5,402,361 RAC: 0 ![]() |
My ISP has varying tariffs, depending on what you want... theyre all the same speed, but have different caps. one is a 10gb, one a 20gb and one is unlimited, you basically get what you pay for. if you hit your limit before the end of the month you can pay extra for that month to get it unlimited until the end of the month (works out about 5 quid more/month that just getting the unlimited in the first place, but if you dont do it too often then its worth paying less and getting the 10 or 20gb tariff) |
![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 00 Posts: 15 Credit: 5,921,750 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I broke down the cost of the new Time Warner plans in my blog: http://www.enusbaum.com/blog/2009/04/07/time-warner-cable-have-they-gone-mental/ Basically, you'd get way more monthly transfer if you went dialup ;) Also, depending on how you look at the numbers, getting a dedicated DS-3 would be cheaper than using Road Runner! LOL! :D |
![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 00 Posts: 15 Credit: 5,921,750 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Yeah, if it weren't for the Price/Speed offered by Time Warner for Road Runner, I'd dump the service so fast! If they put a cap limit on it, the price per gigabyte is too high! I honestly have no idea what they're thinking... |
![]() Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8964 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 ![]() |
From Long Reply-http://a.longreply.com/101892: Statement From Time Warner Cable's Chief Operations Officer on Tiered Broadband Trials ![]() ![]() |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
I like the idea of the "gas gauge" tool. It would be nice to see what my own total consumption is per month, not that it would change my online habbits at all, but its one of those "nice to know" things when you're curious. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 ![]() |
. . . here's a Quote from the Net: Write your local town official. [They control the franchise monopoly in your local town]. No local franchise, no Time Warner business. Complain to the FCC. Time Warner is targeting local business models to discriminate against customers. DO NOT GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT! > emphasis / italics / bold: mine ;) ![]() Science Status Page . . . |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
I've never had Time Warner, but I've got friends that are stuck with it, but I have to say.. I applaud that article. These days, the big companies just do whatever they please, without giving much detail and explanation to the people (customers) giving them money. One of my dealings with a local infrastructure problem with Comcast, they insisted that it was my equipment and not something they were in control of. After a few days, I called them back up and called the same guy I talked to previously, and he said that there actually was a problem in the area. He called two days later just to inform me that they replaced an interface card in one of the nearby nodes. I did a bandwidth test and ping test and confirmed that the problem was solved..and I got 50% more bandwidth out of that card replacement, too. That's what really annoyed me is that instead of acknowledging that there was a problem, they pull the "we're perfect, it's just you" story, and then when the problem magically fixes itself, they say "I guess that 101st power cycle of your modem fixed it." That's why I say I applaud the COO for that article. I'm not giving TW any of my money because I have a different provider, but at least they're being open about it. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 30 Aug 01 Posts: 1228 Credit: 47,779,411 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
To me, all it sounds like is a polite way of saying, "We're going to be raising prices, if you don't like it, we can drop the level of service you get." I'm not in a TW service area, but used to have Comcast, and they took every chance they could to raise rates. Until now, though, they never gave the option of avoiding a rate hike, just "Hey, we BOOSTED your speeds! Oh, and by the way, pay us more..." -Dave ![]() |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Maybe not. With the Telcos deploying fiber, they've gone to the various legislatures and basically changed the law so that the public right-of-ways can be used by the telco to deliver TV. ... and in the process, to make it fair, responsibility for Cable TV franchises is shifting to the PUC in many states -- and not the local city government. |
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