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Message 881498 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 1:49:39 UTC

Well-we received a bill insert today from Time Warner about the bandwith cap they're instituting this summer. I'm not home to see it yet--just heard about it over a phone call with my wife at dinner.

Will be calling them tmrw.

Thinking I may have to drop down to one computer. :(


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Message 881521 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 3:19:20 UTC - in response to Message 881498.  

My cap with Comcast is 250GB (not Gigabits) per month. I have yet to reach that cap, even with all my TechNet and other .ISO downloading, and I have 9 computers in my house running BOINC, plus two to three laptops (not running BOINC) at any given moment doing various things on the net.

I doubt you'll have a problem.
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Message 881542 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 4:02:57 UTC

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Message 881547 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 4:21:22 UTC
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In the USA you have limited DSL?
[time/ file flatrates]

Only? No real flatrates?


In Germany since some years we have only real DSL flatrates.

Up to 16,000 [telephone] or some 32,000 [I guess with cable TV]

..I have only a DSL light with 384DL/64UP because I live in a very small village.. ;-(

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Message 881554 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 4:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 881553.  


DSL is a flatrate for each speed grade out here, I'm paying about $20 or so a month for 1MB/384K and I have no problems. My TV is by Satellite(Dish Network) and I like Dish very much and out here Satellite is better than the cable insanity that's going on nearby.


Cable TV..? *dreaming*

We have only SAT TV.. ;-)

Like I said, very very small village.. ;-D

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Message 881570 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 6:14:25 UTC

I am still waiting to hear what Frontier is going to do, they have a proposed low end cap of 5 GB/month.

It is supposed to be different depending on your package.

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Message 881571 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 6:23:37 UTC

They will try anything to add $$$ to there bottom line.
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Message 881612 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 9:52:31 UTC - in response to Message 881542.  

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S860472.shtml?cat=566

They're proposing a 40 gig cap.

A 40GB cap per month is around 100,000 workunits a month. That would be a RAC of about 130,000.

I think you're BOINC usage isn't going to be a problem with a 320 RAC. That would be about a 0.1GB per month usage.
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Message 881615 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 10:15:17 UTC - in response to Message 881542.  

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S860472.shtml?cat=566

They're proposing a 40 gig cap.


Well i'm on a 50Gb plan - 25Gb peak, 25Gb off peak (1am to 7am). If you exceed the limit you get throttled. I have BOINC network times set on the machines to use off-peak. It tends to reduce the traffic as it stores up wu ready to send in, so less need to xfer as much. I also use a caching proxy server (Squid). There are 5 quaddies, and a i7 running BOINC on the farm at the moment.

The SuperHost idea would also allow you to reduce your network usage, but it doesn't look like they will ever get around to doing it.
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Message 881621 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 10:53:09 UTC
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The cable companys are doing this because the movie/tv content available on the internet.

They cap the usage, I have Charter with a 100gb month cap, that way you still need to have there cable TV, or pay threw the @$$....

My only other option here is Verizon DSL, I dont know if there is a cap, but I am at the far end of it, and would be lucky to see 1meg down....
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Message 881647 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 12:56:32 UTC - in response to Message 881557.  

Population in Yermo CA USA is about 4200 total.



..we have only ~ 1,700 people in our veeery smallll village.. ;-D

The T-Com said, this year they will enhance the DSL speed in our village..

But I believe it first if I see the 'new' speed on my rigs.. ;-)



I'm at Congstar [much cheaper], but the T-Com is the owner of nearly all DSL cables.
So the other companies must rent the cables from T-Com.
And if the T-Com think this or this area of Germany don't need higher speed.. no chance..


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Message 881681 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 15:00:21 UTC

This is why when I get my computer business running, I'm getting a 10mbit Ethernet Internet connection. 10mbit up/down, unlimited bandwidth, and a /27 subnet, all for under US$1,000/mo. The business will be paying for it, not me. :p
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Message 881704 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 16:12:29 UTC - in response to Message 881547.  


In the USA you have limited DSL?
[time/ file flatrates]

Only? No real flatrates?


In Germany since some years we have only real DSL flatrates.

Up to 16,000 [telephone] or some 32,000 [I guess with cable TV]

..I have only a DSL light with 384DL/64UP because I live in a very small village.. ;-(

We have had "flat" DSL and cable for many years.

What the providers have found is that 95% of the total bandwidth is used by 5% of their customers.

Those flat connections are sold for users, not for servers -- that is "business" service. The users are often running torrents, which really is a server, and they're running torrents 24/7.

The limits I've seen have been chosen so that 95% of the customers fall below the cap.
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Message 881718 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 17:07:15 UTC - in response to Message 881612.  

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S860472.shtml?cat=566

They're proposing a 40 gig cap.

A 40GB cap per month is around 100,000 workunits a month. That would be a RAC of about 130,000.

I think you're BOINC usage isn't going to be a problem with a 320 RAC. That would be about a 0.1GB per month usage.


Keith--actually that's only my Seti RAC. I run multiple projects.

Arkayn--the 5gb Frontier cap is not even close to being enforced...we expect it to be significantly higher.


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Message 881756 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 18:44:57 UTC

We got no caps here either in Sweden on regular DSL connections..

That's nice not needing to bother..

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Message 881792 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 21:31:19 UTC

I don't have a cap either, but since it's dial-up if I downloaded 24/7 for a month it would be barely over 10 GB. If I were offered a $29.95/month plan with enough speed to worry about a 40 GB cap I'd surely take the offer. I live too far from the nearest village to have DSL or Cable as an option, though.

There's a satellite internet service at $29.95 which on paper looks like it might be similar to the TW cap, the SkyWay USA Reasonable Use Policy for the Bronze plan indicates I could download up to 1500 MB per day without being throttled below 128K. That's a theoretical 45 GB/month, but user discussions suggest their satellite bandwidth is oversubscribed and actual download rates during USA daytime are considerably less than the nominal plan rate.
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Message 881813 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 23:04:43 UTC - in response to Message 881792.  

I don't have a cap either, but since it's dial-up if I downloaded 24/7 for a month it would be barely over 10 GB. If I were offered a $29.95/month plan with enough speed to worry about a 40 GB cap I'd surely take the offer. I live too far from the nearest village to have DSL or Cable as an option, though.

There's a satellite internet service at $29.95 which on paper looks like it might be similar to the TW cap, the SkyWay USA Reasonable Use Policy for the Bronze plan indicates I could download up to 1500 MB per day without being throttled below 128K. That's a theoretical 45 GB/month, but user discussions suggest their satellite bandwidth is oversubscribed and actual download rates during USA daytime are considerably less than the nominal plan rate.
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The problem with satellite internet isn't bandwidth, it's latency.

Geostationary orbit is a good distance away, and the speed of light is inconveniently slow.
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Message 881819 - Posted: 2 Apr 2009, 23:22:02 UTC

Want to get away from the TW cable cap, but kind of keep your TW cable and maybe even save $?

I am a subscriber to Earthlink cable. Everything is TW, except my IP, DNS servers and e-mail and it's $5/month less than TW. I am billed by TW, I call TW for all my issue, I get the same speeds as everyone else, and no rate limits are ever going into effect.

There are others that also partner with TW. It's a thought.


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Message 881882 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 3:41:23 UTC - in response to Message 881813.  

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There's a satellite internet service at $29.95 which on paper looks like it might be similar to the TW cap, the SkyWay USA Reasonable Use Policy for the Bronze plan indicates I could download up to 1500 MB per day without being throttled below 128K. That's a theoretical 45 GB/month, but user discussions suggest their satellite bandwidth is oversubscribed and actual download rates during USA daytime are considerably less than the nominal plan rate.
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The problem with satellite internet isn't bandwidth, it's latency.

Geostationary orbit is a good distance away, and the speed of light is inconveniently slow.

Latency is certainly a problem, and makes some kinds of internet activities impractical. Even modern web pages built with 50 or 100 extra pieces of crud could be painful. But bandwidth can also be a problem, a satellite transponder has just a certain amount and if they try to share it among too many users there's congestion. That was the situation when I researched SkyWay USA last year, but they've since made a deal with Echostar which may have relieved it. Unfortunately I don't have a view of most of the satellite arc, the trees which protect my dwelling from the cold Winter winds are more important.
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Message 881888 - Posted: 3 Apr 2009, 3:59:54 UTC

no caps here with dslextreme I have 3000/768 speeds which dslextreme rents from Verizon.
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