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Message 876905 - Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 17:13:28 UTC

Greetings:

For the past couple of days, there's been NO new work downloaded from S.E.T.I.

Three other B.O.I.N.C. projects continue to function as usual.

So, what's up with the S.E.T.I. project?

Why isn't there any work being assigned to my computer?

Is this normal?

Am I worrying over nothing?

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Message 876906 - Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 17:15:33 UTC

Is it possible, that your cache is full of other Boinc project WU´s?
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Message 876919 - Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 17:53:04 UTC

BOINC works on a by debt basis. This means that it will pay back CPU time it has done for one project equally to other projects you are attached to. So when BOINC won't get any work for one project, it is most probably paying back the time it has spent on that project to the other projects.

This is normal. Eventually BOINC will fetch work from Seti again.
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Message 877217 - Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 16:36:56 UTC

Greetings:

I just now checked my B.O.I.N.C. program, and there is a new assignment downloaded from S.E.T.I., so everything is plumb hunky dory and back to normal.

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Message 877850 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:19:00 UTC
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I just downloaded the BOINC Manager to my Windows Vista 64bit computer last night 3/20/2009 at 11:22:21PM. I only have the SETI@home project attached, and nothing else. Ever since I downloaded it, it has been saying "Message from server: (project has no jobs available)". I just now tried getting a job from SETI@home again on 3/21/2009 at 10:07:01AM, and still nothing.

Is this normal? Is there a problem at SETI (or wherever the program gets its info. from)? Do I need to uninstall and reinstall the program?

If this is normal, how long does it usually go on, before it starts getting jobs again?

Thanks!

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Message 877857 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 877850.  

Myles,
The servers at SETI had a glitch yesterday and are still trying to recover. I hope someone is in there today again working on it but until it gets fixed there is no work coming out of SETI. If we are lucky they will get it fixed today but it will still take awhile to catch up. This happens now and then but the guys at SETI are good at fixing these things. You just have to be patient.


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Message 877860 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:49:00 UTC

okay, thanks! 8-)
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Message 878602 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 16:35:40 UTC

My Boinc manager dont seem to collect multi beam tasks anymore. Is there no more multi beam tasks? The AP completions times are ridiculous.
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Message 878613 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 16:58:15 UTC - in response to Message 878602.  

If you don't want to run AstroPulse tasks, disable them in your SETI@home preferences. That's better than aborting them.

You should set
Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse: no
Astropulse v5: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

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Message 878641 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 18:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 878613.  

If you don't want to run AstroPulse tasks, disable them in your SETI@home preferences. That's better than aborting them.

You should set
Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse: no
Astropulse v5: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no

Gruß,
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Thanks, I hate to sound like a moron (Sometimes it can't be helped, LOL) We are fine running Astropusle on one of the three computers in our household, and I think we have managed to set the preferences for home, school & work to try to control them each differently. For Astropulse, it doesn't seem to matter much though, because SETI seems to be able to decide which computers are too slow for Astropulse all by itself.

However, lately we are not getting any AP WU's at all. I think we were OK before by limiting our preferences to not use GPU somewhere in the preferences, since our graphic card does not support the Astropulse version that requires NVIDIA graphics.

I do not know which options to set to allow the kind of Astropulse our machine can handle. I am guessing that we should say, "yes" for Astropulse V5 and "no" for Astropulse.

But, I don't know how SETI will respond depending on how we set the switch for SETI@home Enhanced.

It seems that allowing Astropulse to run is advantageous for our overall RAC, even though it dips lower while waiting for the WU's to validate.

Also, do we just leave the other option as, "no" to enable GPU usage?

Thanks, Padma


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Message 878651 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 19:39:08 UTC - in response to Message 878641.  

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However, lately we are not getting any AP WU's at all. I think we were OK before by limiting our preferences to not use GPU somewhere in the preferences, since our graphic card does not support the Astropulse version that requires NVIDIA graphics.

Since you have no computer with a CUDA-capable GPU (according to Computers belonging to Gustav & Padma), you don't need to set that preference. Besides, there is no AstroPulse application for the GPU.

I think there are just not enough AP WUs created for all users (see the Server status page).

I do not know which options to set to allow the kind of Astropulse our machine can handle. I am guessing that we should say, "yes" for Astropulse V5 and "no" for Astropulse.

The "old" AP WUs are no longer generated, there are only resends to be distributed.

AP V5 tasks are quite a bit larger than the old ones (as I have read; I don't run AP at all).

But, I don't know how SETI will respond depending on how we set the switch for SETI@home Enhanced.

If you set it to yes, MultiBeam tasks will be sent to your machines, as long as there are any available.

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Also, do we just leave the other option as, "no" to enable GPU usage?

See above.

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Message 879235 - Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 22:54:49 UTC

Apparently this is still an issue, no other projects selected and been having delays getting new tasks with SETI...
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Message 879239 - Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 23:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 879235.  

From the front page news:

March 24, 2009
We are currently managing several problems with the science database server. The database will be okay, but it is currently offline. It was take a while before we are fully back up and running normally. In the meantime we will mostly be unable to create new workunits, so expect your clients to run idle for the next few days (unless you are running other BOINC projects!).

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Message 879393 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 14:32:55 UTC - in response to Message 879239.  

/Bill Hicks mode... What are you, some sorta reader? /End Bill Hicks mode

Yeah Its always a good Idea to read before posting.


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Message 879407 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 14:57:17 UTC

i also receive the message"astropulse v5 not available for my type of computer". i have an imac running on leopard 10.5.6. any connection or is the system down? thanx in advance for shedding any light on this, peace..

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Message 879414 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:17:31 UTC - in response to Message 879407.  

From the front page news:

March 24, 2009
We are currently managing several problems with the science database server. The database will be okay, but it is currently offline. It was take a while before we are fully back up and running normally. In the meantime we will mostly be unable to create new workunits, so expect your clients to run idle for the next few days (unless you are running other BOINC projects!).


Also, see Matt Lebofsky's posts in the Technical News section, or in the tech News forum.
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Message 879458 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 16:42:37 UTC

This thread is meant to be the central location for merging of all threads started about the current outage


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Message 879482 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 17:27:09 UTC

I just noticed that two A/P splitters are running, so for those who aren't afraid of A/P should be able to start getting work.

That also means that Thumper is at least nominally "up" and they can work on the extents problem in one of the multibeam databases.
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Message 879491 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 17:39:17 UTC

Hey gang -

I'll post a tech news item later, but just so you know I'm starting up one multibeam splitter (maybe more later). The pulse rebuild is underway, but upon consideration this morning we decided there was no real reason *not* to start a mb splitter or two - we can insert new workunits and results, just not pulses. So the assimilator queue will continue to grow (something we dealt with before in the past), but at least some multibeam workunit requests will get satisfied.

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Message 879507 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 18:03:53 UTC - in response to Message 879491.  

And that just after Blurf has posted in every Q&A forum (bar CUDA) that there's a shortage of work. ;-)

Thanks for your effortless updates, Matt.
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