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Message 888092 - Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 23:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 888088.  
Last modified: 24 Apr 2009, 23:42:37 UTC

Here's a snip of mine:

     <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>603</version_num>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
        <flops>6351283655</flops>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
    </app_version>  
    <app_version>
        <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
        <version_num>608</version_num>
        <platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
        <avg_ncpus>0.150000</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.150000</max_ncpus>
        <flops>21200000000</flops>
        <plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
            <main_program/>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <file_ref>
            <file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
        </file_ref>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
    </app_version>


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I'm assimilating the parts of Yours that are missing and making It match order wise to Yours.

Oh and Here's mine:
<app_info>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>
<avg_ncpus>1.000000</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.000000</max_ncpus>
<flops>6147708115</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V11_VLARKill_refined.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>

<app_version>
	<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
	<version_num>608</version_num>
	<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
	<avg_ncpus>0.010000</avg_ncpus>
	<max_ncpus>0.010000</max_ncpus>
	<flops>21200000000</flops>
	<coproc>
		<type>CUDA</type>
		<count>1</count>
	</coproc>
<file_ref>
	<file_name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V11_VLARKill_refined.exe</file_name>
	<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
	<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
	<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
	<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

</app_info>

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Message 888093 - Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 23:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 888092.  
Last modified: 24 Apr 2009, 23:39:08 UTC

I'm assimilating the parts of Yours that are missing and making It match order wise to Yours.

Should be good to go then as long as it is pointing to your file names.

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Message 888097 - Posted: 24 Apr 2009, 23:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 888093.  

I'm assimilating the parts of Yours that are missing and making It match order wise to Yours.

Should be good to go then as long as it is pointing to your file names.

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Oh It is, I didn't change that as My last post shows.
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Message 890213 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 16:11:04 UTC

Just moving this back to the front page.


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Message 890305 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 22:27:56 UTC
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Having some problems... Can I get some help?

Followed instructions and got all of the apps and loaded them. I then modified my app_info and loaded that. Checked for errors and got none, so re-started the network and requested new work. I got several CUDA units that started fine and then the problems started. As I got ap V5 503 units they would download and start then immediately complete with an error that I did not have an "output" file?

I have attached a pic of my message log and my app_info file...

Can someone take a look and throw me a bone?

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12Gb Corsair @ 1600mhz
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9800 GX2 in non SLI




<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>6859929025</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>7927029095</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<flops>5335500352</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>.01</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>.01</max_ncpus>
<flops>16600000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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Message 890307 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 22:34:30 UTC

Try to check if the files have the correct permissions. They should be the same as the folder.
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Message 890310 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 22:41:16 UTC - in response to Message 890307.  

What permisssions?
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Message 890314 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 22:50:18 UTC

right-click the file, then under the security tab
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Message 890316 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 22:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 890305.  


<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>7927029095</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>

Well the first thing I notice in your app_info.xml file is that you are trying to use the wrong App for Astropulse v5. The AK_V8 will not process Astropulse - you need the ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe for that.

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Message 890319 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 23:04:52 UTC - in response to Message 890305.  

Having some problems... Can I get some help?

Followed instructions and got all of the apps and loaded them. I then modified my app_info and loaded that. Checked for errors and got none, so re-started the network and requested new work. I got several CUDA units that started fine and then the problems started. As I got ap V5 503 units they would download and start then immediately complete with an error that I did not have an "output" file?

I have attached a pic of my message log and my app_info file...

Can someone take a look and throw me a bone?

i7 920 @ 3.5Ghz
12Gb Corsair @ 1600mhz
Vista Ultimate 64bit
9800 GX2 in non SLI




There is a line after the preferences limits
file projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe not found
check that



<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>6859929025</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</name> <----- This exe is setiathome_enhanced opt. app, you need this -> ap_5.03r103_SSE3.exe, wrong app can't work.

<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>7927029095</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</file_name> <-- here too


<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<flops>5335500352</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>.01</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>.01</max_ncpus>
<flops>16600000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>


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Message 890320 - Posted: 1 May 2009, 23:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 890316.  

Yup I added the AK to the AP, My bonehead move...

Changed it to the correct AP 503 and all is well, now I can see what I can do with this new i7!

Thanks again...
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Message 890348 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 0:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 890305.  

Having some problems... Can I get some help?

Followed instructions and got all of the apps and loaded them. I then modified my app_info and loaded that. Checked for errors and got none, so re-started the network and requested new work. I got several CUDA units that started fine and then the problems started. As I got ap V5 503 units they would download and start then immediately complete with an error that I did not have an "output" file?
...

FWIW, 4 of those AP WUs had a data problem not your fault at all. Specifically, your tasks 1216982434, 1216982874, 1216983056, and 1216984097 quit without producing an output file with:
Error in ap_remove_radar.cpp: generate_envelope: num_ffts_performed < 100. Blanking too much RFI?

They were all from the the B3_P1 channel of 'tapes' from ap_13mr09 or ap_20mr09, which matches what others are seeing. See some recent posts in the Astropulse Errors II-Optimized version 5.03! thread for more details.
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Message 890438 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 5:15:31 UTC

Just a tip that some may find useful.

I found that altering the lines

<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>

back to the "stock" 0.05 gave smoother running on my CUDA box. This stopped a tendency to stall for periods of up to a minute on both GPU and CPU units and helped with VLAR's in particular.

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Message 892531 - Posted: 8 May 2009, 1:05:16 UTC

This thread keeps getting buried. Just bringing it back to the front page.


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Message 893101 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 18:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 890438.  

Following Brodo's comments about reducing avg/max_ncpus :-

I also had my settings as :-
<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>

I have been having issues with Computation Errors (exit code -5 = no result file) in the following circumstances with CUDA tasks - although I don't see any stalling going on.

1. When suspending a task, a new task starts and ends after about 6 seconds with error -5. A second task then starts OK.

2. When new tasks are downloaded at the top of the queue as the status changes to READY TO RUN it fails as above. The same continues to happen for all the following tasks as they arrive.

If I'm lucky and happen to spot a bunch of tasks like this before they get reported, I stop BOINC and change their states back to READY TO RUN and they then run OK.

On one PC I have now tried reducing the settings until I reached 0.099000 - problems at 0.100000. I haven't carried out exhaustive tests but was able to suspend tasks without new tasks erroring at this setting. I haven't yet seen if this reduction is throttling the GPU throughput.

I have been running AK V8 MB and stock CUDA app on versions of BOINC from 6.6.20 up to 6.6.28 on various PCs with GTS250 and GT8600 and GT9600 GPUs with various recent graphic driver versions. (GPUs not overclocked)

Has anyone else encountered similar problems?

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Message 893107 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 18:50:10 UTC - in response to Message 893101.  

Following Brodo's comments about reducing avg/max_ncpus :-

I also had my settings as :-
<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>

I have been having issues with Computation Errors (exit code -5 = no result file) in the following circumstances with CUDA tasks - although I don't see any stalling going on.

1. When suspending a task, a new task starts and ends after about 6 seconds with error -5. A second task then starts OK.

2. When new tasks are downloaded at the top of the queue as the status changes to READY TO RUN it fails as above. The same continues to happen for all the following tasks as they arrive.

If I'm lucky and happen to spot a bunch of tasks like this before they get reported, I stop BOINC and change their states back to READY TO RUN and they then run OK.

On one PC I have now tried reducing the settings until I reached 0.099000 - problems at 0.100000. I haven't carried out exhaustive tests but was able to suspend tasks without new tasks erroring at this setting. I haven't yet seen if this reduction is throttling the GPU throughput.

I have been running AK V8 MB and stock CUDA app on versions of BOINC from 6.6.20 up to 6.6.28 on various PCs with GTS250 and GT8600 and GT9600 GPUs with various recent graphic driver versions. (GPUs not overclocked)

Has anyone else encountered similar problems?

My experience is similar, but with significant variants. I have assumed that it is a "feature" of Boinc 6.6.23 so have not raised it as an issue - but since you ask...

I have <ave_ncpus> and <max_ncpus> both set to 0.15 and that has served me well so far.

If, for any reason, my rig goes into EDF mode (e.g. watching live-feed football on the web the other night so the GTX295 had other things to do for a change) whatever is being crunched at the time goes to "waiting to run" and 2 nearest scheduled WU's start up (this is ALL on the CUDA). When the first of those 2 finishes and uploads, the second goes into "waiting to run" and 2 new ones start up at the same time. And so it goes on - for every 2 that start, one reports and the second goes to "waiting to run" so when it comes out of EDF mode, I have a whole list waiting to run when their turn comes round.
Now the similarity - when those WU's finally do run, they error with the same exit code -5 = no result file.

So, as you can see, different circumstances - same symptom; perhaps there is a linkage somewhere?

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Message 893112 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 19:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 893107.  

I had mine at 0.127970 and was having no problems but saw it suggested that 0.040000 Would help it run a little bit smoother. I am trying it now but I don't see much change. Then again, I've never had the -5 problem either.(knock on wood)


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Message 893131 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 19:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 893107.  

Now the similarity - when those WU's finally do run, they error with the same exit code -5 = no result file.

I got my first error -5 today, while doing some manual suspend/resume work to get a Beta test run to start before its time.

The full message is:

<core_client_version>6.6.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
 - exit code -5 (0xfffffffb)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
SETI@home error -5 Can't open file
(work_unit.sah) in read_wu_state() errno=2

File: ..\worker.cpp
Line: 123

</stderr_txt>
]]>

- so nothing to do with result files. [BOINC's message about a missing file is always a consequence of the crash, and says nothing whatsoever about the cause of the crash]

The behaviour of BOINC when suspending/resuming CUDA tasks does still seem to have some problems - I'll try to write it up for boinc_alpha.

Knowing the usual response - Fred, would you be willing to catch some debug logs and screen shots (of BOINC, not the footy) next time there's a good match on?
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Message 893136 - Posted: 9 May 2009, 19:55:35 UTC - in response to Message 893112.  

I had mine at 0.127970 and was having no problems but saw it suggested that 0.040000 Would help it run a little bit smoother. I am trying it now but I don't see much change. Then again, I've never had the -5 problem either.(knock on wood)

There's nothing magical about 0.127970 either.

The figure was what BOINC worked out for my Q6600/9800GT combination when I was first experimenting with the new form of app_info files - see Beta message 36887. I think it probably comes from the SETI app needing about 2m 30s of CPU time for a task that runs 20 minutes on the CUDA card - the ratio feels about right.

So far as I know, the figure doesn't (shouldn't?) affect processing in any way: like the flops adjustment, it's supposed to be used just to smooth the work-fetch balance between CPU and CUDA tasks.

If you feel inclined to fiddle, I think you should try:

If you have a mega-fast CUDA card on a comparatively slow motherboard/CPU host, expect to use a higher<avg_ncpus> & <max_ncpus> figure.

If you have a fast CPU, but only a comparatively weak CUDA card, go the other way - use a lower<avg_ncpus> & <max_ncpus> figure.

But always keep both figures the same as each other.

(Unless you can work out something else that we don't know yet!)
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Unless of course you have a case like mine where everything is slow. :)


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