The 64bit AK_V8 filename is 'AK_v8_win_x64_SSSE3x.exe'
while the app_info has the 32bit 'AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe' in it.

Claggy

Just edited those entries but have state file error missing application file
AK v8__win_64_SSE41.exe,however the app is in the folder.
I now have 8xastropulse wu up and running so something works lol
I will run the out and try again

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Just edited those entries but have state file error missing application file
AK v8__win_64_SSE41.exe,however the app is in the folder.
I now have 8xastropulse wu up and running so something works lol
I will run the out and try again

I assume the misplaced underscores are a typo? It should be AK_v8_win_x64_SSE41.exe . Check the Processes tab in Task Manager to see what is actually running the AP WUs.

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Classic 82353 WU / 400979 h

ap_5.03r112_sse3.exe*32 are running the ap's
The underscores are correct in the info file.
when I start the manager the cuda.exe
the cudart.dll andcufft.dll's are deleted and I later get the error that there
is no url to download from?

The eta of the 8 ap wu's is 24hrs 2% in 26 mins realtime.
the state file says there is no AK_v8_win_64_sse41.exe and it was correct,
so I coppied a new AK_v8_win_64_sse41.exe to the sei folder and for some reason it got deleted again?

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ap_5.03r112_sse3.exe*32 are running the ap's
The underscores are correct in the info file.
when I start the manager the cuda.exe
the cudart.dll andcufft.dll's are deleted and I later get the error that there
is no url to download from?

The eta of the 8 ap wu's is 24hrs 2% in 26 mins realtime.

So the APs are good. Did you download an optimized CUDA app and DLLs? It sounds like you've mixed the stock app with optimized DLLs or vice versa in some combination. That will cause BM to delete all of the files due to a checksum mismatch.

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Classic 82353 WU / 400979 h

I downloaded the 64 bit files and coppied them to the seti folder as decribed in the txt in the zip

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make sure boinc and the boinc manager are restarted to have the replacement take hold

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I downloaded the 64 bit files and coppied them to the seti folder as decribed in the txt in the zip

What package did you download? There are a lot of them floating around. What was contained in the zip archive?

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I exited BM and checked in processes.
I replaced the files and restarted BM here are the start messages.


08/04/2009 22:56:48 Starting BOINC client version 6.6.17 for windows_x86_64
08/04/2009 22:56:48 log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Running under account FiveHamlet
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home [error] State file error: missing application file AK_v8_win_64_SSE41.exe
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 4]
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni mmx
08/04/2009 22:56:48 OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Ultimate x64 Editon, Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00)
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Memory: 6.00 GB physical, 12.10 GB virtual
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Disk: 224.61 GB total, 163.62 GB free
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Local time is UTC +1 hours
08/04/2009 22:56:48 CUDA device: GeForce 9600 GT (driver version 18208, CUDA version 1.1, 512MB, est. 37GFLOPS)
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] Deleting file setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe while in use
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] Deleting file cudart.dll while in use
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] Deleting file cufft.dll while in use
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] Deleting file libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll while in use
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Not using a proxy
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4859727; location: (none); project prefs: default
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 29-Mar-2009 03:20:35)
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Host location: none
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home General prefs: using your defaults
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Preferences limit memory usage when active to 4605.43MB
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 5526.52MB
08/04/2009 22:56:48 Preferences limit disk usage to 100.00GB
08/04/2009 22:56:48 file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe not found
08/04/2009 22:56:48 file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart.dll not found
08/04/2009 22:56:48 file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft.dll not found
08/04/2009 22:56:48 file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll not found
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] No URL for file transfer of setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] No URL for file transfer of cudart.dll
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] No URL for file transfer of cufft.dll
08/04/2009 22:56:48 [error] No URL for file transfer of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B4_P0_00039_20090408_11812.wu_1 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B3_P1_00061_20090408_29928.wu_0 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B2_P1_00329_20090408_02911.wu_0 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B3_P0_00314_20090408_03326.wu_0 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_19ja09ac_B2_P1_00174_20090309_31229.wu_2 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B3_P1_00060_20090408_29928.wu_1 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B3_P0_00316_20090408_03326.wu_0 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:48 SETI@home Restarting task ap_25fe09aa_B4_P0_00038_20090408_11812.wu_1 using astropulse_v5 version 503
08/04/2009 22:56:50 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe
08/04/2009 22:56:50 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of cudart.dll
08/04/2009 22:56:50 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of cufft.dll
08/04/2009 22:56:50 SETI@home Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll

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Remember, don't overwrite your special app_info with the new one from your downloaded package,
If you did, it probably won't have entries for the .dll's and cuda app, so Boinc will delete them.
Just need to amend the file names in the app_info of any AK_V8 apps that you have downloaded,
a little hint to make sure the the app name & app_info entries line up:
on the new app file, click rename, copy the whole filename, then paste it into the app_info where required,
this minimises the risk of typo's.

Claggy

I replaced the old app info that is the problem then,so
I will have to edit the downloaded app info into the stock app info?
If I close BM can i reinstall the stock app and then edit the info file
without loosing the AP WU's?
So far the 8xAPulse WU's 4.5% in 1Hr



Just checked in the downloaded app_info file and there is reference to cudart cufft and the cuda exe?

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I replaced the old app info that is the problem then,so
I will have to edit the downloaded app info into the stock app info?
If I close BM can i reinstall the stock app and then edit the info file
without loosing the AP WU's?
So far the 8xAPulse WU's 4.5% in 1Hr

Just checked in the downloaded app_info file and there is reference to cudart cufft and the cuda exe?

Make yourself a Temp folder, Download and copy the following files into it:

ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe
ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe
Your Choice of AK_V8 app, the SSSE3 version is Probably Best for Quads or Better,
setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe
cudart.dll
cufft.dll
libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll

Discard any downloaded app_info's, use eithier the one in the opening post in this thread with your flops figures, or the one you posted earlier in this thread,
amend (with Notepad) the AK_V8 entries so they read the same as the actual file names,
Double Check that the apps filenames and the app_info entries agree, Copy files to your setiathome folder including your special app_info.xml

Shut down Boinc 6.6.20, copy all the files (Don't move them, you might need to try again),
Start up Boinc, cancel any remaining downloads for apps/.dlls, Boinc should see that you have them now,
If not shut down Boinc and copy them across again,
The Astropulse WU's that you've started should be no problem.

Claggy

This would be a well app_info.xml for only CUDA ?

Message 882987

Thanks!

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Thank's Claggy for the detail when I get back from work I will apply as you say.
Just looked at the i7 doing the 8 AP's and they are 42% in 9 hrs so they should be finished by the time I get home.
At that rate that would be approx 10k rac when out of the pending pool.running the Cuda along side whould help S&H no end.
12 Hr shift now.
Thanks

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This would be a well app_info.xml for only CUDA ?

Message 882987

Thanks!

See my Post.

@ Claggy

Thanks for reply!


@ all

I don't know why I'm the only one which see 1/2 CUDA performance with > BOINC V6.6.11 .
But.. hmm..


I use now all stock.. BOINC and apps..
I see in BOINC V6.6.20 that the MB CPU apps have 'low' priority.
The CUDA apps have 'lower as normal' priority.
For example - boinc.exe have 'normal' priority.
[TaskManager]

If I use an app_info.xml with opt. MB AK V8.0 app [CPU] and stock MB CUDA app [GPU], I would see the same priorities?


BTW.
..'bad' VLARs with stock CUDA app.. ~ 7 times slower as 'normal' ARs.. huhh.. buhh.. :-(
[~ 8 min. vs. ~ 55 min.]

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Great info. Thanks to all that helped. I managed to get everything up and working with only 1 or 2 errors on different machines. Fixed them right away and everything is ok now. I will leave NNT set until my que is down to nothing and then let them fill back up to see what I get.

Not a single lost WU. Backing up that Boinc directory is critical!

Bravo.

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bump , good thread!

After a LOT of reading and trial and error, I think I've got a good version of the app_info file. I ran a trial of it last night, and it only would run one CUDA, whereas I have two GPU's. I've found the answer to that in the co-processor explanation, and have reverted that back to one instead of two.

But I'm still a bit puzzled by this section:

</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>
<flops>12000000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>


What is the basis for the value in <avg_ncpus> and <max_ncpus>? For the record, I'm running a dual core processor, and the previously mentioned two GPU's.

Finally, my trial run last night resulted in BOINC 6.6.20 downloading almost 800 WU's. most of which were MB 608's. I'm sure my calcs for the various classes based on fpops are correct, and BOINC approximated my GPU's at 65Gflops, so I used 13000000000 flops in 608. But I clearly missed something, as the amount of work downloaded is way beyond the 2 day cache I try to maintain. Help!!??

After a LOT of reading and trial and error, I think I've got a good version of the app_info file. I ran a trial of it last night, and it only would run one CUDA, whereas I have two GPU's. I've found the answer to that in the co-processor explanation, and have reverted that back to one instead of two.

But I'm still a bit puzzled by this section:

</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>
<flops>12000000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>


What is the basis for the value in <avg_ncpus> and <max_ncpus>? For the record, I'm running a dual core processor, and the previously mentioned two GPU's.

Finally, my trial run last night resulted in BOINC 6.6.20 downloading almost 800 WU's. most of which were MB 608's. I'm sure my calcs for the various classes based on fpops are correct, and BOINC approximated my GPU's at 65Gflops, so I used 13000000000 flops in 608. But I clearly missed something, as the amount of work downloaded is way beyond the 2 day cache I try to maintain. Help!!??

The <avg_ncpus> tells boinc how much of a cpu it will use on average. The <max_ncpus> tells it the maximum cpu it will use.

As you can see approx .13 (or 13%) of a cpu is required, the rest is available for boinc to run a cpu task with.

At the beginning of the boinc log (look under the messages tab) it will display details about your gpus. If it found 2 then it will say what they are. Assuming that it finds 2 then it should run 2 cpu wu at the same time as 2 cuda wu.

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