...It does have a problem when you mix different cards with different f_pops as you can only give BOINC one value.

MarkJ, could you elaborate a little on that statement, please? I have a system I am running the cache down on to install your optimized apps, and have 3 EVGA 8400GS cards, and one EVGA GTX 260, so I am a little concerned about issues I may run into after reading your above comment. Thanks much!

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...It does have a problem when you mix different cards with different f_pops as you can only give BOINC one value.

MarkJ, could you elaborate a little on that statement, please? I have a system I am running the cache down on to install your optimized apps, and have 3 EVGA 8400GS cards, and one EVGA GTX 260, so I am a little concerned about issues I may run into after reading your above comment. Thanks much!

89 + 5 + 5 + 5 GFLOPS = 104 / 4 = 26 GFLOPS average. That's the raw figure you should base the app_info.xml <flops> in the CUDA app section on. The Scheduler will try to give you enough CUDA work to keep those 4 GPUs busy, the 260 will do a lot more of it than the PCI 8400GS cards.

                                                               Joe

...It does have a problem when you mix different cards with different f_pops as you can only give BOINC one value.

MarkJ, could you elaborate a little on that statement, please? I have a system I am running the cache down on to install your optimized apps, and have 3 EVGA 8400GS cards, and one EVGA GTX 260, so I am a little concerned about issues I may run into after reading your above comment. Thanks much!

The problem is the cards are capable of different speeds. The number that we are giving BOINC in the app_info is used so it can figure out how much work you would normally be able to process, just for Seti cuda. This in turn effects how much work BOINC will download.

You could take the approach Josef has suggested and average them out. This is probably the best approach for what you are doing.

If you had access to another machine perhaps it would be wiser to put the 3 8400GS's in one and the GTX260 in another. This way you could have different <f_pops> values for each machine. It would also save stressing one power supply by running 4 cards off it.

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Well, I could move it to another board, as these are all just boards sitting out on the desk, they aren't actually in cases. I am trying to get my fastest non-I7 system loaded up with cards to see how well it will do, it has one PCI-E slot and 3 PCI slots, along with a couple shortie (I think PCI-E 1x?) slots, and would like to see how much one machine can handle. I am running a PCP&C 1000w power supply, so that shouldn't be a problem, the PCI cards don't even have external power connectors, they're running off the PCI bus. Do you know if anyone makes a shortie PCI-E single slot video card? It would be interesting to see if I could run 6 video cards in one machine... :D

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Do you know if anyone makes a shortie PCI-E single slot video card?

The only ones at Newegg are Radeons, so no help there.

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What am I doing wrong?

I have an EMachines Celeron C2D 2.0 ssse3 capable with an 8500GT 512MB graphics card estimated at 5Gflops. I have BM 6.6.20.
My FPOPS are 1864335675.

I have put the necessary files in my setiathome folder and did the math for each type of workunits.I ran my cache down to zero but when I put the app_info file in and restarted BM it erases the setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe file and gives the message url cannot be found to download it again thus causing all 6.08 WUs to error out in downloading. I copied MarkJ's app_info exactly, changed the numbers to my specs, and placed it in my setiathome folder.

This is my app_info file:

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>4194755270</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>4847272757</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<flops>3269311494</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>
<flops>1000000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>

I have too much work right now to let it run back down so I will have to detach and start all over after I get some recommendations from you guys.

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Just to add a bit more information and to bump this up a little, here is the first few lines from the start of Boinc Manager...
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.6.20 for windows_intelx86
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Running under account perry
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E1400 @ 2.00GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13]
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni mmx
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Editon, Service Pack 1, (06.00.6001.00)
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Memory: 3.25 GB physical, 6.73 GB virtual
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Disk: 288.09 GB total, 219.87 GB free
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM CUDA device: GeForce 8500 GT (driver version 18208, CUDA version 1.1, 512MB, est. 5GFLOPS)
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Not using a proxy
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4731257; location: home; project prefs: home
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 01-Mar-2009 20:10:17)
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home Computer location: home
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Reading preferences override file
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1663.16MB
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2993.69MB
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM Preferences limit disk usage to 100.00GB
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home Restarting task 09fe09ab.32131.890.11.8.158_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 608
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home Restarting task 09fe09ac.3737.12751.6.8.152_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
4/6/2009 9:08:47 PM SETI@home Restarting task 09fe09ac.3737.13160.6.8.240_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

There's no start up message saying this:

05/04/2009 20:57:20 SETI@home Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

Check your app_info is actually called app_info.xml

Claggy

read your app_info with notepad and make sure it doesnt have any "-" in it.
Make sure the app_info is installed in the correct folder.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

There is no app_info file in the start-up because it isn't working with it in there. If I put it back in it will erase the MB_6.08.exe and wipe out all the 6.08 WUs I have. It is running now as stock.

I copied the file to notepad and made sure it was saved as an XML without the .txt sneaking in there at the end.Then I placed it in my setiathome folder where I have placed every other app_info for all the rest of the opt-apps before this one. I have gone over this so many times I'm going creoss-eyed but I can't figure out where the mistake is.

Sorry to sound a bit put out. I appreciate the help but am just frustrated about this not working.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

There is no app_info file in the start-up because it isn't working with it in there. If I put it back in it will erase the MB_6.08.exe and wipe out all the 6.08 WUs I have. It is running now as stock.

I copied the file to notepad and made sure it was saved as an XML without the .txt sneaking in there at the end.Then I placed it in my setiathome folder where I have placed every other app_info for all the rest of the opt-apps before this one. I have gone over this so many times I'm going creoss-eyed but I can't figure out where the mistake is.

Sorry to sound a bit put out. I appreciate the help but am just frustrated about this not working.

Are you trying to run optimized CPU apps with the stock CUDA app? Or optimized CPU with optimized CUDA?

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Optimized CPU apps would be fine. My GPU is about as fast as it will get. I don't think there are any optimized GPU apps or at least I don't know of any.

I am running 6.6.20 and am trying to put MarkJ's app_info modified to my system in to the mix.I put all the files (AK V8, AP_5.00, AP_5.03, setiathome_mb6.08, ect.) in my setiathome folder along with this ap_info and fired up Boinc Manager. As soon as it saw the app_info it erased my mb_6.08 file and all the mb 6.08 WU that had started to download. It then told me it couldn't find the url for the setiathome_MB_6.08 file to download it.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Optimized CPU apps would be fine. My GPU is about as fast as it will get. I don't think there are any optimized GPU apps or at least I don't know of any.

Raistmer has worked very hard on offering optimized CUDA apps, and I think he releases them paired up with optimized CPU apps.

I am running 6.6.20 and am trying to put MarkJ's app_info modified to my system in to the mix.I put all the files (AK V8, AP_5.00, AP_5.03, setiathome_mb6.08, ect.) in my setiathome folder along with this ap_info and fired up Boinc Manager. As soon as it saw the app_info it erased my mb_6.08 file and all the mb 6.08 WU that had started to download. It then told me it couldn't find the url for the setiathome_MB_6.08 file to download it.

Hmmm... sounds like a problem with the app_info.xml file, though nothing is jumping out at me at the moment.

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Optimized CPU apps would be fine. My GPU is about as fast as it will get. I don't think there are any optimized GPU apps or at least I don't know of any.

I am running 6.6.20 and am trying to put MarkJ's app_info modified to my system in to the mix.I put all the files (AK V8, AP_5.00, AP_5.03, setiathome_mb6.08, ect.) in my setiathome folder along with this ap_info and fired up Boinc Manager. As soon as it saw the app_info it erased my mb_6.08 file and all the mb 6.08 WU that had started to download. It then told me it couldn't find the url for the setiathome_MB_6.08 file to download it.

You didn't check what i posted on lunatics earlier did you?

Your error:

<core_client_version>6.6.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
app_version download error: couldn't get input files:
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86_cuda.exe</file_name>
<error_code>-197</error_code>
<error_message>user requested transfer abort</error_message>
</file_xfer_error>

your app_info entry:

<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>

They are Not the same, Result: the app which isn't referenced in the app_info gets deleted.

Claggy

your app_info entry:

<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>

They are not the same, Result: the app which isn't referenced in the app_info gets deleted.

I was going to suggest an improperly referenced filename in the app_info.xml file, but I wasn't sure as it looked correct to me while skimming across the one he posted. I should have gone with my gut and looked closer.

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Well, this is fun. Claggy, I just saw your post over on Lunatics and checked the file in my setiathome folder. It also has the double underscore. The problem is that file downloaded from SETI while I was running without the app_info. With the app_info it deletes that file along with any 6.08 WUs I might have and tries to download the same file with just one underscore.

Should I change the app_info to just one underscore, delete that file myself and see if Seti will download the right file? I'm surprised that I'm having this problem as many others are using this same app_info with no problem like this. :(

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Ok, panic over. I tried changing the app_info file to just one underscore, messed everything up, so I completely removed Boinc from my computer. Reinstalled 6.6.20, changed my app_info file back to the double underscore version as that is the way it downloaded, put the extra files back in and restarted. Made sure all downloaded WUs were off my machine, resumed network activity and everything started working again as normal.

Since I've got it set to just two days cache it only downloaded three cuda WUs and two AP V5s. This is ok since it is highly overestimating the times to completion on them. I'm sure once they have run for a while more will follow.

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where would I go to get the AP/MB combos for an intel i7 machine and a amd phenomII machine both with cuda????

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I am running Boinc 6.6.17 on my i7 920 with vista 64 bit o/s.
1xnvidia 9600gt video
I have done the math and have the 64bit apps in the correct folder.
I have made the adjustment to the app_info file,but when I run Boinc Manager
I get parse error in app_info.xml;check xml syntax.
Could someone be so kind as to take a look and give me guidence.
Here is my app_info.xml file.


<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>5699624678</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>6586232961</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx64</platform>
<flops>4433041416</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx64</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.127970</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.127970</max_ncpus>
<flops>7400000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>




Thanks in advance

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I get parse error in app_info.xml;check xml syntax.
Could someone be so kind as to take a look and give me guidence.

The first thing that jumps out at me is that the platform entry should be:

<platform>windows_x86_64</platform>

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