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Message 873048 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 21:27:35 UTC - in response to Message 873043.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.

It's sad to think we'd be so much further along today if Apollo (moon program in general) hadn't been a single goal, but a "milestone" goal that was 1 step in a larger broader initiative that would have continued w/ a colony, Mars exploration, Mars + colony....Jupiter manned mission etc.

40 years of continuing progress at the pace of the Moon initiative, might have actually come pretty close to A.C.C. & Stanley Kubrick's vision.

Perhaps my 3 Y.O. will live to see the vision realized in his lifetime........

Don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere that if the "Dark Ages" hadn't happened, we might be well beyond Mars colonization by now, technologically-speaking.


No Mike, you heard right. I've often come across that little factoid in my readings of different books and articles. - K.C.
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Message 873056 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 21:58:45 UTC - in response to Message 873048.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.

It's sad to think we'd be so much further along today if Apollo (moon program in general) hadn't been a single goal, but a "milestone" goal that was 1 step in a larger broader initiative that would have continued w/ a colony, Mars exploration, Mars + colony....Jupiter manned mission etc.

40 years of continuing progress at the pace of the Moon initiative, might have actually come pretty close to A.C.C. & Stanley Kubrick's vision.

Perhaps my 3 Y.O. will live to see the vision realized in his lifetime........

Don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere that if the "Dark Ages" hadn't happened, we might be well beyond Mars colonization by now, technologically-speaking.


No Mike, you heard right. I've often come across that little factoid in my readings of different books and articles. - K.C.

Hmmmm..... Good to know that what I heard/read wasn't some sort of "heresay".
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Message 873058 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 22:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 873043.  

Don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere that if the "Dark Ages" hadn't happened, we might be well beyond Mars colonization by now, technologically-speaking.


Its always fun to think "what could have been if I/we didn't do this/that didn't happen", but I think it happened because it was supposed to happen. I think that any advancing civilization has its own period of a Dark Age no matter the planet.
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Message 873070 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 22:39:08 UTC - in response to Message 873043.  
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"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.


LOL! Yikes! Yeah...
9 years in & I'm still thinking 20th :P
Should really stop listening to XM 80s, buy a Disturbed album & step into the new millennium ; > )

Gooottt....tooo...leeettt....iiitttt....goooo.......
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Message 873119 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 0:23:56 UTC - in response to Message 873070.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.


LOL! Yikes! Yeah...
9 years in & I'm still thinking 20th :P
Should really stop listening to XM 80s, buy a Disturbed album & step into the new millennium ; > )

Gooottt....tooo...leeettt....iiitttt....goooo.......


I've been listening to old Black Sabbath from the '60s and '70s all day. ;)
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Message 873125 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 0:38:35 UTC - in response to Message 873119.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.


LOL! Yikes! Yeah...
9 years in & I'm still thinking 20th :P
Should really stop listening to XM 80s, buy a Disturbed album & step into the new millennium ; > )

Gooottt....tooo...leeettt....iiitttt....goooo.......


I've been listening to old Black Sabbath from the '60s and '70s all day. ;)
Have you ever hear MR. Roboto with a few 200w/channel amps and an 18 inch subwoofer behind it??

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Message 873128 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 0:49:01 UTC - in response to Message 873125.  
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"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.


LOL! Yikes! Yeah...
9 years in & I'm still thinking 20th :P
Should really stop listening to XM 80s, buy a Disturbed album & step into the new millennium ; > )

Gooottt....tooo...leeettt....iiitttt....goooo.......


I've been listening to old Black Sabbath from the '60s and '70s all day. ;)
Have you ever hear MR. Roboto with a few 200w/channel amps and an 18 inch subwoofer behind it??


I'm afraid we might be taking this too far off topic, but to answer your question, my setup is only 110w/ch with 4x15"s w/build-in subs. I once connected a 12" sub to my setup but it actually had no noticeable effect on the listening experience (I'm assuming because the built-ins were better than the external 12").
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Message 873472 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 18:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 873119.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.


LOL! Yikes! Yeah...
9 years in & I'm still thinking 20th :P
Should really stop listening to XM 80s, buy a Disturbed album & step into the new millennium ; > )

Gooottt....tooo...leeettt....iiitttt....goooo.......


I've been listening to old Black Sabbath from the '60s and '70s all day. ;)


Prefer Deep Purple (Mk 2), Blackmore, Gillan, Glover, Lord and Paice.....definitely last century and long may it reign.


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Message 873477 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 18:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 873472.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

Uh, it is the 21st century; you must mean the 22nd.


LOL! Yikes! Yeah...
9 years in & I'm still thinking 20th :P
Should really stop listening to XM 80s, buy a Disturbed album & step into the new millennium ; > )

Gooottt....tooo...leeettt....iiitttt....goooo.......


I've been listening to old Black Sabbath from the '60s and '70s all day. ;)


Prefer Deep Purple (Mk 2), Blackmore, Gillan, Glover, Lord and Paice.....definitely last century and long may it reign.


My good friend Larry, who died almost two years ago now :_( was really into Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Sabbath and the like. His favorite band was KISS though. Too bad we didn't have enough cash to go to KISS's reunion tour that came by here about 4 hears ago.

Concerts don't seem to be as much fun anymore without him.
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Message 873545 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 22:51:53 UTC - in response to Message 873477.  
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.... Too bad we didn't have enough cash to go to KISS's reunion tour that came by here about 4 hears ago.


Saw Kiss's reunion tour & Psycho Circus Tour.
AWESOME!

I'll forever kick myself for passing-up 6th row floor seats for P.Floyd's Division Bell Tour.
I thought, "Nah...never liked The Wall that much, Momentary Lapse of Reason was OK....."
Then I listened to Pulse & saw Live @ Earls Court....whereby my mouth hit the floor..... : > O

Bought P.F. Live @ Earl's Court on Laser Disc & then waited impatiently for release to DVD after all these years. In 06' prayers were finally answered.

God, I love to throw that into the player, crank-up the juice till the house shakes and watch it on the plasma. Sends a cold-chill up my spine every time I watch it : > )
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Message 873580 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009, 0:50:36 UTC - in response to Message 873545.  
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I'll forever kick myself for passing-up 6th row floor seats for P.Floyd's Division Bell Tour.
I thought, "Nah...never liked The Wall that much, Momentary Lapse of Reason was OK....."
Then I listened to Pulse & saw Live @ Earls Court....whereby my mouth hit the floor..... : > O

My first ever concert was the Division Bell tour. (Toronto, 1994)

Strictly nose-bleed section but, with Pink Floyd, that’s probably best as, even at that distance, the wattage made my body vibrate and the best of the light and laser show could only be appreciated from a distance.

I've been to dozens of concerts since. Nothing even comes close.
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Message 873639 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009, 4:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 873580.  

I'll forever kick myself for passing-up 6th row floor seats for P.Floyd's Division Bell Tour.
I thought, "Nah...never liked The Wall that much, Momentary Lapse of Reason was OK....."
Then I listened to Pulse & saw Live @ Earls Court....whereby my mouth hit the floor..... : > O

My first ever concert was the Division Bell tour. (Toronto, 1994)

Strictly nose-bleed section but, with Pink Floyd, that’s probably best as, even at that distance, the wattage made my body vibrate and the best of the light and laser show could only be appreciated from a distance.

I've been to dozens of concerts since. Nothing even comes close.


Used to concert hop w/ a buddy of mine. He had been to just over 400 at the time, offered & I turned him down on that one. Came back & said "OMFG...the best show I've ever seen! Dude, you totally missed-out!".

I still feel like crap thinking bout' it 15 years later : < (
You set the bar really high w/ your first concert!
Congrats on being there!!! : > )

Change of group: WHo the heck ever would have thought Allison Krauss would be the reason we don't get to see a Zeppelin reunion tour!?!???? Yeah, OK...no John Bonham, but Jason sounds just like his dad & son "stepping-in" for Pop for this type of deal is A-OK w/ me. Really wanted this to happen in early 90's, 'cept Jimmy Page was too busy w/ David Coverdale album & tour @ the time.

Now Bonham, Jones and Page are "in" but Plant doesn't want to give-up on his collaboration & tour w/ Krauss. Heard somewhere they were offered over $400M for tour and album deal. Largest ever.

Would have traveled cross-country and paid stupid $ to see Zeppelin in concert.....

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Message 873643 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009, 4:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 873639.  
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I'll forever kick myself for passing-up 6th row floor seats for P.Floyd's Division Bell Tour.
I thought, "Nah...never liked The Wall that much, Momentary Lapse of Reason was OK....."
Then I listened to Pulse & saw Live @ Earls Court....whereby my mouth hit the floor..... : > O

My first ever concert was the Division Bell tour. (Toronto, 1994)

Strictly nose-bleed section but, with Pink Floyd, that’s probably best as, even at that distance, the wattage made my body vibrate and the best of the light and laser show could only be appreciated from a distance.

I've been to dozens of concerts since. Nothing even comes close.


Used to concert hop w/ a buddy of mine. He had been to just over 400 at the time, offered & I turned him down on that one. Came back & said "OMFG...the best show I've ever seen! Dude, you totally missed-out!".

I still feel like crap thinking bout' it 15 years later : < (
You set the bar really high w/ your first concert!
Congrats on being there!!! : > )

Change of group: WHo the heck ever would have thought Allison Krauss would be the reason we don't get to see a Zeppelin reunion tour!?!???? Yeah, OK...no John Bonham, but Jason sounds just like his dad & son "stepping-in" for Pop for this type of deal is A-OK w/ me. Really wanted this to happen in early 90's, 'cept Jimmy Page was too busy w/ David Coverdale album & tour @ the time.

Now Bonham, Jones and Page are "in" but Plant doesn't want to give-up on his collaboration & tour w/ Krauss. Heard somewhere they were offered over $400M for tour and album deal. Largest ever.

Would have traveled cross-country and paid stupid $ to see Zeppelin in concert.....


Re Page and Krauss
Yeah, but rumour is that Page and Krauss are, well, you know, playing patty-cakes. Money can never beat that.

RE; The Pink Floyd (sans Waters)
Get a copy of the Division Bell tour DVD, widescreen, headphones on, and crank it to eleven. (I don’t do drugs personally, but smoke a few if you got ‘em). The experience is pretty close and the sound is likely better.
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Message 873647 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009, 5:21:08 UTC - in response to Message 872963.  

"HAL"; 1 letter each away from "IBM"; the article also reminds me of "Colossus: The Forbin Project"


2001 still mesmerizes me every time I watch it.
It's quite interesting to see movie "tech" that we actually surpassed by the real 2001, and the tech that we won't likely accomplish before the 21st century.

It's sad to think we'd be so much further along today if Apollo (moon program in general) hadn't been a single goal, but a "milestone" goal that was 1 step in a larger broader initiative that would have continued w/ a colony, Mars exploration, Mars + colony....Jupiter manned mission etc.

40 years of continuing progress at the pace of the Moon initiative, might have actually come pretty close to A.C.C. & Stanley Kubrick's vision.

Perhaps my 3 Y.O. will live to see the vision realized in his lifetime........

Jupiter? The home of Lethal Radiation? Leave that place to the Robots.
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Message 873656 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009, 6:07:21 UTC

I wouldn’t worry too much about all of this.

Skynet will never happen simply because we think it might happen.

History teaches one very firm lesson: whatever does happen will be unexpected.
Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas.

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Message 873677 - Posted: 8 Mar 2009, 9:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 873656.  
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I wouldn’t worry too much about all of this.

Skynet will never happen simply because we think it might happen.

History teaches one very firm lesson: whatever does happen will be unexpected.


I dont tinks so.

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