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Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30676 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
I acts like one too. At todays race I notice an extra mechanic whos job was to clean the front wings. I should add that part of the wing change was to make it easier to pass. With the older, larger wing, the cars could not get close to each other. The air was just too distrubed. They are also trying to make the sport more exciting. |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
In F1, the primary reasons for the threatened split, were Max Mosley and his autocratic style of governance and the teams having no say on the rules, he was trying to bring in. How can you have budget caps, when the rules keep changing on a whim? Lets be quite honest here, if you keep changing the rules every season (as it seemed), you are creating additional costs....that nice 3 litre V10 that once worked so well and had a development path, became a rather expensive piece of scrap metal, when the regs changed to using a 2.4 litre V8. You can't just saw off 2 cylinders (both engines are 300cc per cylinder) and expect it to work. About the only things that could have been used from the bare V10 engine, would've been the pistons, rings, rods, a few bearings and some nuts and bolts - the rest goes in the bin. Any engineer, knows that unit cost reductions come with longevity of production, with a development path, production volume and this just wasn't happening. A smaller engine, with the smaller masses involved, will also tend to be one that will rev higher. Mosley, who is not an engineer, but a barrister (lawyer) just couldn't see this blinding piece of logic. The same principles for the regulation changes to the front and rear wings, also apply. Changes cost money. Gone are the days when the engineers for racing teams, were enthusiasts who basically worked for the love of it and a couple of drinks in the pub! Good engineers, also cost money. Time spent, prototyping, testing, modifying and making something brand new, costs money - lots of it. The smaller teams, who used 'customer engines', were not the ones who bore the brunt of the costs involved with making new engines etc - it was the manufacturers like Mercedes, Toyota, Ferrari, Renault and formerly, Honda. While an agreement has been reached, I can't see why there should not be, super-charged or turbo-charged engines allowed to be used, with capacity restrictions and allowances also made to permit even diesel engines to be used. Years ago, in F1, we had cars with turbo-charged engines using active suspension...now look at it! Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
The first details of the peace deal between rebel FOTA teams and the FIA are beginning to emerge. Max Mosley, now to step down as FIA President in October, announced after Wednesday's World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris that a cost reductions package had paved the way to a compromise deal between the warring sides. Peace in F1: the first details LETS BEGIN IN 2010 |
Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
Formula One came to the very brink of losing the greater majority of its teams and drivers in favour of a breakaway series, but a last-minute compromise deal worked out between the FIA and the eight members of the Formula One Teams Association has now secured a few years of peace. FIA publishes 2010 details and entry list LETS BEGIN IN 2010 |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30676 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
It's good to see that they reached and agreement. Two open wheel championships is not good for the sport. Look at the US. We had IRL and Indy cars. Not sure if we still do. Never bothered to check them out. There is and should only be 1 F1. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34380 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I totally agree with you Carlos. Like i´ve expected Max Mosley has to go to save formula one. Fota has shown the FIA can´t do what ever they want. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
I will be pleased, when Mad Max has actually gone. His tenure has been a rather troublesome one, to say the least. Perhaps we will see some of the 'dumped circuits' make a very welcome returm to the F1 season and be rid of the 'staged events'. I might even hold my breath.....but not for too long! lol Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
ScanMan Send message Joined: 30 Jul 05 Posts: 4 Credit: 14,649 RAC: 0 |
I will be pleased, when Mad Max has actually gone. His tenure has been a rather troublesome one, to say the least. Perhaps we will see some of the 'dumped circuits' make a very welcome returm to the F1 season and be rid of the 'staged events'. I might even hold my breath.....but not for too long! lol How many years has he been linked to F1? |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
I think Mad Max has been the 'big cheese' at the FIA for about 15 years. All you have to do, is spot when the really silly rules started coming in, like, no tyre changes (potentially life-threatening) etc, etc..... Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
ScanMan Send message Joined: 30 Jul 05 Posts: 4 Credit: 14,649 RAC: 0 |
I think Mad Max has been the 'big cheese' at the FIA for about 15 years. All you have to do, is spot when the really silly rules started coming in, like, no tyre changes (potentially life-threatening) etc, etc..... How in the heck did he get his current job? Did someone owe him A favor? |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
One can only conclude that, as per any lawyer, he spoke loudly to some people and said nothing to others, That, is probably something you could trace back to his involvement with his father's politics (Oswald Mosley - in 1930's UK). Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30676 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
A former barrister and amateur racing driver, Mosley was a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents Formula One constructors. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a long-standing dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the then governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. |
Iona Send message Joined: 12 Jul 07 Posts: 790 Credit: 22,438,118 RAC: 0 |
A former barrister and amateur racing driver, Mosley was a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents Formula One constructors. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a long-standing dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the then governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. Quite incrdible, really, that he 'forgot his roots', but then, it also says much about him and how out of touch he has become. I was aware of his involvement with March, which made his actions in recent years even more difficult to understand. Oh well, at least he is going.... Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive! |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
A former barrister and amateur racing driver, Mosley was a founder and co-owner of March Engineering, a successful racing car constructor and Formula One racing team. He looked after legal and commercial issues for the company between 1969 and 1977. In the late 1970s, Mosley became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA), the body which represents Formula One constructors. In this role he drew up the first version of the Concorde Agreement, which settled a long-standing dispute between FOCA and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA), the then governing body of Formula One. Mosley was elected president of FISA in 1991 and became president of the FIA, FISA's parent body, in 1993. Umm, don't go counting chickens just yet: It is apparent a trade-off has unfolded - with the current teams now due to be on the grid for 2010, and without Mosley as ruler. It has to be remembered though that five years ago, in June 2004, Mosley announced he would stand down from his position in October of that year - only to rescind his decision a month later. from The Grauniad I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
Aston Martin LMP 1 car LETS BEGIN IN 2010 |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30676 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
Aston Martin LMP 1 car Ever since I saw the movie La Mans, I liked those colors. Do you know you can actually buy a replica of the PORSCHE 917K You can have your copy with a race motor or street motor. |
Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
Aston Martin LMP 1 car I have A 1:18 scale from Auto Art of the Porsche 917 that was filmed in the movie. I would like to drive one some day. LETS BEGIN IN 2010 |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34380 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I once drove a Porsche street car at the Hockenheim race track. It was a 928 S it was amazing. 330 KM/h was the fastest i´ve reached. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Matthew Love Send message Joined: 26 Sep 99 Posts: 7763 Credit: 879,151 RAC: 0 |
I always like the 928S especially the sound when take off !! :o) LETS BEGIN IN 2010 |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 30676 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
Want to drive a Formula 1 race car? Fans are invited to sample the new Abu Dhabi circuit. If you want to try your hands behind the wheel of a virtual F1 car, here is the link to the Yas Marina virtual experience. Get ready for a big download and have fun. |
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