What makes the difference the opp app you are using or the machine?
Or the o/clocking?

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What makes the difference the opp app you are using or the machine?
Or the o/clocking?

All three. A machine overclocked well enough running on decent CPU architecture (or GPU) using an optimized app. If overclocking is not your thing, then a fast CPU using an optimized app is your next best option.

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I understand the i7 920 that I have running can be o/clocked but I
Have to get to grips with the opp app's first LOL.
To many things for this brain to take in at the moment.
Dave

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This are the two 'Out Of Memory' errors:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1195475990


[This error I posted already in this thread]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1196613052
...

I give your V10 CUDA app again and the opt. AK V8.0 a try.. :-)
..I'm curious and confused that I have now well CUDA performance with BOINC V6.6.20.. ;-)

Hmm.. I don't know why..

But.. I got now 3 more errors.. 'out of memory':
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1203126308
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1203126304
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1203125400

My rig isn't OCed.. only the GPUs from the manufacturer.

'out of memory' is meant the GPU- or the mobo- RAM ?

What could be the prob?


EDIT:
BTW.
Which .dll's are the best choice?
From the V10 CUDA app?
I read that some had probs with newer .dll's.

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Looks like system RAM, not GPU's.
Try both DLL sets and use what best suited to your system.
If this is new RAM check it with some memory test utility...

Are you sure? ;-D

..kidding..


The 800 MHz RAM ran @ 944 MHz @ 5-5-5-18 @ 2.1 V - in the QX6700 rig for 1 1/2 years. [with active cooling]
Now in the AMD 940 BE rig @ 800 MHz @ 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8 V* [all AUTO]
This are Corsair xms2 6400C4 sticks. 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8 V stock or 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1 V .
With memtest [@ QX6700 rig in past] I had some [~ 3 - 5] errors only @ 4-4-4-12, 5-5-5-18 worked fine. [800 MHz]
O.K., a well reason for warranty change in past.. but the Core2 was better/faster with 944/5-5-5-18 as 788/4-4-4-12, so it was O.K. ..

If I remember correct, since your 'GPU WU start opt.' I have this errors.

I'm the only one..? If yes - O.K., then it's my RAM.. ;-)

[* I guess the voltage]
Is there a prog with which I can see the RAM voltage in Windows?
Current at AUTO, so maybe not enough or to low voltage..


Since BOINC V6.6.20 your nice team mod isn't needed anymore.
Maybe you can open a new thread with the latest available CUDA versions? [V10/11]
[incl. dll's and needed app_info.xml]

Or maybe a hint to the app_info.xml thread?
app_info for AP500, AP503, MB603 and MB608


Which/where are the .dll-versions from you?
Please could you post where to find?
Or this are the .dll's from your V7 and V10 mod. This are the only different .dll-versions from you?
[in the 1st posts of the threads @ lunatics.kwsn.net?]

I could use the stock Berkeley .dll's also with your mod?
Or what's different?
I have no knowledge for what the .dll's are needed.. I'm not the profi.. I'm an 'amateur'.. ;-)

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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1195495666
icfft=86040, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1190297258
icfft=94365, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error

[This error I posted already in this thread]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1195160891
icfft=86665, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error

Now my 4th..
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1202303914
icfft=84509, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error


[@ all - I'm the only one which see this errors? *confused*]

Or I'm the only one which see/look to the error column in the overview. ;-D [Now it's easy to find because of the choice of the look]
But need also some time, because of the 'bad WU header's '.. ;-)

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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1195495666
icfft=86040, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1190297258
icfft=94365, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error

[This error I posted already in this thread]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1195160891
icfft=86665, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error

Now my 4th..
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1202303914
icfft=84509, PoT_activity=0, PoT_freq_bin=-1SETI@home error -12 Unknown error


[@ all - I'm the only one which see this errors? *confused*]

Or I'm the only one which see/look to the error column in the overview. ;-D [Now it's easy to find because of the choice of the look]
But need also some time, because of the 'bad WU header's '.. ;-)

I've only seen Error -6 when I ran two gpus of My GTX295 video card and processed 2D video at the same time and yes this was at the 295's stock speed too, So I went back to using 1 gpu instead and have overclocked the GTX295 to 641MHz(briefly tried 648MHz but got an error -6 according to BV 1.4.2), Fan is on 100% and ram(1101MHz) and shaders(1382MHz) are overclocked and I'm seeing no problems.

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Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST

[@ all - I'm the only one which see this errors? *confused*]

Or I'm the only one which see/look to the error column in the overview. ;-D [Now it's easy to find because of the choice of the look]
But need also some time, because of the 'bad WU header's '.. ;-)

You're not quite alone, I reported one here.

They certainly are easier to find with the task list filter. Also, I don't even look at ones with <1 sec CPU time anymore, since they all seem to be VLAR kills.

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I've only seen Error -6 when I ran two gpus of My GTX295 video card and processed 2D video at the same time and yes this was at the 295's stock speed too, So I went back to using 1 gpu instead and have overclocked the GTX295 to 641MHz(briefly tried 648MHz but got an error -6 according to BV 1.4.2), Fan is on 100% and ram(1101MHz) and shaders(1382MHz) are overclocked and I'm seeing no problems.

For Raistmer it's for interest the -12 error.
Because it's a BUG in the current CUDA code. [stock - and because of this also in his app]

You let run the fan at 100 % ??
Woohoo.. I hope the rig is very far from the place you live..
Because I read the fan is veeery loud..

Because of this I bought 2 x GTX260 Core216 and not a GTX295 - the GPUs are much hotter and the fan must turn much faster for 2 GPUs as only 1 GPU in the same GPU case.

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You're not quite alone, I reported one here.

They certainly are easier to find with the task list filter. Also, I don't even look at ones with <1 sec CPU time anymore, since they all seem to be VLAR kills.

Ops.. I didn't saw..

You are right.. the ~ 1 sec. errors are only from the 'VLAR kill'..
The -12 error occurs in the task process.. so you see some seconds of processing..

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I've only seen Error -6 when I ran two gpus of My GTX295 video card and processed 2D video at the same time and yes this was at the 295's stock speed too, So I went back to using 1 gpu instead and have overclocked the GTX295 to 641MHz(briefly tried 648MHz but got an error -6 according to BV 1.4.2), Fan is on 100% and ram(1101MHz) and shaders(1382MHz) are overclocked and I'm seeing no problems.

For Raistmer it's for interest the -12 error.
Because it's a BUG in the current CUDA code. [stock - and because of this also in his app]

You let run the fan at 100 % ??
Woohoo.. I hope the rig is very far from the place you live..
Because I read the fan is veeery loud..

Because of this I bought 2 x GTX260 Core216 and not a GTX295 - the GPUs are much hotter and the fan must turn much faster for 2 GPUs as only 1 GPU in the same GPU case.

Oh contraire, It's not that loud, The ATi cooling fan is much louder and so My Delta 120mm 150cfm cpu fan is slightly louder than the 295's fan and yet less loud than the ATi fan, So It's not too bad as I can hear the hdd when the head is moving around inside the hdd.

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Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST

Oh contraire, It's not that loud, The ATi cooling fan is much louder and so My Delta 120mm 150cfm cpu fan is slightly louder than the 295's fan and yet less loud than the ATi fan, So It's not too bad as I can hear the hdd when the head is moving around inside the hdd.

Hmm.. it depend what you feel as loud.. ;-)

If your Delta with 150 cfm - this must be 255 m³/h [for the europeans/germans around here.. ;-)]..
..then I guess it must be ~ 45 dBA.. huuhh.. too loud for me.. ;-D

Everything > 25 dBA is toooo loud for me.. :-)

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Oh contraire, It's not that loud, The ATi cooling fan is much louder and so My Delta 120mm 150cfm cpu fan is slightly louder than the 295's fan and yet less loud than the ATi fan, So It's not too bad as I can hear the hdd when the head is moving around inside the hdd.

Hmm.. it depend what you feel as loud.. ;-)

If your Delta with 150 cfm - this must be 255 m³/h [for the Europeans/Germans around here.. ;-)]..
..then I guess it must be ~ 45 dBA.. huuhh.. too loud for me.. ;-D

Everything > 25 dBA is too loud for me.. :-)

You get used to It, It used to be much louder in the old case which used high speed fans to get around the bottlenecks in the case design, the New case flows more air and so the stock fans(all 4) in the Coolermaster HAF 932 case are quieter and when I get enough money together for an Thermalright IFX-14 heatsink I'm going to try dual 120mm 100cfm fans to make the PC quieter still and yet still cool the cpu effectively.

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Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
The T1 Trust, T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, America's First HST

Since BOINC V6.6.20 your nice team mod isn't needed anymore.
Maybe you can open a new thread with the latest available CUDA versions? [V10/11]
[incl. dll's and needed app_info.xml]

Or maybe a hint to the app_info.xml thread?
app_info for AP500, AP503, MB603 and MB608


Which/where are the .dll-versions from you?
Please could you post where to find?
Or this are the .dll's from your V7 and V10 mod. This are the only different .dll-versions from you?
[in the 1st posts of the threads @ lunatics.kwsn.net?]

I could use the stock Berkeley .dll's also with your mod?
Or what's different?
I have no knowledge for what the .dll's are needed.. I'm not the profi.. I'm an 'amateur'.. ;-)

Yes, a new thread is really required for Raistmer's V10/V11 app in Boinc 6.6.20 standalone mode,
and a new download with the required .dll's so at least you get everything in one package. (If you really need them, or if you can make do if stock .dll's)

Claggy

Question
I seem to recall seeing a 64bit Cuda opp app but cant find the link,is there any advantage to running this app?
I have v10 running at the moment and all is well.
I have the app for vlar kill but I get errors when BM starts.
What am I doing wrong?
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

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Raistmer.. sorry, I hope you don't feel spammed from my posts.. [many in a row]
But maybe I found something interesting?



Hmm.. what happened here.. same MB AR WU but 618.8* (CPU 100.625) sec. and 301.8* (CPU 66.21875) sec.
[* Wall-clock time elapsed since last restart]

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1203882723

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1203882724



Also..
Normally a MB AR WU 0.44x - ~ 480 sec. - ~ 8 min. [~ 52 credits**]

0.547505 - 868.6 sec. - ~ 14.5 min. [45 credits**]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1203924655

1.066794 - 1042.6 sec. - ~ 17.5 min. [30 credits**]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1204001983

[** incl. CUDA overclaim!]

Is this normal?
AFAIK, < AR means > calculation time .
This is now exactly the contrary.. *confused*


Finally..
Or is the CPU/real wall clock time counter broken in BOINC V6.6.20 ?
I wasn't in front of the PC.. so I have only this counter times.


EDIT:
Or is this again my in past seen 1/2 CUDA performance lost with > BOINC V6.6.11 and your V7 and V10 CUDA app?
Current I use BOINC V6.6.20 .

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Question
I seem to recall seeing a 64bit Cuda opp app but cant find the link,is there any advantage to running this app?
I have v10 running at the moment and all is well.
I have the app for vlar kill but I get errors when BM starts.
What am I doing wrong?
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

Only CUDA 32 bit available.
On GPU you don't have 32 or 64 bit.

Or you mean the applications for the CPU?


If you have a bunch of VLARs, they will be 'killed' immediately..

Or all ARs will be errored?

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I did x64 CUDA MB build but there was no speed increase so not worth to support it for now. Maybe later it will show better results.

About CUDA performance - if the core where CUDA MB executed is occupied with some higher priority process (with priority higher than CUDA MB worker thread one) the app can experience substantional performance degradation. That's why CPU affinity mod was created (to give user with multicore CPUs ability to bound other processes on higher core numbers while leaving first core mostly for CUDA MB.) Other BOINC apps executed on even more low priority and should not interfere with CUDA MB.

Thanks for the info.
Can you tell me politly where MB_6.08_mod_VLAR_kill_CUDA.exe is put in the app_info.xml?
Here is my info file.I have input the flops do I have to put the numbers after the decimal point in? Does it look ok to run?

<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>5233741404.0081975</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>6047878955.742806</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD_GPU_CPU_team_V10.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V10.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>528</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD_GPU_CPU_team_V10.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V10.exe</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<flops>4070687758.6730425</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD_GPU_CPU_team_V10.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V10.exe</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>


<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>607</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD_GPU_CPU_team_V10.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V10.exe</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<flops>7400000000</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD_GPU_CPU_team_V10.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>



Your advice is appreciated.

Dave

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