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Alinator Send message Joined: 19 Apr 05 Posts: 4178 Credit: 4,647,982 RAC: 0 |
Well, you're right that there will be a pantload of tasks to upload when the jam finally breaks. Fortunately, the actual file to be sent is fairly small so it should clear relatively fast (typically it takes far less than a day). Download backlogs are the real killers, since they can range from a couple of hundred K to megabytes depending on what's waiting. Alinator |
nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
definately MB's this time..... |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Might have to switch to Milky Way. This is the first project that i encountered upload problems. I'm guessing you don't participate in may projects then. I've had upload problems with Rosetta too. This would be exactly why SETI recommends, per the front page, that you join multiple projects. They never said things would be smooth sailing at all times. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65745 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Have not been able to upload for about 16 hours now, more than 500 WU to upload. 4 day cache, so i guess it is not an issue at the moment. Bandwidth is maxed out at Seti@Home, I terminated My network activity in Boinc until much later. To Increase bandwidth I've read would cost $80,000.00 total. Go here and read and maybe donate to the cause and If one does donate, Make It a specific donation. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Dave Stegner Send message Joined: 20 Oct 04 Posts: 540 Credit: 65,583,328 RAC: 27 |
I realize that bandwidth is maxed, that was not my point. Looking at the server status page and Scarecrow graphs makes me wonder. Normally MB WUs return at the rate of 10 to 20 to 1 AP WU. Why does it suddenly appear easier to return an AP work unit than an MB WU ?? Presently the ratio is 2 to 1, prox. Dave |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
What sort of timescale are we looking at to clear the backlog. If the problem were to resolve itself now, i'd say about 8 hours. Grant Darwin NT |
Tribble Send message Joined: 21 Feb 02 Posts: 65 Credit: 7,978,002 RAC: 0 |
My CPU core temp has dropped to 20 degrees with nothing to do. How am I meant to save heating costs with no WUs? :P |
Ghery S. Pettit Send message Joined: 7 Nov 99 Posts: 325 Credit: 28,109,066 RAC: 82 |
I note it in nearly all 'panic threads'.. ;-) I've got those numbers set about as high as they can go, and my queue ran dry this morning. Since adding CUDA I'm burning through WUs at a prodigeous rate. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I've got those numbers set about as high as they can go, and my queue ran dry this morning. I have a 4 day cache & have only run out of work about twice in the last 5 years. Grant Darwin NT |
Jack Shaftoe Send message Joined: 19 Aug 04 Posts: 44 Credit: 2,343,242 RAC: 0 |
Someone call Buckaroo Banzai and the Hong Kong Cavaliers! Maybe they can bring SETI their Oscillation Overthruster! |
Zydor Send message Joined: 4 Oct 03 Posts: 172 Credit: 491,111 RAC: 0 |
I have a 4 day cache & have only run out of work about twice in the last 5 years. CUDA GPUs eat WUs like there is no tomorrow ..... the Well soon starts to run dry when there are infrastructure issues, due to the limit on cached CUDA WUs. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I have a 4 day cache & have only run out of work about twice in the last 5 years. 4 days is 4 days. Grant Darwin NT |
Zydor Send message Joined: 4 Oct 03 Posts: 172 Credit: 491,111 RAC: 0 |
Not with CUDA its not - the CUDA cache is finite dependent on the hardware, it bares no relation to "X Days" set in the Manager app |
john deneer Send message Joined: 16 Nov 06 Posts: 331 Credit: 20,996,606 RAC: 0 |
I realize that bandwidth is maxed, that was not my point. The most likely reason for this is given in some other message thread (server panic thread). It seems that people have gotten into trouble downloading the astropulse executable, it is not provided by the seti servers as it should. People download some astropulse 5.03 units, which then promptly fail (because the executable needed to crunch them could no be downloaded). The units are returned and the system asks for new units .... A very fast way of 'processing' astropulse :-) Only problem is that all of those units erroring out result in more downloads, and more, and more ..... Regards, John. |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
I have a 4 day cache & have only run out of work about twice in the last 5 years. Not when Boinc estimates that every 10 minute CUDA WU will take 12.5 hours (I was testing the Boinc 6.x.x - and am now grateful for the max daily download that it dumped on me a couple of days ago :) F. |
Zydor Send message Joined: 4 Oct 03 Posts: 172 Credit: 491,111 RAC: 0 |
I was testing the Boinc 6.x.x - and am now grateful for the max daily download that it dumped on me a couple of days ago :) My 9800GTX meanders along at a rate of about 50-60 WUs per half day, so I am not feeling the pain as much as others as the GPU is only 50% to SETI. (I split the time half and half with GPUGRID). I dread to think how many WUs your twin 295s are eating rolf :) |
Marc Braun Send message Joined: 1 Jun 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 8,560,086 RAC: 0 |
Now this takes some time that no uploads are accepted. Is there some issue to this, or is it a known problem? |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
I was testing the Boinc 6.x.x - and am now grateful for the max daily download that it dumped on me a couple of days ago :) I've currently got about 200 CUDA's trying to upload (they can't because network access is switched off) and 12 AP's as well. Fortunately most of the AP's still to be done are 5.03's so they will take a little longer than the 5.00's. BTW, it's only one 295 (using both cores running at Stock speed - ATM :) F. |
Graeme of Boinc UK Send message Joined: 25 Nov 02 Posts: 114 Credit: 1,250,273 RAC: 0 |
I suppose that someone will have to lift the panic button back up! Normal service will likely be restored not long after 15:00 GMT Monday! If you are really concerned about losing your standing in the race for most work done then may I suggest that you sign up for one of the other Boinc projects that exist out there on a temporary basis, i.e. set your local parameters to 1.0 days of work and be useful to some of the other Boinc projects that would really appreciate your albeit temporary crunching. Do your homework first on which projects have short turnaround times then follow these instructions........ In Boinc manager click "tools" then click "attach to project" then pick your chosen Boinc addiction. When Seti starts talking again then either dump the workunits of that project or run with them until they are exhausted and carry on as before on Seti. Graeme. |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
I suppose that someone will have to lift the panic button back up! Aww - c'mon... A good panic now and again never did anyone any harm. Clears the system - a bit like an enema really (Now there's a thought for the "pipes" at Berkeley :) F. |
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