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Harddisk crash, about 100 WU's have to be done again, sorry wingmen!
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Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0
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Sudden DEATH off my SEAGATE 500GB,never, had seen, that a HDD, was gone before a year, though it was used 24/7. But hé, then it's stil, too fast. Then I have warranty, too. On other rigs a have SAMSUNG SPINPOINT and Western Digital, Hitachi, never had problems with those, but aso not Seagate. What a bummer, ofcoarse the fastest host (XPx64,BOINC 6.5.4 X64 + MB-OPTI:AK_V8_SSSE3x + AP 5.0, SSE3 optized ({Don't Panic}r103). Was comming home and found it hanging in BOOT: Please Change The BOOT DEVICE and press a key...:( Try too install XP64, tomorrow though, will not get any work now. . . Have a good evenin and night, though ;)
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Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4
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Before you do anything rash, check all the cables, pull the connectors out, then put them back in. Claggy |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0
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Before you do anything rash, check all the cables, Hi, thanks for your advice, but it's reallygone. It produces 'strange sounds' and it it'sn't being detected by the B.I.O.S. And that's usually a bad sign. Also as data-drive, it's data is partly destroyed! Monday it'll get a other HDD, whithout problems, it's gone, within one year. And it's not the puter, a X9650@3.7G,{OCZREAPER 533(4x)}XP64,4GiG DDR2 410MHz FSB=1640MHz. I use it mostly for bigger programs, simulators, CAD/(CAM). VIDEO conversion and renderring and because it's fast compaired to my VISTA MultiMedia PC (Q6600,stock)
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21985 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20
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[edit] Sorry, a little after the event... [/edit] ... There are two states for HDDs: Crashed; Or about to crash. Keep regular backups and expect a failure at some time. SSD drives might be considered rather more reliable apart from the writes limit... Also, HDDs really are cheap enough now that it is silly not to go for a RAID 1 (mirror). (Then again, knock over a PC or drop it and a RAID 1 is still no good when both HDDs are smashed... :-( ... Backup to a remote device is a good idea...) Good luck, Martin (Mmmm... Now when did I do my last backup?!) See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1
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I am using an 8 GB flash cartridge in a USB port to make weekly backups of the BOINC directory and monthly backups of my home directory on a Linux box. It is also running the smartd daemon of the smartmoontools package created, among others, by dr.Bruce Allen of Einstein@home, which checks the health of my hard disks. Tullio |
Woyteck - Boinc Busters Poland Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 49 Credit: 3,203,845 RAC: 0
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There are two types of people. The ones who do backups and the ones who will. -- Get up, stand up! Don\'t give up the fight! Credits will make everybody feel high! ;-) |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0
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There are two types of people. The ones who do backups and the ones who will. Hi, I'll back-up, all programs, but it's difficult to backup WU's. They 'change' too quickly. But I did manage to get (part)of my BOINC install, back and the WU's. But can I safely put them in the new BOINC (6.4.5) setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, without them beïng trashed or denied, since I got a new load off WU's? What would be wise?
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John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0
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There are two types of people. The ones who do backups and the ones who will. You can do it before you do the new install, afterwards, it is a royal pain, and not pretty much guaranteed to not report correctly. BOINC WIKI |
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Ianab Send message Joined: 11 Jun 08 Posts: 732 Credit: 20,635,586 RAC: 5
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Seriously, dont worry about it. Your Seti work is backed up in the Seti servers. If your PC crashes and burns, never to be heard from again, the work units you had will just time out and be re-assigned to a random new PC. So dont worry about it, the Seti servers will take care of the lost units, just rebuild your PC and download some more work units and carry on. The system is designed to cater for PCs or hard disks dieing at random. Ian |
Karsten Vinding Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 239 Credit: 25,201,931 RAC: 11
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Fred: Before you do anything to your HDD, check out the news about Seagates 500GB, 1TB and 1,5TB discs dying due to a firmware error. Specific series of Seagate7200.11 disks have this error, and if you are affected its possible you could get free data-recovery done by Seagate. Check this: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/16276 Everyone else with these disks, should update their firmware to the last one supplied by Seagate, or chances are the disc will fail all of a sudden. Check Seagates page about this error to see if you are affected: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/news.jsp?DocId=207931 Luckily my only 7200.11 disc is among those not affected. |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0
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Hi, thanks, in one of my host's I have 2x Model: ST3500320AS, (Serial1: 9QM0X18K, Firmware: SD15) Sometimes it won't BOOT, no real fault, just isn't visible?!? Never seen this before, the B.I.O.S. 'answers' Press F1 to resume, then it BOOT's. Only one really crashed, was a 320GB one. And I had trouble with a DUAL-BOOT with LINUX and WIN XP, the bootloader errorred, error 17, no boot-menu shown. And is/was stuck. This was a ST3500320AS.
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Chelski Send message Joined: 3 Jan 00 Posts: 121 Credit: 8,979,050 RAC: 0
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I actually have 3x ST3500320AS. ALl are SD15 firmware versions. Brought almost together on the last days of the 5 years warranty regime One died earlier a slow and painful death when it will work only about 5 mins each time before it is not detectable by BIOS until it cools down. Took 1 week to backup my photos on it. Not to mention trashed a 7 days WU cache (big sorry to wingmens) The other two, well, had to wait until the RMA one came back (thankfully with SD1A firmware) and acted as backup while the other two take their turms getting flashed to SD1A. Going by the reports of failures of all SD15, I did not take any chances on Seagate claimed list of affected drive serials and flash both SD15s to SD1As which thankfully work rather well until now. I would recommend that any SD15 drive be backed up and flashed to SD1A using the seagate util. |
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Dave Send message Joined: 22 Feb 09 Posts: 4 Credit: 469,652 RAC: 0
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I don't know for sure if this would work for recovering data or not, but I've had success swapping pcbs of two identicle hard drives to get one good one. i.e. one with mechanical issues and one with failed pcb. I can't say for sure the data would still be salvageable because it wasn't an issue. The user's data was on the server anyway. |
kittyman ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51586 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004
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Fred:I had 3 of those that failed in short order........bought them all at once from Tiger. The first would not even load my OS.....thought that was my bad for some reason. The second lasted about 2 days....now I knew something was foul. The third worked for about a week......then I read the news. Bought a couple of Seagate server drives after that........they have been humming along nicely since then. I always did trust Seagate.....you would think that their QC processes would have caught that bug.... "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."
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Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0
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