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Message 865551 - Posted: 14 Feb 2009, 23:30:09 UTC - in response to Message 865515.  
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That looks good to me - astropulse_v5 twice is definitely the way to go.

As you hint, you can add that block into an app_info referencing r103 @ v5.00 and any flavour of MB (CUDA or AK_V8) - that will enable you to polish off any v5.00 resends that may come your way, and whatever MB takes your fancy.

That was the plan.

I just copied my r103 AP section of app_info and replaced it with the new file name, version number, and what I thought the app name would be. If I'm remembering correctly, the first reference to _v5 specifies what files will be used for that application, and the second time around is what dictates the version that will be used and the files to do it with. I believe that kind of setup allows you to use different applications for different version numbers of the same kind of work (like the 4.36->5.00 changeover, for example).

That's good then..I'll copy and paste that in and see what happens.

[edit: so far, it didn't reject the app_info editing. I did NNT, shut it down, modified app_info, copied the EXE, then started back up and there's no errors, so we'll see what happens when WUs start sending again.]
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Message 865615 - Posted: 15 Feb 2009, 2:35:00 UTC

I have been getting enough AP units to keep my two machines busy
up until yesterday.
I guess most of the abandoned or late units are already out here
in cruncher land.

I don't even mind being a third string wingman ];-)

If no more AP's overnight tonight, I'll allow MP's once again.

I'ts probably important to the project that all the AP's get done
before the new application comes out. So won't disallow any either.

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Message 866201 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 19:09:51 UTC

So with my app info listing MB, ap 500, and ap_v5 503, I haven't gotten any 503's yet, but I do still get re-issues here and there for 500.

I know they're both AP, but since they are different app_names, it should give me both of them just like 500 and MB. Is anybody else getting 503 work with the stock app? The splitters are burning through the tapes in a hurry, but I don't know what kind of ratio the 503's have compared to MB.

it's possible that my system just isn't asking for work when there are a few WUs available, and then it does ask when there are none. I haven't gotten any errors about invalid app_name or anything like that, so I don't know if the 3-way app_info actually works or not.
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Message 866217 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 19:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 866201.  

So if there are no more APs how can I get the original seti WUs to download
for me to crunch?
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Message 866220 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:03:29 UTC

make sure you have multibeam and astropulse checked in your seti preferences.


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Message 866223 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 866220.  


I deselected AP and Cuda and it just downloaded more CUDA tasks, it's not downloading or requesting normal WUs.
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Message 866227 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:12:22 UTC - in response to Message 866223.  


I deselected AP and Cuda and it just downloaded more CUDA tasks, it's not downloading or requesting normal WUs.

When you say you "deselected CUDA" you mean you deselected "Use GPU if available"?

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Message 866228 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 866227.  

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Message 866231 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 866201.  

So with my app info listing MB, ap 500, and ap_v5 503, I haven't gotten any 503's yet, but I do still get re-issues here and there for 500.

I know they're both AP, but since they are different app_names, it should give me both of them just like 500 and MB. Is anybody else getting 503 work with the stock app? The splitters are burning through the tapes in a hurry, but I don't know what kind of ratio the 503's have compared to MB.

it's possible that my system just isn't asking for work when there are a few WUs available, and then it does ask when there are none. I haven't gotten any errors about invalid app_name or anything like that, so I don't know if the 3-way app_info actually works or not.


I am having the same problems. Always downloads cuda work and occasionally AP version 5.00. With 4 AP splitters running making the new 5.03 work I just don't see where they are going.

Also having problems trying to get Boinc to fill up my cache level of 4 days. Perhaps it is a function of NOT getting the AP work, I don't know.

Wish someone from the project could shed some light on these two problems.


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Message 866232 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 20:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 866228.  

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Could it be because you are using Raistmer's App which is intended to facilitate CUDA crunching?

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Message 866247 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 21:08:57 UTC - in response to Message 866232.  

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Could it be because you are using Raistmer's App which is intended to facilitate CUDA crunching?

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So local settings override the server settings?
Is that what you are trying to tell me?

You're saying a mod is telling the server to ignore my settings
and just fetch prefered CUDA work.

Trying to understand the reasoning here it's missed me.
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Message 866248 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 21:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 866201.  
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I haven't managed to get any v5 AP WU's yet eithier, got loads of reissue v5.00's,
This is what Jason posted earlier:

Quick Question: Is the AstroPulse_v5 (5.03) application's work hooked up to the preferences 'Receive Work for AstroPulse' tickbox ? I don't seem to get any except for in blobs of cuda multibeam work when enabling 'Receive work for other applications'. [Incidentally, swamped with cuda work, and CPUs going cold]

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I think v5 AP might be linked into the 'Receive work for other applications' tickbox, and maybe not the Astropulse tickbox,
I've removed my AK_V8 entries from my app_info but haven't managed to prove anything yet as i have too much v5.00 work now!

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Edit: and Jason's managed to get v5.00 and v5 (5.03) work at the same time.
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Message 866262 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 22:28:07 UTC

Managed to snag a v5 AP WU, you need 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected if you have an app_info with astropulse and astropulse_v5 in it.

16/02/2009 22:21:29|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 872642 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: Sending work from other applications
16/02/2009 22:21:36|SETI@home|Started download of ap_16ja09ad_B4_P1_00114_20090216_06707.wu

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Message 866271 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 23:03:55 UTC
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Somehow got 2 AP v5 and 3 reissue AP 5.0 wus The AP v5 has now been crunching for 38 hrs with about 13 hrs to completion on my Q6600 at 3240Mhz. When is the optimised AP v5 app going to be released? Soon I hope.
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Message 866278 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 23:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 866247.  

Yes

Could it be because you are using Raistmer's App which is intended to facilitate CUDA crunching?

F.



So local settings override the server settings?
Is that what you are trying to tell me?

You're saying a mod is telling the server to ignore my settings
and just fetch prefered CUDA work.

Trying to understand the reasoning here it's missed me.

Not sure that I do either - I was just trying to expose all relevant info so that, maybe, someone could jump in to help explain something that seems odd to me too.

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Message 866283 - Posted: 16 Feb 2009, 23:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 866271.  

Somehow got 2 AP v5 and 3 reissue AP 5.0 wus The AP v5 has now been crunching for 38 hrs with about 13 hrs to completion on my Q6600 at 3240Mhz. When is the optimised AP v5 app going to be released? Soon I hope.


What are your settings in SETI@home preferences??

I have tried settings of Astropulse ONLY and received NOTHING except no work messages!



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Message 866313 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 0:40:04 UTC - in response to Message 866283.  
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I have tried receive "only Astropulse" and "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?" and do not really know how I got the AP v5 wus as I cannot remember what my SETI preferences were when I received them but probably with "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?".

There have been 4 AP splitters running now for some time and where are the WUs going?, Status Page is not much help now for Astropulse v5.
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Message 866384 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 4:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 866262.  

Managed to snag a v5 AP WU, you need 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected if you have an app_info with astropulse and astropulse_v5 in it.

16/02/2009 22:21:29|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 872642 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: Sending work from other applications
16/02/2009 22:21:36|SETI@home|Started download of ap_16ja09ad_B4_P1_00114_20090216_06707.wu

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Does this mean that we won't be able to do only AP v5 without getting MB also?


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Message 866405 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 6:59:52 UTC - in response to Message 866384.  

Managed to snag a v5 AP WU, you need 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected if you have an app_info with astropulse and astropulse_v5 in it.
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Claggy

Does this mean that we won't be able to do only AP v5 without getting MB also?

No, that can be done using an app_info.xml with only an astropulse_v5 application listed.
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Message 866451 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 9:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 866384.  

Managed to snag a v5 AP WU, you need 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected if you have an app_info with astropulse and astropulse_v5 in it.

16/02/2009 22:21:29|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 872642 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
16/02/2009 22:21:34|SETI@home|Message from server: Sending work from other applications
16/02/2009 22:21:36|SETI@home|Started download of ap_16ja09ad_B4_P1_00114_20090216_06707.wu

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Does this mean that we won't be able to do only AP v5 without getting MB also?



I'd temporary removed the MB section out of my app_info so i only get AP,
but there still seems to not a lot of AP work about.

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