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Message 844340 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 0:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 844329.  

The option to not use the GPU on Seti has arrived as well, in case you want to set it anyway. It's in the project preferences.

Thanks Jord! I'm sure that option wasn't there before the outrage...

All set to not use GPU now and back to installing the opt AK app.
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Message 844344 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 0:10:54 UTC - in response to Message 844340.  

I'm sure that option wasn't there before the outrage...

Spelled deliberately incorrectly? ;-)

It's cause of the outrage that the option is now there after the outage. Thank David for it, he put it in place. :-)
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Message 844347 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 0:21:31 UTC
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Also something new that appeared after the outrage - a tab under each individual computer that says "Co-Processors" if you have CUDA installed.... and it lists your Graphics Card.... now we can distinguish between "cheating with CUDA" and "honest CPU"...
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Message 844349 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 0:24:27 UTC

Having seen what a cuda can do, in the case of shorties it could be a great benefit, i could do 100 unit in windows then swith to osx.
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Message 844352 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 0:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 844349.  

Is there a problem with my bonic or cuda? My workunits get crunched in 8 min lol =)

Check it out : http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cudabj1.jpg
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Message 844368 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 1:27:02 UTC

Okay, The cuda app is clearly faster, all we need is a mac version. One thing I have noticed is compute errors. Even from the same batch, units will complete whilst others will screw up.
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Message 844369 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 1:27:02 UTC
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Okay, The cuda app is clearly faster, all we need is a mac version. One thing I have noticed is compute errors. It seems my card does not like 15no08ae units.
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Message 844395 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 2:41:10 UTC - in response to Message 844369.  

Okay, The cuda app is clearly faster, all we need is a mac version. One thing I have noticed is compute errors. It seems my card does not like 15no08ae units.

angle range is : 0.011598
angle range is : 0.012144
angle range is : 0.012143
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It's not your card, the CUDA app simply does not handle VLAR (angle range <= 0.05). Known issue since ~the second day in Beta.
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Message 844396 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 2:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 844347.  

Also something new that appeared after the outrage - a tab under each individual computer that says "Co-Processors" if you have CUDA installed.... and it lists your Graphics Card.... now we can distinguish between "cheating with CUDA" and "honest CPU"...

I saw that two or three days ago, actually.
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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
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Message 844398 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 2:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 844396.  

Also something new that appeared after the outrage - a tab under each individual computer that says "Co-Processors" if you have CUDA installed.... and it lists your Graphics Card.... now we can distinguish between "cheating with CUDA" and "honest CPU"...

I saw that two or three days ago, actually.


Really? I haven't noticed it until now...
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Message 844401 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 3:00:51 UTC

thanks joe, so anything under 0.5 and we can expect errors at the moment.
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Message 844494 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 7:45:12 UTC

So it seems that Cuda is only half-fast????

Sorry......couldn't resist.........
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 844510 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 9:28:30 UTC - in response to Message 844401.  

thanks joe, so anything under 0.5 and we can expect errors at the moment.

That was 0.05
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Message 844525 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 11:14:33 UTC - in response to Message 844510.  
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thanks joe, so anything under 0.5 and we can expect errors at the moment.

That was 0.05


LoL. Looks like I just ripped through a cachefull of these suckers at 12 seconds a piece! uploads sticking now too. I've switched to receive only AstroPulse for the time being but Boinc's not requesting any work, so now everything's gone quiet.

[...Whoops, of course I post and uploads start happening. ]
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Message 844533 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 11:58:15 UTC

Mark, it's fast, but you have to babysit the damn thing. If all the kinks get worked out it will very useful, although that is a wapping great if!
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Message 844591 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 15:48:51 UTC - in response to Message 844533.  

Mark, it's fast, but you have to babysit the damn thing. If all the kinks get worked out it will very useful, although that is a wapping great if!


I think I'll stick with my 45nm Intels..........
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 844630 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 17:25:12 UTC

Don't start VAST projects with half-vast ideas...

Saw that on a post card ...

Was especially interesting in that I worked at that time on a computer testing system used by the USN called VAST ...

One of the first ATE systems ...
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Message 844641 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 17:49:30 UTC
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Since upgrading to version 6.45 which is supposed to support CUDA I have noticed zero increase in speed, maybe even a slight degradation in speed.

I have a Quad core Phenom and a 9800GTX gfc card, boinc recognises the card as a co-processor but it is still only running 4 jobs at once.

Am I missing the point somewhere? My Seti jobs used to take about 3 hours a WU and Astropulse takes about 98 hours, now its taking 3.5hours for seti WU's????


*update*
New wu's that show as 6.05 now use cuda.


Are the 6.05 (cuda) wu's significantly smaller as it has just completed one in under 2 minutes?
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Message 844734 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 20:54:44 UTC - in response to Message 844641.  

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*update*
New wu's that show as 6.05 now use cuda.


Are the 6.05 (cuda) wu's significantly smaller as it has just completed one in under 2 minutes?

The WUs are the same, in fact if you check the workunit pages you'll see that although your host is doing them with 6.05 the other host is more likely doing them with 6.03. When run with 6.05 and CUDA, the task is often done more quickly, but you cannot just use the CPU time which shows on the workunit and Task details pages to know the actual run time. You have to look in your BOINC Manager messages and see when it started and completed. That will be corrected in a later version which will report at least an approximate overall run time for work in addition to the CPU time used.
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Message 844737 - Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 20:56:31 UTC - in response to Message 844734.  

CUDA not so safe it seems, is it fast or not - it's the second question...
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