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Message 841906 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 9:09:13 UTC

I just set up a rig for a teammate with a Q8200 and CUDA-GPU (Quadro FX570).

BOINC 6.4.5 - CUDA 2.0 driver... all good.

BOINC tells me that the is a coprocessor, but does not use it.

Just pulled seti 6.03 and that's it.


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Message 841907 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 9:10:24 UTC
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can you post the messages from boinc?

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it look like that is on the motherboard it self do you have a 2en gpu on the system?
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Message 841920 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 9:52:49 UTC - in response to Message 841907.  

The Quadro Fx - card is the only one.

BOINC messages:

19.12.2008 10:44:18||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86
19.12.2008 10:44:18||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Data directory: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Anwendungsdaten\BOINC
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Running under account xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q8200  @ 2.33GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7]
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
19.12.2008 10:44:18||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Memory: 1.97 GB physical, 2.81 GB virtual
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Disk: 153.38 GB total, 144.22 GB free
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Local time is UTC +1 hours
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Using HTTP proxy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
19.12.2008 10:44:18||CUDA devices found
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Coprocessor: Quadro FX 570 (1)
19.12.2008 10:44:18|boincsimap|URL: http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/; Computer ID: 133672; location: home; project prefs: default
19.12.2008 10:44:18|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4714682; location: home; project prefs: default
19.12.2008 10:44:18||General prefs: from boincsimap (last modified 08-May-2007 15:59:47)
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Computer location: home
19.12.2008 10:44:18||General prefs: using separate prefs for home
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1609.79MB
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1811.01MB
19.12.2008 10:44:18||Preferences limit disk usage to 3.00GB
19.12.2008 10:44:18|SETI@home|Restarting task 14no08ac.719.9249.12.8.221_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
19.12.2008 10:44:18|SETI@home|Restarting task 14no08ac.719.9249.12.8.235_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603



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Message 841928 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 10:13:06 UTC
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I got 6.03 assigned to me when I first tried to get 6.05 work from Seti@home. I had to detach and reattach and then the 6.05 tasks came. Might be what they have to do if the CUDA files aren't in the Seti folder.
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Message 841938 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 10:54:28 UTC

what you need to do is set no new task wait for all task to be done then it should get the new app
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Message 841941 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 11:20:05 UTC

I have the same problem.

BOINC messages:
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Starting BOINC client version 6.5.0 for windows_intelx86
19.12.2008 14:10:36||This a development version of BOINC and may not function properly
19.12.2008 14:10:36||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.2 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC\Data
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Running under account xxxxxxxxx
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ [x86 Family 15 Model 43 Stepping 1]
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx
19.12.2008 14:10:36||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 3.85 GB virtual
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Disk: 74.52 GB total, 13.21 GB free
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Local time is UTC +3 hours
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Not using a proxy
19.12.2008 14:10:36||CUDA device: GeForce 8600 GT
19.12.2008 14:10:36|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4716203; location: (none); project prefs: default
19.12.2008 14:10:36|SETI@home Beta Test|URL: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/; Computer ID: 37387; location: (none); project prefs: default
19.12.2008 14:10:36||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 10-Sep-2008 20:06:45)
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Host location: none
19.12.2008 14:10:36||General prefs: using your defaults
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 2047.48MB
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2047.48MB
19.12.2008 14:10:36||Preferences limit disk usage to 13.21GB
19.12.2008 14:10:36|SETI@home Beta Test|Restarting task 03no08aa.4033.12342.5.11.54_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603
19.12.2008 14:10:36|SETI@home|Restarting task 02dc08ah.6919.23794.14.8.255_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 603


All new tasks are running under 6.03.
System: X2 4200+ and 8600GT
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Message 841943 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 11:24:16 UTC - in response to Message 841938.  
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what you need to do is set no new task wait for all task to be done then it should get the new app

I don't know, that's what I did, and reset the project as well before I allowed new tasks, but that's when I got the 6.03. That's why I decided to detach.
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Message 841951 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 12:03:23 UTC - in response to Message 841943.  

what you need to do is set no new task wait for all task to be done then it should get the new app

I don't know, that's what I did, and reset the project as well before I allowed new tasks, but that's when I got the 6.03. That's why I decided to detach.


It's a new rig / fresh install - should not be any need to detach / reattach...

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Message 841952 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 12:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 841943.  

what you need to do is set no new task wait for all task to be done then it should get the new app

I don't know, that's what I did, and reset the project as well before I allowed new tasks, but that's when I got the 6.03. That's why I decided to detach.


It's a new rig / fresh install - should not be any need to detach / reattach...

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Message 841954 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 12:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 841951.  
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It's a new rig / fresh install - should not be any need to detach / reattach...


I agree, but there shouldn't have been any reason for me to have to detach after doing a reset either, but that's what I had to do in pretty much the same situation their pc is in now, is all I was saying. It certainly doesn't answer why they didn't get the 6.05 files in the first place, other than the CUDA exe and dll's probably didn't download for whatever reason.
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Message 841956 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 12:19:27 UTC - in response to Message 841954.  
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it should have downloaded the CUDA exe and dll's if it was a fresh install.


I downloaded cuda exe manually (dlls have already been in boinc folder) and created app_info.xml file with direct links to these 3 files. Then i started BOINC. It found app_info, read it without any error and tried to start cuda exe. But all tasks wrote "computation error".

P.S. When i deleted all files from project folder excepting my app_info.xml, BOINC tried to download exe but didn't find it on server.
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Message 841969 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 13:31:22 UTC

Does your app_info file have a line as.............

<version_num>603</version_num>

If it does it should be ...............

<version_num>605</version_num>

to get CUDA MB which is version 6.05
Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
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Message 841970 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 13:32:57 UTC - in response to Message 841956.  

it should have downloaded the CUDA exe and dll's if it was a fresh install.


I downloaded cuda exe manually (dlls have already been in boinc folder) and created app_info.xml file with direct links to these 3 files. Then i started BOINC. It found app_info, read it without any error and tried to start cuda exe. But all tasks wrote "computation error".

P.S. When i deleted all files from project folder excepting my app_info.xml, BOINC tried to download exe but didn't find it on server.


In this message in technical news it appears that some users won't be able to download the new application, for the time being at least, because their isp won't let them. Maybe this is your problem? I guess that it means that you may be able to download the application at a later stage, when it is provided 'directly' and not through a link pointing to an external server. Unfortunately, I have no idea how you might find out whether this really is your problem.

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Message 841971 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 13:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 841956.  
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I downloaded cuda exe manually (dlls have already been in boinc folder) and created app_info.xml file with direct links to these 3 files. Then i started BOINC. It found app_info, read it without any error and tried to start cuda exe. But all tasks wrote "computation error".

P.S. When i deleted all files from project folder excepting my app_info.xml, BOINC tried to download exe but didn't find it on server.

AFAIK you're not suppose to be using an app info file for 6.05. One for CUDA apps hasn't been created yet. But if Boinc couldn't find the exe file on the server,you may have the wrong name for it in the app info file.
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Message 841985 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 14:02:49 UTC

I connected to GPUGrid and got such error:

19.12.2008 15:45:46|GPUGRID|Message from server: No work sent
19.12.2008 15:45:46|GPUGRID|Message from server: Full-atom molecular dynamics for Cell processor is not available for your type of computer.
19.12.2008 15:45:46|GPUGRID|Message from server: Full-atom molecular dynamics on Cell processor is not available for your type of computer.
19.12.2008 15:45:46|GPUGRID|Message from server: Full-atom molecular dynamics is not available for your type of computer.


I saw posts about such errors on this mesage board. I think if there is no 6.03 app on server i will get this error for seti too.
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Message 841992 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 14:08:09 UTC - in response to Message 841971.  

I downloaded cuda exe manually (dlls have already been in boinc folder) and created app_info.xml file with direct links to these 3 files. Then i started BOINC. It found app_info, read it without any error and tried to start cuda exe. But all tasks wrote "computation error".

P.S. When i deleted all files from project folder excepting my app_info.xml, BOINC tried to download exe but didn't find it on server.

AFAIK you're not suppose to be using an app info file for 6.05. One for CUDA apps hasn't been created yet. But if Boinc couldn't find the exe file on the server,you may have the wrong name for it in the app info file.


Well I change my app info file to 605 and it is working even though I do not have a CUDA on my machine.
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Message 842014 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 14:59:25 UTC

If you have an app_info.xml file, it won't pull the CUDA client.

Also, I'm not sure that the "custom" BOINC client 6.5.x supports, or knows about CUDA. (At least one poster here showed 6.5.x in their logs)

BOINC client 6.3.x to 6.4.5 knows about CUDA, and will use the CUDA DLL to detect if there is a supported GPU present.

SO the first thing to try on a new setup is to install BOINC 6.4.5 client, then attach to SETI. That should pull the standard SET CUDA client.

Now, if you want to try to switch to BOINC 6.5, OK. If it works, great, but no guarantees.

That would be my approach.

Also note: Not all 8600/8800 video cards are supported by the SETI CUDA client. Got to the nVidia website and see if your card and GPU support at least CUDA v1.1 (NOT 1.0). And the latest nVidia drivers with CUDA 2.0 support are required as well.

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Message 842027 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 15:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 841992.  
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I downloaded cuda exe manually (dlls have already been in boinc folder) and created app_info.xml file with direct links to these 3 files. Then i started BOINC. It found app_info, read it without any error and tried to start cuda exe. But all tasks wrote "computation error".

P.S. When i deleted all files from project folder excepting my app_info.xml, BOINC tried to download exe but didn't find it on server.

AFAIK you're not suppose to be using an app info file for 6.05. One for CUDA apps hasn't been created yet. But if Boinc couldn't find the exe file on the server,you may have the wrong name for it in the app info file.


Well I change my app info file to 605 and it is working even though I do not have a CUDA on my machine.

It's a tag change, but you're still using the AK_v8 app.
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Message 842077 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 16:45:26 UTC

I finally started CUDA app on my host. I used such app_info.xml:

<app_info>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.05_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>

<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>

<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>


<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>605</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.05_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>


<app>
<name>astropulse</name>
</app>

<file_info>
<name>ap_5.00r69_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>

<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>

<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r69_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>


cudart.dll and cufft.dll are in project folder.

System monitor is now showing *__cuda.exe process.

But now i have another problem. CUDA uses only one CPU core. If another task tries to start it works only 8 s (i think, in this time cpu is preparing data for gpu) and then gets "computation error". It seems like GPU refusing second task.
I understand that when ap task will be downloaded it will use second core normally. But while it isn't happen all such tasks are corrupted.
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Message 842080 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 16:55:24 UTC - in response to Message 842077.  
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If another task tries to start it works only 8 s (i think, in this time cpu is preparing data for gpu) and then gets "computation error". It seems like GPU refusing second task.

Looking at the task details, you're running out of (video) memory. Seti CUDA needs about 200MB of VRAM, which is why the minimum requirement is 256MB on the card.

How much memory do you have on the card? How much of it is used by other applications?
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