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Message 841820 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:01:33 UTC

I would like to suggest that Eric start a sub-forum for Cuda discussion....

Number Crunching - CUDA

There are quite a lot of posts here about the subject, things are getting a bit scattered, and subjects are being duplicated in multiple threads because of it.

I am sure it is going to continue to be a hot topic for some time, so I would suggest the new forum be opened and Cuda related threads be moved to it for clarity.....
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Message 841828 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:10:22 UTC

Motion seconded
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Message 841829 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:12:01 UTC

Ditto, Mark.

Out of the 41 non-stickied threads on the main page, over 20 are dedicated to CUDA.
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Message 841841 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:24:11 UTC
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I wholeheartedly support Mark's request : > )

The current situation has become an absolute mess that will only get worse if it continues as is.
Issues & responses to Cuda/GPU application need to be better organized.
Berkeley has "encouraged" the general user base to run the GPU application,
There are a growing number of issues & unanswered questions that need to be responded to by Berkeley Admin/developers.

The current level of confusion & perceived difficulty risks alienating users and slowing adoption of the app unless better support is extended.
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Message 841851 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:49:03 UTC

There is a CUDA forum in the Q & A section.
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Message 841852 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 5:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 841851.  

There is a CUDA forum in the Q & A section.

I still believe there should be a separate forum here in the message boards....

For the benefit of both those who are interested in the subject, and those who do not wish to sort through it to discuss other Number Crunching issues...
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Message 841868 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 6:59:13 UTC

We have special forum for S@H enhanced project - http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_index.php

I don't think it is reasonable to merge both forums at this moment while S@H enhanced and S@H classic are considered different projects.
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Message 842137 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 19:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 841868.  

We have special forum for S@H enhanced project - http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_index.php

I don't think it is reasonable to merge both forums at this moment while S@H enhanced and S@H classic are considered different projects.

Just to keep things clear, the setiathome_enhanced application is what's often referred to as MB here and this project does use it. The current Windows version here is 6.05, which includes the CUDA capability. SETI Beta is a separate project where 6.05 was briefly tested before being released here, and is now testing 6.06. S@H Classic was the old non-BOINC version of S@H which closed down several years ago.

I don't have a firm opinion about whether putting CUDA discussion in its own forum would be an improvement. If everybody were always careful to stay on topic it might, but human nature makes that unlikely.
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Message 842141 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 19:27:17 UTC

are you looking for something like This?


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Message 842210 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 21:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 842141.  

are you looking for something like This?

Yes, but parallel to Number Crunching in the message boards......
If Eric does not consider it a good idea, it won't happen....

It is a Number Crunching issue.....but most of the activity is unique to Cuda processing, and I think it will stay active enough to warrant it's own forum here....

Questions are being duplicated and information about Cuda is being scattered throughout the NC.....

I think it would be a good thing for all of us to have the info all in one place....
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Message 842215 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 21:45:50 UTC

I have to agree with Mark, it would be nice for those of us who just CPU crunch. THere must have been at least 25 threads all relating to GPU crunching created in the last 24 hours. Most of which repeat much of the information. Having a separate forum would probably help both sets of crunchers.
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Message 842218 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 21:46:46 UTC - in response to Message 842210.  

are you looking for something like This?

Yes, but parallel to Number Crunching in the message boards......
If Eric does not consider it a good idea, it won't happen....

It is a Number Crunching issue.....but most of the activity is unique to Cuda processing, and I think it will stay active enough to warrant it's own forum here....

Questions are being duplicated and information about Cuda is being scattered throughout the NC.....

I think it would be a good thing for all of us to have the info all in one place....


Unfortunately, I'm not sold on the idea either.

For one, there has been a couple complaints from casual readers that there are too many areas to visit to get information; they want them consolidated into one area for simplicity.

For two, as you admitted yourself, it is still Number Crunching, and yes there is a lot of activity because it is new. Once things settle, it will be just another thread every so often just like the others.

I agree that the information is being scattered, and confusion is ensuing from having to chase down all the information, but the problem is actually compounded by the users starting new threads for old subjects instead of staying in a single thread.

I think we, as Mods, should actively start locking those threads with links to the discussions already in place so that everyone doesn't feel the need to respond in each one of them.
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Message 842243 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 22:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 842218.  
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Unfortunately, I'm not sold on the idea either.

For one, there has been a couple complaints from casual readers that there are too many areas to visit to get information; they want them consolidated into one area for simplicity.

For two, as you admitted yourself, it is still Number Crunching, and yes there is a lot of activity because it is new. Once things settle, it will be just another thread every so often just like the others.

I agree that the information is being scattered, and confusion is ensuing from having to chase down all the information, but the problem is actually compounded by the users starting new threads for old subjects instead of staying in a single thread.

I think we, as Mods, should actively start locking those threads with links to the discussions already in place so that everyone doesn't feel the need to respond in each one of them.


Well...you all handle it the way you see fit.....
You might want to direct Eric to this thread and get his opinion.

I was just trying to make a constructive suggestion. I think the topic will be a very active one for some time to come.

And if you got all the threads and posts consolidated in one place, then you could start to combine threads that were duplicates....

It would make it much easier for folks looking for Cuda information.
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Message 842247 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 22:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 842243.  

I agree with Mark, in both that I think there should be another board and that this subject is not likely to cool down for some time (just based on what I've been seeing).

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Message 842262 - Posted: 19 Dec 2008, 22:35:13 UTC

Ozz, locking or merging threads would help greatly.
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Message 842305 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 1:00:42 UTC - in response to Message 842218.  

I agree that the information is being scattered, and confusion is ensuing from having to chase down all the information, but the problem is actually compounded by the users starting new threads for old subjects instead of staying in a single thread.

*tick*
No point having yet another forum when a lot of it will end up here anyway (just like requests for help which should really be in their appropriate Operating System help forum).
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Message 842491 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 11:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 842305.  

I agree that the information is being scattered, and confusion is ensuing from having to chase down all the information, but the problem is actually compounded by the users starting new threads for old subjects instead of staying in a single thread.

*tick*
No point having yet another forum when a lot of it will end up here anyway (just like requests for help which should really be in their appropriate Operating System help forum).

What evvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvver.....
You folks have it like you want it.....

I have said my peace.
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Message 842552 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 14:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 842305.  


*tick*
No point having yet another forum when a lot of it will end up here anyway (just like requests for help which should really be in their appropriate Operating System help forum).


I think one of the problems with the help forum is that to get there, you don't
go to the "message boards", you have to go to "questions & answers" from the main page. Lots of people just go to the message boards and don't see a better place to post, IMO. I think a "message boards" category for Cuda could help move some of this out of number crunching. There will always be some who don't post in the appropriate place, though, but it could be cut down some, maybe.

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Message 842555 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 14:34:09 UTC - in response to Message 842552.  

I think one of the problems with the help forum is that to get there, you don't go to the "message boards", you have to go to "questions & answers" from the main page.

All that is assuming they go to the front page first, or have bookmarks for the forums. I'm thinking most people click on the buttons in BOINC Manager, where the Help button shows "Ask questions and report problems" when you mouse over it... simple. ;-)
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Message 842556 - Posted: 20 Dec 2008, 14:43:11 UTC - in response to Message 842555.  


All that is assuming they go to the front page first, or have bookmarks for the forums. I'm thinking most people click on the buttons in BOINC Manager, where the Help button shows "Ask questions and report problems" when you mouse over it... simple. ;-)


Could be, I've never used that method myself (as I don't even run the Boinc manager...).

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