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Message 839301 - Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 19:31:19 UTC

here is a setup that would be a grate computer for gpu crusher when it comes out also are some other setup that are good this is to help som people who are not sure what works with what but can built a computer,

all prices for from newegg.com i always use them for computer hardware

gpu high price best speed money can buy
EVGA GeForce GTX 280 01G-P3-1280-AR Video Card - Retail
price = $374.99 * 4

COOLMAX CUQ-1350B 1350W ATX 12V V2.2
price = 300 * 1

MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
price = 150 * 1

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
price = 29 * 2

Western Digital Caviar SE WD800AAJS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
price = 36 * 1

AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor Model
price =120 * 1

Sunbeam Silent Storm case
price = 50 * 1

LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
price = 18 * 1

grand total 2231.96
more setups to come i would not reamend this one it just the most gpu power you could get it will go down fast around the time the gpu client hit main stream
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Message 839321 - Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 20:20:00 UTC

nice box . I'm an AMD enthusiast and even I'll admit that even with that nice rig you'll still never catch a intel 6600 thats OCed to 3.2ghz


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Message 839373 - Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 22:38:52 UTC

Well if you want seriously expensive CUDA cruncher try on of thease :-

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_tesla_c1060_us.html

available at TigerDirect for `only $1700

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259469&CatId=4044

the nvidia site is quite interesting, but a tad costly.
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Message 839385 - Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 23:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 839301.  
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AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor Model
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I see "power usage" and a 95 watt CPU. While I too prefer AMD, there are dual core Penryns at 25w TDP.

Edit: I'd also eliminate the DVD-ROM and anything else I could find from a crunch-only system. If you're going to do something else with it, then that's different.
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Message 839467 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 4:18:26 UTC - in response to Message 839385.  


AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor Model
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I see "power usage" and a 95 watt CPU. While I too prefer AMD, there are dual core Penryns at 25w TDP.

Edit: I'd also eliminate the DVD-ROM and anything else I could find from a crunch-only system. If you're going to do something else with it, then that's different.

yes but for gpu computering you need one cpu core per gpu card
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Message 839469 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 4:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 839467.  

yes but for gpu computering you need one cpu core per gpu card

Why? Folks are reporting CPU seconds required to complete a result far below the elapsed time. Can't we expect a core to tend to the needs of more than one GPU?

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Message 839475 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 4:56:53 UTC - in response to Message 839469.  

well idk i can't test this at this time but look at how it doing thing most likely no buy unknowen that this time it can be done but will it is in q here
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Message 839477 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 5:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 839475.  

well idk i can't test this at this time but look at how it doing thing most likely no buy unknowen that this time it can be done but will it is in q here
I'm not sure I got your thought, so I'll paraphrase my understanding and echo it back for comment:

Boincmgr (or its equivalent) sees cpus, not GPUs, so will only start a number of BOINC threads equal to the number of CPUs reported? Thus if one has fewer cores than GPUs, some GPUs will necessarily remain idle?

If that is true, it seems something the GPU ap developers might want to find a workaround for--though what with the fad for multi-core CPUs, and the return of hyperthreading, this may not be a very serious limitation, except for the failure to use the resources of the CPU proper.

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Message 839478 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 5:15:05 UTC

you mostly there
boinc runs it as a coprocessor so it need a cpu even if it not fully used
because boinc is not smart to see it not being use so there no easy why to fix this with out redoing the whole boinc cpu management part of the programm
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Message 839640 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 18:16:02 UTC - in response to Message 839373.  

Well if you want seriously expensive CUDA cruncher try on of thease :-

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_tesla_c1060_us.html

available at TigerDirect for `only $1700

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259469&CatId=4044

the nvidia site is quite interesting, but a tad costly.


AMD has a processor card also.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259680&csid=_21
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Message 839645 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 18:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 839640.  

Well if you want seriously expensive CUDA cruncher try on of thease :-

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_tesla_c1060_us.html

available at TigerDirect for `only $1700

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259469&CatId=4044

the nvidia site is quite interesting, but a tad costly.


AMD has a processor card also.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4259680&csid=_21

at this time that will not work with seti because cuda is a nvidia program so at this time only there cards 8200 and up will work
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Message 839742 - Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 23:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 839478.  

you mostly there
boinc runs it as a coprocessor so it need a cpu even if it not fully used
because boinc is not smart to see it not being use so there no easy why to fix this with out redoing the whole boinc cpu management part of the programm

The BOINC developers are redoing the logic, the project now specifies what it needs as a GPU plus a fraction of a CPU. Not all logical possibilities of that have been added yet, but if a project specified 0.1 CPU needed it ought to be possible for the BOINC core client to schedule up to 10 GPU tasks with one CPU.

Part of the problem is that the BOINC developments have been aimed at GPUgrid, which specifies 0.9 CPU for a task. That has inhibited deeper thinking about the possibilities, particularly since the actual CPU used for those tasks is very small on Linux but something like 0.4 on WinXP. And nobody seems inclined to notice that 0.1 CPU for a Nehalem at 4 GHz is likely to be 0.8 CPU or more on a P4 running hyperthreading at 2.8 GHz.
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Message 839779 - Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 1:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 839742.  

also with cuda one app can use the power of one gpu and at this time it a max of 4 gpus in one computer
so the best crushing would be one core feeding all the gpus and 3 cores doing it the old way
but to do that is more about boinc then seti
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Message 839869 - Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 11:21:07 UTC

HD 4870 X2 XOC outperforms the NVIDIA...
If we have a app to use it, prerequisit BONC must handle it too.
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